BF2S Forums Microsoft vs. Mac ( intosh )

dlbenson1979 wrote:

Mac only runs well for making your home movies and crap like that. If you want a machine to run for gaming or for business, you need PC's.

Movies, DTP, Photography basicly the whole graphics industry range. From advertisment to tv-shows.

Gaming? There are enough games, go look for them. And you know, all available games are tested with all systems and are Apple approved. Also every available software package is listed on the Apple website.

And with the release of a new package that can convert w32 bit to Apple games. More and more games wil be heading towards the OS X platform.

dlbenson1979 wrote:

I feel I can make this statement because I have had the opportunity to be in a business that has used both platforms on both the client and the server level.  I have had to sit and troubleshoot and do tech support on both platforms. PC wins again.

Server - Nothing beats the ease of OS X Tiger Server. Or the fact that Apple can cramp a 2U server rack into a 1U, with better performance per watt and less heat. And honestly. Why would you want to look at that windows 98 interface, when you can have Aqua, without loss of performance. Thank CoreImage for that.

Tech support on a mac? I worked for a graphical company, partly as IT, I have never been as bored as I was in those days. They only problems I encounterd was software, which had nothing to do with the Mac itself.

You know, it takes 15 minutes to re-instale OS X 10.3/4, 10 if I don't install languages and printer library's, 30 - 45 minutes including updating. You need more than 45 minutes to get Windows Server 2003 /SMB on the damn rack/pc, and then you still have to update.

dlbenson1979 wrote:

And a one button mouse does make a difference, because not everyone is a keyboard nazi (I am though) and the settings system for MAC's is something of another nature.

Settings? All programs and plug-ins have their settings on the OS setting window. Try that for Windows.
One button mouse? In what cave have you been hiding the last couple years. Mighty Mouse ring a bell?

DonFck wrote:

Right click.

Can't do that with a mac, can you?

Yes you can. Either Command+Click (Old Mouse) or just right click (Mighty Mouse).

http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/

wait. dont macs use intel equipments now? arent all the stuff in a mac the same stuff on a pc?

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

wait. dont macs use intel equipments now? arent all the stuff in a mac the same stuff on a pc?

Mac's where the first to be equipped with Intel's new processers indeed. The Intel Core Duo.
And no, the stuff is not the same. Only certain manufacturers get to produce hardware for the Mac.
Which isn't so bad, because I had countless shit with non-working RAM, HD's, Videocards.

DonFck wrote:

Wow! The Mighty Mouse introduces Right clicking to Mac!!

What an enormous leap in modern day technology!

http://www.amigau.com/aig/items/amigamouse1.jpg

That is an Amiga mouse retard < Immature word-useage, my sincere apologies Don!.

Last edited by Bernadictus (2006-09-06 04:21:58)

Ok, I was out of line calling you a retard.

But the one mouse button thing is dragging up the past with no use.
Im not digging up Windows 95 or 98. We are talking the current times here. So basicly OSX vs XP. Mac vs PC.

Bernadictus wrote:

Server - Nothing beats the ease of OS X Tiger Server. Or the fact that Apple can cramp a 2U server rack into a 1U, with better performance per watt and less heat. And honestly. Why would you want to look at that windows 98 interface, when you can have Aqua, without loss of performance. Thank CoreImage for that.

Which really sums up the Mac user perspective entirely.

If you'll refer to the recent Anandtech articles about OSX Server performance, you'll find that Apple is severly behind...

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436


But hey, what's performance when you get to stare at a pretty GUI for the 5 minutes or so of configuration necessary with a server?


I'll probably get tired of writing this but here we go again - There's no right or wrong choice here.  Getting worked up about it is not worth the trouble.  If you honestly think that whether I buy a PC or a Mac is an important decision in life beyond that which I enjoy using then you've got more wrong with you than a person I'd ever want to meet.

Computers are tools.  They exist to do what we want.  I enjoy using Photoshop/ Dreamweaver/ Indesign etc on a PC more than a Mac for personal reasons, and nothing will change that.  I enjoy being able to tinker with the insides of my computer for personal reasons.  I enjoy being able to buy any random piece of hardware to fit my budget and know that somewhere there are drivers.  I enjoy being able to pickup a game and know it will run.  These are facts, and they're the facts that contribute to me using Windows.  But that doesn't make Windows the better choice for the rest of you because you all have different needs.

Urgh, someone close this thread.


ps To the guy above harping on about Expose.  You're right, we don't have that on a PC.  What we do have is a taskbar where you click on the program you want and "BOOM" it appears without any mashing of keyboards and fancy effects.  Wow, I wish I'd thought of that

Last edited by chuckle_hound (2006-09-06 04:37:01)

chuckle_hound wrote:

ps To the guy above harping on about Expose.  You're right, we don't have that on a PC.  What we do have is a taskbar where you click on the program you want and "BOOM" it appears without any mashing of keyboards and fancy effects.  Wow, I wish I'd thought of that

i happen to also own an XP..

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Viper007Bond wrote:

SgtSmokem wrote:

Anyone in Microsoft land ever run Mac OS on your PC?  Didnt think so.

Why would you even want to?

And that's not the fault of the PC, that's the fault of the OS programmers who made it Mac only.

Actually I have OS x 10.4.6 running on dell deminsion 8300. because macs now use Intel based hardware it is possible for properly equipped machines to run OS x. check out sites like www.osx86project.org for more info. needless to say this argument could go on forever because there are people who talk shit about macs but have never spent more than a few mins playing with with them in a store. ignorance is not an excuse to dismiss something. i have spent a lot  of time in both environments. while i do use windows to game with there are certain features i can not do with out in osx. i think it is the little touches which set a mac apart, like lighted keyboards, rss visualizer built in, dock, etc. sorry this is rushed i will edit it later.

Can you still play BF2?

chuckle_hound wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

Server - Nothing beats the ease of OS X Tiger Server. Or the fact that Apple can cramp a 2U server rack into a 1U, with better performance per watt and less heat. And honestly. Why would you want to look at that windows 98 interface, when you can have Aqua, without loss of performance. Thank CoreImage for that.

Which really sums up the Mac user perspective entirely.

If you'll refer to the recent Anandtech articles about OSX Server performance, you'll find that Apple is severly behind...

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2436


But hey, what's performance when you get to stare at a pretty GUI for the 5 minutes or so of configuration necessary with a server?


I'll probably get tired of writing this but here we go again - There's no right or wrong choice here.  Getting worked up about it is not worth the trouble.  If you honestly think that whether I buy a PC or a Mac is an important decision in life beyond that which I enjoy using then you've got more wrong with you than a person I'd ever want to meet.

Computers are tools.  They exist to do what we want.  I enjoy using Photoshop/ Dreamweaver/ Indesign etc on a PC more than a Mac for personal reasons, and nothing will change that.  I enjoy being able to tinker with the insides of my computer for personal reasons.  I enjoy being able to buy any random piece of hardware to fit my budget and know that somewhere there are drivers.  I enjoy being able to pickup a game and know it will run.  These are facts, and they're the facts that contribute to me using Windows.  But that doesn't make Windows the better choice for the rest of you because you all have different needs.

Urgh, someone close this thread.


ps To the guy above harping on about Expose.  You're right, we don't have that on a PC.  What we do have is a taskbar where you click on the program you want and "BOOM" it appears without any mashing of keyboards and fancy effects.  Wow, I wish I'd thought of that

maybe i am missing something. how old is that article? the powermacs were fazed out earlier this year. the article you posted is over a yr old. don't start talking shit if the info you have is completely outdated. also the xserve is completely different from the g5TOWER. i put the TOWER in caps because apparently you cannot tell the difference between a rack mounted server and a tower. anyways, this again proves my point that people continue to blindly hate macs even though they are completely ignorant about them. please next time try to find a more current article with which to base your arguements. also make sure that when you bash a machine you have the right fucking model.

Here is the g5 xserve(i could not find a review on the latest version with intel proccessors -
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1630320,00.asp

Here is the Xeon based macpro which is the successor to the g5 tower from the link above -
http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816

Last edited by Marlboroman82 (2006-09-06 07:49:27)

I'm using windows now and wonder how MAC works, is there a way without having to buy one?
Like a test/example program and I dont mean to replace or give my coimputer a format and new OS andso but just to get the feeling of it.

Prices would be nice too. Like if i got 2000 dollar to spend what do I get in MAC and what in windows... you know what I mean...

Alrighty. Sorry to resurrect a preety much dead thread - but at least i used the search!

Anyway, i am a PC user, looking to buy a MacBook Pro. My only hesitations are the following:

- How does Mac compare to PC when looking at number crunching, word processing, spreadsheet etc. And im not talking about going out and buying the Mac version of office - im talking out of the box use. I intend on using macbook for university work, orientated around business and finance, and i need to know if it can do the job
- I love the start bar. Its so easy to navigate the system using it, along with using 'my computer'. How does a mac compare against these? I have had a fair bit of mac experience - but that was 8 years ago in primary school. and all i remember was not being able to really use the system. It seemed complicated, especially when navigating. I know A LOT has changed since then, but that doubt about using it is still there.

So can someone please help me sort this out?

Im guessing open office is office but for the Mac?

Hopefully it wan't posted before...

In Australia, there are a series of commercials running about MAC vs. PC. I'll post what I can find.


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Iron_Sentinel wrote:

- I love the start bar. Its so easy to navigate the system using it, along with using 'my computer'. How does a mac compare against these? I have had a fair bit of mac experience - but that was 8 years ago in primary school. and all i remember was not being able to really use the system. It seemed complicated, especially when navigating. I know A LOT has changed since then, but that doubt about using it is still there.

So can someone please help me sort this out?

Its not complicated at all, and I miss the mac features when i use my XP machine at home.

Been a Windows user since Win 3.11 but made the switch to OS X 2 years ago. There is hardly a learning curve to worry about, as it is almost pretty much out of the box. For hardcore Alt-Tab users, Mac retained that in Command-Tab. But who needs that when you can hit F9 or F10 to select (not switch) the right window.

And Mac OS X Leopard is just round the corner..