I am deeply interested in what you argued with your professor about.Jay wrote:
There are always idiots, sure. I had a terrible history professor once that made provably wrong statements at least once every class. I only corrected her once as the blank look on her face told me it was a waste of my time. The rest of the semester I just muttered "wrong" under my breath. Professors are not infallible is my point. Some are really good at their jobs and some are not, just like in any other profession. To have someone with experience in a classroom is a beneficial check in my opinion, especially when the average 18-22 year old kid thinks their professor is a god of knowledge and doesn't know better.Cybargs wrote:
Not when the interjection is completely irrelevant or adds little substance to the class discussion. You just end up wasting everyone's time.Jay wrote:
The sorts of classes where someone interjecting from their own life experiences is considered a distraction tend to be the brainwashing sort. We're not talking about math or science here.
This isn't to bag out mature aged students, there's a lot whose experience do bring values.
I don't remember, it was a long time ago. I just remember it was an American history course and she credited unions with every good thing that ever happened to this country, including emancipation. Apallingly stupid woman.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am deeply interested in what you argued with your professor about.Jay wrote:
There are always idiots, sure. I had a terrible history professor once that made provably wrong statements at least once every class. I only corrected her once as the blank look on her face told me it was a waste of my time. The rest of the semester I just muttered "wrong" under my breath. Professors are not infallible is my point. Some are really good at their jobs and some are not, just like in any other profession. To have someone with experience in a classroom is a beneficial check in my opinion, especially when the average 18-22 year old kid thinks their professor is a god of knowledge and doesn't know better.Cybargs wrote:
Not when the interjection is completely irrelevant or adds little substance to the class discussion. You just end up wasting everyone's time.
This isn't to bag out mature aged students, there's a lot whose experience do bring values.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
When people teach history in a college class they don't just teach you dates and people. That's high school. They try to frame history in a certain way or connect it to wider events and movements. American history with a focus on workers and unions isn't strange. One of my RU American history classes taught early American history with a focus on women and children's experience at the time.Jay wrote:
I don't remember, it was a long time ago. I just remember it was an American history course and she credited unions with every good thing that ever happened to this country, including emancipation. Apallingly stupid woman.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am deeply interested in what you argued with your professor about.Jay wrote:
There are always idiots, sure. I had a terrible history professor once that made provably wrong statements at least once every class. I only corrected her once as the blank look on her face told me it was a waste of my time. The rest of the semester I just muttered "wrong" under my breath. Professors are not infallible is my point. Some are really good at their jobs and some are not, just like in any other profession. To have someone with experience in a classroom is a beneficial check in my opinion, especially when the average 18-22 year old kid thinks their professor is a god of knowledge and doesn't know better.
That would've been fine. Our textbook got away from the standard this president was in office from x to y and this happened format and instead focused on smallfolk, minorities and women in history. That wasn't the problem, it was just a different perspective. She was literally just awful. She would make shit up and try to pass it off as fact when the textbook in front of her contradicted her. She was old and clearly understood that the only reason she had her job was her union membership which she mentioned a hundred times.SuperJail Warden wrote:
When people teach history in a college class they don't just teach you dates and people. That's high school. They try to frame history in a certain way or connect it to wider events and movements. American history with a focus on workers and unions isn't strange. One of my RU American history classes taught early American history with a focus on women and children's experience at the time.Jay wrote:
I don't remember, it was a long time ago. I just remember it was an American history course and she credited unions with every good thing that ever happened to this country, including emancipation. Apallingly stupid woman.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I am deeply interested in what you argued with your professor about.
I also had an english professor who used to say shit like "we WASPS don't buy things, we have things" as she fiddled with a foot long antique bone shoehorn. Neat.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Serious question - win lose or draw, do the Republicans keep Paul Ryan as speaker?
I think he's one of their better performers and some of the talk to remove him because Trump threw a hissy fit seem a bit of an over reaction.
I think he's one of their better performers and some of the talk to remove him because Trump threw a hissy fit seem a bit of an over reaction.
sorry, jay, but if "we're not talking science and maths" here, how was she saying anything "probably wrong"? do you know what a proof is?Jay wrote:
There are always idiots, sure. I had a terrible history professor once that made provably wrong statements at least once every class. I only corrected her once as the blank look on her face told me it was a waste of my time. The rest of the semester I just muttered "wrong" under my breath. Professors are not infallible is my point. Some are really good at their jobs and some are not, just like in any other profession. To have someone with experience in a classroom is a beneficial check in my opinion, especially when the average 18-22 year old kid thinks their professor is a god of knowledge and doesn't know better.Cybargs wrote:
Not when the interjection is completely irrelevant or adds little substance to the class discussion. You just end up wasting everyone's time.Jay wrote:
The sorts of classes where someone interjecting from their own life experiences is considered a distraction tend to be the brainwashing sort. We're not talking about math or science here.
This isn't to bag out mature aged students, there's a lot whose experience do bring values.
Most people don't do derivatives in their job or for fun before they actually take calculus. Most people do have real life experience that would be pertinent in a sociology class.uziq wrote:
sorry, jay, but if "we're not talking science and maths" here, how was she saying anything "probably wrong"? do you know what a proof is?Jay wrote:
There are always idiots, sure. I had a terrible history professor once that made provably wrong statements at least once every class. I only corrected her once as the blank look on her face told me it was a waste of my time. The rest of the semester I just muttered "wrong" under my breath. Professors are not infallible is my point. Some are really good at their jobs and some are not, just like in any other profession. To have someone with experience in a classroom is a beneficial check in my opinion, especially when the average 18-22 year old kid thinks their professor is a god of knowledge and doesn't know better.Cybargs wrote:
Not when the interjection is completely irrelevant or adds little substance to the class discussion. You just end up wasting everyone's time.
This isn't to bag out mature aged students, there's a lot whose experience do bring values.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
They won't touch him. He's the smart kid in a group projectAussieReaper wrote:
Serious question - win lose or draw, do the Republicans keep Paul Ryan as speaker?
I think he's one of their better performers and some of the talk to remove him because Trump threw a hissy fit seem a bit of an over reaction.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
David Harsanyi wrote:
During the 1864 presidential race between Abraham Lincoln and George McClellan, The New York Times published an article that contained this sentence: "We have had many important elections, but never one so important as that now approaching." Though there may have been some truth in this claim, three years into the Civil War means the Times was probably one election too late.
In any event, every candidate or publication that's made comparable declarations since that time regarding the presidential contest being the "most important" election of their "lifetime" or their "generation" or "in history" or "ever" is completely full of it.
That goes for Gerald Ford, who in a debate against Jimmy Carter claimed that the 1976 election was "one of the most vital in the history of America." As it turns out, that was a contest between an accidental president and a highly ineffectual future president. And it wasn't even the most important election Carter would participate in.
It also goes for Walter Mondale, who in 1984 told a crowd, "This is the most important election of our lives." (Ronald Reagan lost a single state to Mondale, and the outcome was never really in doubt.) It goes for John Kerry, who in 2004 said, "My fellow Americans, this is the most important election of our lifetime." It goes for Joe Biden and Barack Obama, both of whom claimed that 2008 was "the most important election in my lifetime." It goes for Newt Gingrich, who said it in 2012. It goes also for the media that acted as if what they said were true.
It certainly goes for Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, neither of whom possess the requisite talent, vision or charisma needed to destroy this country in a mere four years. Yet on Tuesday in Dade City, Florida, Clinton finally stated what many in her party (from the president to students to 96-year-old Roger Angell) have been saying for months: "I believe this may be the most important election of our lifetimes." For her, yes. For the rest of us, not so much.
Judging from the histrionic rhetoric we hear daily, most people believe this is the most important election ever. Did you see the meltdown leftist media had after Clinton's ethical tribulations again threatened her chances at the White House? You'd think attacking Clinton were tantamount to attacking the very foundations of "democracy."
Partisans always seem to believe that everything that happens to them right now, at this very moment, is the most important thing that has ever happened or will ever happen to humanity.
Yes, government's increasing involvement in the economic and moral lives of citizens has made political stakes high. It's true that 2016 features the two suckiest candidates probably ever. It's also true that our collective vision of the American project has frayed, perhaps beyond repair. With the intense scrutiny of contemporary political coverage, more people are invested in the daily grind of elections, which intensifies the sting of losing. This anger compounds every cycle (although winning brings its own disappointment with its unfulfilled promises).
That's not to say our constitutional republic isn't slowly dying. It probably is. This condition isn't contingent on an election's outcome but on widespread problems with our institutions, politics and voters. Whatever you believe the future of governance should look like, one election is not going make or break it.
In fact, when it comes to policy, it's far more likely that very little will change over the next four years—perhaps even less than changed with the election of Obama, who had two years of one-party rule before Republicans took back Congress. Last year, Bloomberg Businessweek ran a column headlined "Why 2016 May Be the Most Important Election of Our Lifetime." Like many other similar pieces, it argues that as our politics become more polarized our elections become correspondingly more significant. But our growing divide might be exactly why 2016 turns out to be one of the least important elections in our lifetime.
If providence (or dumb luck) takes mercy on the Constitution, Washington D.C.'s gridlock—an organic reflection of the nation's disposition—will remain the status quo.
Actually, what am I talking about? That's exactly what the Constitution was built to do in a divided nation. The situation will render the next president weaker than most and somewhat contain his or her authoritarianism and poor judgment.
This kind of frustrating environment is likely to cause more recrimination and, unfortunately, abuses of power that are meant to circumvent the congestion. Still, overall, it's better than partisan unilateralism. The situation will not change until we find competent people to put into the White House or politicians with ideas that have some crossover appeal. That time is not now.
Of course, none of this is to completely diminish the importance of the presidential election. Obviously, voters are making a decision about the future of governance. Judges are at stake. Foreign policy is made. There are consequences. But if the republic can't survive a bad executive, then it's already dead.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Counterpoint - anyone who says any election is "the least important of our lifetime" is dumb
source for the bloviating above: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl … 32251.html
source for the bloviating above: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl … 32251.html
After a lifetime of reading reason.com, I have come to the conclusion that politics doesn't matter unless I am personally affected.
We should really get rid of the electoral college. I can see Trump winning the EC but losing the popular vote Tuesday. I don't see our political system being able to handle such a thing. This election is nothing like 2000. Trump is openly malevolent in a way Bush never was.
the time has finally come, what should i do guise
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
They aren't even the good type of communist. They are mostly pacifist who just want to take over your factory. There is no communist party in the U.S. who advocates for world revolution or class warfare.
to be fair there are very few communist parties in the world that do that.
i can tell you spend a lot of time baiting marxists...
i can tell you spend a lot of time baiting marxists...
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I wrote in Nixon. He's still cool.
This one?
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
naw his wife took his dog. HIS DAMN DOG.
I don't want no prez without a dog.
Checkers holla at me!
I don't want no prez without a dog.
Checkers holla at me!
Whatever you vote for, do it quick. Fuckin' took me an hour for a not very long line because all these old fuckers either couldn't figure out the machine or were truly deciding in that very moment.
naw we have 100% absentee now. They mail the ballots to everyone near the 3rd week of october and you have until election day to postmark them.
http://www.nbc26.com/news/national/elec … or-clintonA Democratic elector in Washington state said Friday he won't vote for Hillary Clinton even if she wins the popular vote in his state on Election Day, adding a degree of suspense when the Electoral College affirms the election results next month.
Robert Satiacum, a member of Washington's Puyallup Tribe, supported Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary. He said he believes Clinton is a "criminal" who doesn't care enough about American Indians and "she's done nothing but flip back and forth."
He said he has wrestled with what to do, but feels that neither Clinton nor Republican Donald Trump can lead the country.
"She will not get my vote, period," he said in a phone interview with The Associated Press.
nice job big nose bernie.
wow that's fucking retarded.SuperJail Warden wrote:
http://www.nbc26.com/news/national/elec … or-clintonA Democratic elector in Washington state said Friday he won't vote for Hillary Clinton even if she wins the popular vote in his state on Election Day, adding a degree of suspense when the Electoral College affirms the election results next month.
Robert Satiacum, a member of Washington's Puyallup Tribe, supported Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary. He said he believes Clinton is a "criminal" who doesn't care enough about American Indians and "she's done nothing but flip back and forth."
He said he has wrestled with what to do, but feels that neither Clinton nor Republican Donald Trump can lead the country.
"She will not get my vote, period," he said in a phone interview with The Associated Press.
nice job big nose bernie.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/06/politics/ … index.htmlFBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Sunday the agency hasn't changed its opinion that Hillary Clinton should not face criminal charges after a review of new emails.
Comey had dropped a bombshell 11 days from the election when he informed Congress that the FBI had discovered emails in its separate investigation of Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, that could be connected to its investigation of whether Clinton mishandled classified information by using a private email server.
The news could help Clinton put to rest a controversy that has dogged her in the 2016 race's closing days, helping Donald Trump narrow a polling gap nationally and in key battleground states.
What are you doing James Comey?