BF2S Forums Pandemic thread

dilbert: meat is murder
also dilbert: let's see, how can we off 800 million people

Dilbert_X wrote:

Except every zoonotic illness transmitted to humans has been via livestock or hunting wild animals, not one through mining.
If we could cut the population by say a very reasonable 90% that pressure would be reduced also.

except you're plain wrong, but never mind.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc … S0140-6736(12)61678-X/fulltext

[...]Anthropogenic practices, such as changes in land use and extractive industry actions, animal production systems, and widespread antimicrobial applications affect zoonotic disease transmission[...]

Transmission of pathogens into human populations from other species is a natural product of our relation with animals and the environment. The emergence of zoonoses, both recent and historical, can be considered as a logical consequence of pathogen ecology and evolution, as microbes exploit new niches and adapt to new hosts. The underlying causes that create or provide access to these new niches seem to be mediated by human action in most cases, and include changes in land use, extraction of natural resources, animal production systems, modern transportation, antimicrobial drug use, and global trade.

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Larssen wrote:

uziq wrote:

Larssen wrote:

Eating exotic scary looking delicacies is nonetheless rarely a good idea.

I am also not opposed to farming

i agree, surströmming should be banned and the entire cultures responsible for it wiped off the face of the earth.

You're supposed to fill a sink with water or a bucket and open it in there. People on the internet are doing it wrong.

That said I've never been interested in trying it myself. I've travelled a fair bit and whenever someone comes to me with a 'local delicacy' that is from an animal noone else eats I politely decline. Invariably tastes horrible or makes you sick.

i don't disagree with this. delicacies, like offal generally, are not for me, regardless of which country or culture. but yes, northern europeans probably shouldn't lecture the chinese on their 'weird' eating practices or spurious practices. didn't they basically extinguish whale and seal populations, and drag the ocean empty?

America has mostly dodged a lot of the weird cultural foods of the world. Animals guts, blood dishes, bush meat etc. Thank God we colonized this land only shortly before factory farming was invented.

It is kind of strange America perfected food science yet didn't use it in a way that made more people healthy. We should all be 6 foot 2 like Swedes in this country. From what I understand we can fortify just about anything with vitamins and minerals but we just don't because reasons. I know breakfast cereal is one thing the government forces corporations to try to make as healthy as possible.

uziq wrote:

to be honest entire aisles of processed, packaged mac'n'cheese is exotic enough to most non-americans. utterly horrendous.

I'm an American and it's gross to me. Dumpster-grade. I feel sorry for people settling on or just used to plastic mac and cheese when they could maybe bake some real macaroni instead.

Even before the pandemic, I had to be careful where I ate out. Extended family liked this one greasy spoon breakfast joint, but all I could stomach without ruining the rest of my day was the salad. Probably got my share of contaminants from that as well.

e: I guess I'm expected to feel sorry for restaurants going out of business who charge you through the nose for trashy food, pay their employees next to nothing, and expect you to chip in for that. I feel sorry I guess for people losing their jobs and that circumstances and culture that can make a restaurant almost unbearably expensive and stressful to run sometimes?

Just clean your kitchen every now and then so I can order an omelette without my insides churning for the next 10 hours.

no, that is not true. there are muscly european women. going to the gym and getting ripped is pretty much universal in the west. if a country uses instagram, there's going to be a fitness subculture.

in women's football, the team with the most investment and money will probably win. it's basically semi-professional. half the teams in the tournament are made up of hobbyists. the english women's rugby team have won the world cup several times too, and for the same reason. it's not due to some inherent genetic superiority.

european women dress a lot better. i swear that 90% of americans, even those from cities, do not know how to buy clothes that fit them. a shapeless morass seems to be the norm. european women have style.

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uziq wrote:

i swear that 90% of americans, even those from cities, do not know how to buy clothes that fit them.

I feel personally attacked since my daily clothing is track pants and work out polos


Considering I already dress like a gym rat and am skinny I need to take better care of myself.

Larssen wrote:

uh, really depends where in Europe you're looking. Spain, italy, southern france - often well dressed. I feel northern Europeans' sense of style is most of the time just shit and depressing. Eastern Europeans, style of the men is even worse, women, the closet will be full of leopard print skin tight dresses.

are you kidding? danish, norwegian and swedish girls all dress very well, from what i can see.

In the privacy of your own home where noone sees you: fine. But when you exit the house and you're not going to the gym, why ever wear sports clothing? It looks tacky. Wear jeans, chinos etc.

To me it's like this: we all like to see a woman who's well dressed and obviously takes care of herself - it's the same the other way around. Even men, they treat you better if you at least look like you got it together. A jogger just screams lazy slob to me.

is conservative dress an antonym for stylish or something? does everyone have to be in a cocktail dress?



nuup i simply cannot criticise scandinavian women.

i spent most of my 20s in a relationship with a dane. i prefer well-fitting nice clothes to the american (and latterly british) types who just wear loungewear.