and you've expressed no remorse at people in rural/red states dying and suffering due to lack of action in multiple ways (not just as a result of COVID), so how exactly is your mindset different from Trump's?
so then people are like dogs where you need to shove their nose into their mistake in order to hopefully have them understand the errors of their ways?
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n06 … short-cuts
re-read this short précis by a virologist at the start of march. where are we now in april?
re-read this short précis by a virologist at the start of march. where are we now in april?
Elder abuse.uziq wrote:
https://twitter.com/evanlweber/status/1244956386829754368?s=20
biden on television right now.
err what the fuck? jesus america is in trouble. a willingly incompetent president and a senile opposition.
Biden was trying for it in '84 and '88.
I'm not gonna shove it in anyone's face but I have no sympathy for the people affected by this who voted for Trump and doesn't want communist medicine.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
so then people are like dogs where you need to shove their nose into their mistake in order to hopefully have them understand the errors of their ways?
Large scale changes to society in what and how we expect the government's role to be, how we interact with people, political and regular economy, happen during moments like this. It can be a learning tool, something you can use as a case study for a worldview that you want, or it can be a moment of schadenfreude. If you're actually worried about the human condition, which one would you choose?
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Right wingers are going to be even more against universal healthcare after this than they were before. The more people who die from inadequate healthcare, the more against socialized healthcare they will become.
They are not going to be moved about stories of poor people dying. They are going to make arguments about how people who could have afforded COVID treatment deserved to get it instead of the poor people who should have prepared better. Jay is already half way there with the argument when he blamed the poor for getting sick in their crowded ghettos.
They are not going to be moved about stories of poor people dying. They are going to make arguments about how people who could have afforded COVID treatment deserved to get it instead of the poor people who should have prepared better. Jay is already half way there with the argument when he blamed the poor for getting sick in their crowded ghettos.
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That's how I plan to train Officer PicklesKEN-JENNINGS wrote:
so then people are like dogs where you need to shove their nose into their mistake in order to hopefully have them understand the errors of their ways?
i have already asked one of the bots here to archive all your posts with the express purpose of not allowing you to join any security force.
quite a few people in their teens/20s, with no pre-existing health conditions, have died in the UK. pretty sad.
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I got a robocall from the mayor of my city who let us know 2 people passed away in out town yesterday.
do they know if it was due to lack of resources, material or otherwise? Late diagnosis? Ineffective care?uziq wrote:
quite a few people in their teens/20s, with no pre-existing health conditions, have died in the UK. pretty sad.
I'm interested in knowing details about why otherwise healthy people are passing away. If it's as basic as "sometimes it manifests in a way that we can't treat/triage even when we throw all the resources at it, have advanced warning, proper treatment and care, etc" it should be highlighted.
It's scary to think that an otherwise healthy person could drop dead for no discernible reason as a result of being infected.
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I saw some stat that showed like 80% of COVID hospitalizations were for people who were overweight. Overweight isn't listed as a health condition though which may skew the numbers when they tally the "healthy" people.
a 13 year old kid died today in london. he was hospitalized and was receiving treatment. but when you get double-pneumonia, the only real treatment is to put you in an induced coma and try to support your vital systems. if your condition deteriorates, it deteriorates. if it gets to the point where multiple organs have failed or are failing, being in an induced coma is sort of pointless; you're going to be permanently dead without the breathing machine.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ … oronavirus
not many details forthcoming, perhaps for obvious reasons. but i've never thought about catching seasonal flu, 'damn, i better take it easy, i could be intubated and end up in a coma if i'm not careful'. a bad bout of flu normally makes me feel mildly annoyed that i am so tired/fatigued and have to cancel social events.
a famous marathon runner/athlete in italy was put in an induced coma in the early stages of the pandemic. this was back when everyone was still asking 'wtf is up with italy?' people weren't getting it. a premiere league football player was deathly ill:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 … ston-villa
people at peak fitness. who knows what factors decide how your body battles it, and how roughed up you get.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ … oronavirus
not many details forthcoming, perhaps for obvious reasons. but i've never thought about catching seasonal flu, 'damn, i better take it easy, i could be intubated and end up in a coma if i'm not careful'. a bad bout of flu normally makes me feel mildly annoyed that i am so tired/fatigued and have to cancel social events.
a famous marathon runner/athlete in italy was put in an induced coma in the early stages of the pandemic. this was back when everyone was still asking 'wtf is up with italy?' people weren't getting it. a premiere league football player was deathly ill:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 … ston-villa
people at peak fitness. who knows what factors decide how your body battles it, and how roughed up you get.
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When you were whatever age you were in 2005 when BF2 was released, would you believe someone if they told you you were going to get taken out by Bat Flu someday?
no i would not. this is pretty much the worst crisis in my lifetime. far worse than any foreign interventionist war we've been involved in.
meanwhile trump is accusing the US media of 'siding with china' and being traitors. the US now has far and away the most coronavirus cases in the world -- and the confirmed cases number is just the tip of the iceberg. he's still upset about his ratings and the negative press. hasn't got through to him at all that he is in the middle of something on the scale of WW2. sad!
you guys are literally fucked at this point. this is the sort of crisis where leaders are meant to step up and lead.
meanwhile trump is accusing the US media of 'siding with china' and being traitors. the US now has far and away the most coronavirus cases in the world -- and the confirmed cases number is just the tip of the iceberg. he's still upset about his ratings and the negative press. hasn't got through to him at all that he is in the middle of something on the scale of WW2. sad!
you guys are literally fucked at this point. this is the sort of crisis where leaders are meant to step up and lead.
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Thats the only way a lot of people will learn, dogs you can at least talk to.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
so then people are like dogs where you need to shove their nose into their mistake in order to hopefully have them understand the errors of their ways?
Fuck Israel
After SARS, yes absolutely, surprised it took this long TBH having opened up travel with a country whose citizens believe the more exotic and cruelly treated an animal is the better it tastes.SuperJail Warden wrote:
When you were whatever age you were in 2005 when BF2 was released, would you believe someone if they told you you were going to get taken out by Bat Flu someday?
Fuck Israel
The greatest democracy in the world elected an unhinged child, bad luck for them I guess.uziq wrote:
no i would not. this is pretty much the worst crisis in my lifetime. far worse than any foreign interventionist war we've been involved in.
meanwhile trump is accusing the US media of 'siding with china' and being traitors. the US now has far and away the most coronavirus cases in the world -- and the confirmed cases number is just the tip of the iceberg. he's still upset about his ratings and the negative press. hasn't got through to him at all that he is in the middle of something on the scale of WW2. sad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont … e=emb_logo
you guys are literally fucked at this point. this is the sort of crisis where leaders are meant to step up and lead.
Fuck Israel
"It amazes me when I read … I don't even read it."
e: To a Trump supporter, this is just him being a PR genius. The perpetual mastermind thinking many, many moves ahead.
e: To a Trump supporter, this is just him being a PR genius. The perpetual mastermind thinking many, many moves ahead.
MERS is far more deadly than SARS and coronavirus. it comes from human contact with dromedaries. stop being so tedious.Dilbert_X wrote:
After SARS, yes absolutely, surprised it took this long TBH having opened up travel with a country whose citizens believe the more exotic and cruelly treated an animal is the better it tastes.SuperJail Warden wrote:
When you were whatever age you were in 2005 when BF2 was released, would you believe someone if they told you you were going to get taken out by Bat Flu someday?
We should be shunning people who still think bats make a great snack.The origins of the virus are not fully understood but, according to the analysis of different virus genomes, it is believed that it may have originated in bats and was transmitted to camels sometime in the distant past.
Correction, we should have, our mistake I guess.
Hey, just think where we'd be if MERS - mortality rate of 35% - had the transmissability of Wuhan Bat Flu.
We could have had this just as easily.
Having flooded the world with this virus they're now flooding the world with masks and test kits which don't work.
Are you sure its not deliberate?
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One thing people probably don't know is that besides offshoring manufacturing we've also offshored standards testing.
That Chinese product with a British Standards or UL or CE mark? Made in China and tested in China.
With luck a lot of this is going to be reversed.
That Chinese product with a British Standards or UL or CE mark? Made in China and tested in China.
With luck a lot of this is going to be reversed.
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china has despatched expert medical teams, who by all accounts are doing a better job than badly under-resourced medical workers the US and UK, to help fight the virus. that is, medical workers who have just spent months on the frontline beating it in their own country, are now turning up in london to put their lives at risk again, in order to lend their expertise. china's hygiene practices in their hospitals have been second to none -- western facilities are lagging far behind, and (untested!) staff are often going form ward to ward, vectors of infection themselves (that is, if they're not getting sick and dying).
but yes, keep saying that they're spreading faulty masks on purpose. you really are a cynical, miserable little fucker.
people snacking on bats isn't what caused it to spread from bats to camels, you dipshit. the point is that humans exist in close contact with animals, and it isn't always about exotic foods or diets you turn your nose up at. camels are used in the middle-east for, er transport, as well as for eating and fur/leather/etc. human beings have had to interact with animals for most of our species' history. you're living in a little racist pipedream.
but yes, keep saying that they're spreading faulty masks on purpose. you really are a cynical, miserable little fucker.
people snacking on bats isn't what caused it to spread from bats to camels, you dipshit. the point is that humans exist in close contact with animals, and it isn't always about exotic foods or diets you turn your nose up at. camels are used in the middle-east for, er transport, as well as for eating and fur/leather/etc. human beings have had to interact with animals for most of our species' history. you're living in a little racist pipedream.