BF2S Forums Windows 11 discussion

Yeah, I am a little annoyed that I can't install it on my ThinkPad T530 without jumping through some hoops to trick it into installing and then still being screwed out of Windows updates even after the fact.  Microsoft seems deadset on this TPM 2.0/8th gen Intel or later requirement at this point though.

Graphics cards are starting to come down now finally.  I was looking at RTX 2060s on Amazon yesterday and they're down to $450ish now, which is right about where they were shortly after all the panic buying shit first started a couple years ago.

_j5689_ wrote:

Yeah, I am a little annoyed that I can't install it on my ThinkPad T530 without jumping through some hoops to trick it into installing and then still being screwed out of Windows updates even after the fact.  Microsoft seems deadset on this TPM 2.0/8th gen Intel or later requirement at this point though.

Graphics cards are starting to come down now finally.  I was looking at RTX 2060s on Amazon yesterday and they're down to $450ish now, which is right about where they were shortly after all the panic buying shit first started a couple years ago.

Just get a 3080. It is more than twice as powerful as the 2060 and finally under $1000.

I was just looking at 2060s for my low-priority ITX build that I made with my old 4770K.  That build is meant to be a low-cost, dedicated 1080p TV gaming "console" + a nice relatively small/mobile roomscale VR box for setting up in the living room, my old 1070 is in there now(probably should've sold it and waited for normal prices on newer lower end cards), but the 2060 is the card I was eyeing before everything went crazy.  It's not a huge priority at all though, I'd wait for 2060s to come back down to MSRP or something close to it before I ever thought about pulling the trigger, or more likely just wait for the next-gen lower end card that goes for $250-$300 if that's even still possible.

My main upgrade consideration for the last two years has been my main rig's GPU, currently a 2070 non-Super paired up to an i9-9900K, and I was looking at getting a 3070(preferably a Strix) before the Great Scalpocalypse.  I was hoping to get one off of Amazon, because I've saved up $350 so far in rewards over the last few years specifically to put towards a new GPU, and I also always try never to spend more than $500 on a GPU.  The 3080s there are hovering around the $1,000 mark right now, but the 3070s are well within my range after applying the rewards and there are even some 3070 Tis that would be as well.  Like Newbie said, I think I might ultimately just wait and get a 4-series, since it looks to be right around the corner(I'm guessing July-August like nVidia usually does it).  It can only help with the pricing on the 3000-series too assuming that shit doesn't go crazy like last time.

Luckily I only have a Rift S, so I have the benefit of not needing to drive a higher resolution(2880 x 1600 vs 2560 x 1440), nor higher framerates(144hz vs 80hz) like what the Valve Index is capable of.  Even still, I've also considered maybe just getting some of those fiberoptic DisplayPort and USB extension cables for really long runs, and just wiring the headset out to the living room from my main PC on the occasion that I want to play something in VR.  I'll have to do some more research into whether or not the fiberoptic conversion circuitry in those cables adds enough latency to become a problem for VR.  Right now I haven't touched the Rift S in years because it expects you to use roomscale every time, and if it doesn't recognize the room you're in because your chair isn't in the exact same place or because you moved some shit on your floor, then it makes you set up Guardian(the boundary system) again, and I can't be bothered to do that every time I want to play a VR game in my messy room.

Yeah, I can't say I blame you for wanting to go all-out for your VR headset.  My first VR headset was the original Rift CV1, I had one of the first pre-orders for it and I considered it to be a more premium product compared to the HTC Vive that was directly competing against it, even before the Touch controllers were released.  Unfortunately since then, Palmer Luckey got caught funding politically conservative causes and was ousted by the company for the PR shitstorm it caused, and so was no longer in the driver seat for product development, plus Facebook went full Facebook soon after they acquired Oculus by cheapening the product over multiple generations and forcing you to have a regularly used Facebook page that's in good standing in order to maintain access to the Rift hardware & games that you already paid for.  So I'll probably jump ship for whatever the next iteration of the Index is if I can afford it.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2022-04-27 18:49:32)

I'm going to be annoyed if windows starts bugging me to install win 11.
Win 10 was supposed to solve all the terrible problems all the previous win versions had, now win 10 has such terrible problems it needs to be replaced not just superseded?

I have Win11.

Truly my only gripes are that you can't customize the start menu, you can only pin your most-used apps/programs to the pinned page (you can't even sort them). And that you can't right-click the taskbar and get to any quick settings - particularly the task manager. Back to Ctrl + Alt + Del for that.

Other than that, it's basically just win10 with a new skin. And since I don't bother customizing much about my OS installs (I'll have to rebuild my desktop eventually anyway or there'll just be another iteration of windows out every few years), it doesn't look much different.

Task Manager, once inside, is still the exact same as it's been since the new version in Win10.

I agree, they could bulk it up a bit to create some customization but it's fine. Just getting to it is now back to pressing 3 buttons on the keyboard instead of 1 right-click and 1 left-click. Maybe there's a 3rd party program out there for an advanced task manager?

That process so often hung by hung processes that hang much of your computer's functionality

wut

That is a pretty awesome idea, and that's exactly why it will never happen in Windows.  Maybe we'll start getting advertisement banners soon when we Ctrl+Alt+Del though.

Surprised MS hasn't sold space on the BSOD TBH

Despite how annoying Windows has been since 7, they tend to BSoD a lot less these days. That could also be a result of unrelated advances in hardware reliability. Everything has gotten more sturdy and less fragile than I remember it being.

You're not wrong about the hardware in some cases. Better PSUs by far. Our days of worrying about the CPU's pins bending or snapping off are over. Plug and play has reached the point where we take it for granted. I get annoyed if a piece of hardware I plug in isn't immediately recognized and activated. Years back, I had to mess about with IRQs and COMs and whatever. I remember having a separate autoexec/config to boot with just to run DOS Doom.

Manufacturing processes for mid grade hardware have definitely improved. I don't see nearly as much stuff like sloppy soldering work and bendy rows of cheap capacitors as I used to.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2022-05-06 14:26:24)