Well I agree with the shotgun thing, and even it the game I shoot first then run/ go prone to dodge fire because the one who shoots first has the upper hand plus the shotgun I do not think gains anything from going prone. As for the bunnies and spammers, if the game lets you do it there will be people taking advantage of it, so I say bring it, its my personal goal to be able to kill hopper as effectively as anyone else its just about timing your shots, and sometimes you will get killed more often buy hoppers, but big whoop deal and go shoot some things and make yourself feel better.[mcp]eltorrente wrote:
Your first reaction with a shotgun should be to shoot the guy - NOT to dive on the ground and shoot from the ground. The game allowed this behavior, but think about it - who in real life would dive on the ground before clamoring with their heavy shotgun to fire at their close range opponent?!?!? It wouldn't happen and makes the game often times look silly. Just crouch and shoot or stand and shoot. If you dive - like in real life, it's because you are trying to not get shot and you are diving for cover or preparing to pop off some long range shots.MadKatter wrote:
I only agree with you somewhat. Pronespamming is stupid, and litterally requires no skill (usually macro'd.)
Though when you're running around with a pump shotty, and the first shot doesnt kill the enemy, there is no way in hell im going to stay on the ground. Whatever keeps me alive is what I'm doing. I don't care if I look like a bunny or not. It's using the specific weapon to your advantage.
Those with rifles, carbines, or basically anything with decent power that isn't a shotgun has no excuse. Unless reloading. If you cannot kill a bunnyhopper during the time it takes for them to reload their rifle... then you deserve to eat the dirt for 15 seconds.
Diving is perfectly fine... you can do it in real life. You can also bunnyhop in real life. What you can't do, is pronespam. (Unless you're uberbreakdancer type)
MK
Diving is fine in real life - to save your butt and get behind cover! Bunny Hopping in a real life? What are you talking about? O.K., maybe on a trampoline, or maybe kids do at recess... but how many times can you hop in the air while holding a gun, ammo, and all your equipment (combat boots, helmet, flak jacket, etc) all while getting shot at NO - IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. NO SOLDIERS BUNNY HOP. THERE SHOULD BE NO BUNNY HOPPING ALLOWED. PERIOD.
Your first paragraph is completeley about coding- there is nothing to do about that. If something works, why not use it? BF2 is not real life. I'm not saying BF2 shouldnt have a delay (They "fixed" it in 2142), but it doesn't. That's the way it is.[mcp]eltorrente wrote:
Yes - you CAN dive to the ground and shoot people. But can you do it instantly and in one motion?!?! Of course not, so why complain about not being able to do it? If you dive to the ground why is it unreasonable to have to take a second or two to orient your gun properly? Dive behind cover or dive and take long distance shots - that isn't unreasonable.MadKatter wrote:
Shooting the guy is my first reaction. Except... when he's still alive (for whatever reason), I need another shell to come out of my shotgun to save my butt. Never go prone with a shotgun, that's just death. The fact that you can jump that high in the game is the way bf2 is programmed. It's not an exploit like pronespamming. Adapt and move on.[mcp]eltorrente wrote:
Your first reaction with a shotgun should be to shoot the guy - NOT to dive on the ground and shoot from the ground. The game allowed this behavior, but think about it - who in reallife would dive on the ground before clamoring with their heavy shotgun to fire at their close range opponent?!?!? It wouldn't happen and makes the game often times look silly. Just crouch and shoot or stand and shoot. If you dive - like in real life, it's because you are trying to not get shot and you are diving for cover or preparing to pop off some long range shots.
Diving is fine in real life - to save your butt and get behind cover! Bunny Hopping in a real life? What are you talking about? O.K., maybe on a trampoline, or maybe kids do at recess... but how many times can you hop in the air while holding a gun, ammo, and all your equipment (combat boots, helmet, flak jacket, etc) all while getting shot at NO - IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. NO SOLDIERS BUNNY HOP. THERE SHOULD BE NO BUNNY HOPPING ALLOWED. PERIOD.
Yes... behind cover. You can also dive to the ground in real life and shoot people. Can you not?
As for bunnyhopping... I said you can, not you do. The fact is- there is no jumping stamina in bf2. You can jump as much as you want. This isn't real life. Don't blame players like me that use game mechanics to their advantage. Blame EA for not coding jump stamina. Stop complaining, learn how to aim. Once they land, put a few bullets in their chest. Done.
@ryan_14. This isn't real life. But... in real life you will use all necessary means to escape gunfire. In BF2, bunnyhopping is an effective way. End of story.
@stryyker. I don't know, I doubt that. I don't see pronespammers very often... but every one I have encountered used a macro. I know that for sure because I made a point to ask each and every one that I came across.
You say "Stop Complaining, learn how to aim" at bunny hoppers. Actually I DID learn how to adapt and to aim and hit the pesky bunny hoppers. I just think they look ridiculous and make the game look silly sometimes. I kill them just fine, thanks. My whole point with this thread was that not only does it look silly to do these tactics, but the lamers who do them need to LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME without relying on them.
Who are the ones with no skill, now that they are curbing some of this silly behavior?
so you can't avoid being hit any other way? look, i don't really have a problem with bunny hopping and such, until someon say it takes "skill". Please, don't give me that shit, especially sice you just said "all you need is 2 keys" and that's it right there, no skill. now i'm not saying that you said it takes "skill" because you didn't, but all those that do are full of crapTangsterChinkz wrote:
Life story people, booooorrrrrring
The reason people and i prone spam, is like my nigga strykker said.....to avoid being killed/hit....
AND i did think at first u need marco's to do it, BUT U DONT, all u need is 2 keys, prone and crouch then your away...
what??? wtf are u talking about, in one sentence u say this....one sentence u say that, make it clear what your trying to say......genius_man16 wrote:
so you can't avoid being hit any other way? look, i don't really have a problem with bunny hopping and such, until someon say it takes "skill". Please, don't give me that shit, especially sice you just said "all you need is 2 keys" and that's it right there, no skill. now i'm not saying that you said it takes "skill" because you didn't, but all those that do are full of crapTangsterChinkz wrote:
Life story people, booooorrrrrring
The reason people and i prone spam, is like my nigga strykker said.....to avoid being killed/hit....
AND i did think at first u need marco's to do it, BUT U DONT, all u need is 2 keys, prone and crouch then your away...
it takes more skill to avoid being hit in other ways than that
stryyker, get on xfire...stryyker wrote:
mae gusta dolphin mucho grande!
no xfire on laptop, no BF on laptopTangsterChinkz wrote:
stryyker, get on xfire...stryyker wrote:
mae gusta dolphin mucho grande!
damn okstryyker wrote:
no xfire on laptop, no BF on laptopTangsterChinkz wrote:
stryyker, get on xfire...stryyker wrote:
mae gusta dolphin mucho grande!
i was thinking the same...[mcp]eltorrente wrote:
You should have payed attention in English class 3 times longer instead.(US)THE.DEVILS.HITMAN wrote:
I say 100% fuck you because I own when it comes to that I last 3 times longer it have increased my kd ratio to 1.2 to 1.5 and I trown noobs like you instead of bitching about it why dont you become one.
95% of the time, there should be no reason why your M11-87 doesnt put its buckshot through your opponents face on the first shot. If per chance, your opponent is a laggy bastard, keep moving forward and crouch. Should give you long enough to put a chest shot in.MadKatter wrote:
I only agree with you somewhat. Pronespamming is stupid, and litterally requires no skill (usually macro'd.)
Though when you're running around with a pump shotty, and the first shot doesnt kill the enemy, there is no way in hell im going to stay on the ground. Whatever keeps me alive is what I'm doing. I don't care if I look like a bunny or not. It's using the specific weapon to your advantage.
Those with rifles, carbines, or basically anything with decent power that isn't a shotgun has no excuse. Unless reloading. If you cannot kill a bunnyhopper during the time it takes for them to reload their rifle... then you deserve to eat the dirt for 15 seconds.
Diving is perfectly fine... you can do it in real life. You can also bunnyhop in real life. What you can't do, is pronespam. (Unless you're uberbreakdancer type)
MK
If you need to prone spam to increase your ratio, maybe you should go play that thing called 'Pac-Man'.(US)THE.DEVILS.HITMAN wrote:
I say 100% fuck you because I own when it comes to that I last 3 times longer it have increased my kd ratio to 1.2 to 1.5 and I trown noobs like you instead of bitching about it why dont you become one.
If you can't shoot prone-spammers maybe you should go back to CS.Darky wrote:
If you need to prone spam to increase your ratio, maybe you should go play that thing called 'Pac-Man'.(US)THE.DEVILS.HITMAN wrote:
I say 100% fuck you because I own when it comes to that I last 3 times longer it have increased my kd ratio to 1.2 to 1.5 and I trown noobs like you instead of bitching about it why dont you become one.
Yeah, lets see you get hit with a 5.56mm or 7.56mm in mid air and see if you actually land where you jumped from. You won't!polarbearz wrote:
If you can't shoot prone-spammers maybe you should go back to CS.Darky wrote:
If you need to prone spam to increase your ratio, maybe you should go play that thing called 'Pac-Man'.(US)THE.DEVILS.HITMAN wrote:
I say 100% fuck you because I own when it comes to that I last 3 times longer it have increased my kd ratio to 1.2 to 1.5 and I trown noobs like you instead of bitching about it why dont you become one.
its battlefield 2: modern combat. the game tries to be as realistic as possible while making it still fun to play. Its not fucking fun to try to shoot bitches that do that shit. jumping into prone is fine, but laying down and jumping straight up is simply dumb. Does not being able to do that shit really ruin ur gameplay? If thats the only way u can stay alive, fucking die u noob. Otherwise be like a normal person and get that headshot and keep on moving, dont dive around like a retard on crack riding a merry-go-roundPspRpg-7 wrote:
I'll say it again. Since when was Bf2 a combat simulator?[mcp]eltorrente wrote:
Your first reaction with a shotgun should be to shoot the guy - NOT to dive on the ground and shoot from the ground. The game allowed this behavior, but think about it - who in reallife would dive on the ground before clamoring with their heavy shotgun to fire at their close range opponent?!?!? It wouldn't happen and makes the game often times look silly. Just crouch and shoot or stand and shoot. If you dive - like in real life, it's because you are trying to not get shot and you are diving for cover or preparing to pop off some long range shots.MadKatter wrote:
I only agree with you somewhat. Pronespamming is stupid, and litterally requires no skill (usually macro'd.)
Though when you're running around with a pump shotty, and the first shot doesnt kill the enemy, there is no way in hell im going to stay on the ground. Whatever keeps me alive is what I'm doing. I don't care if I look like a bunny or not. It's using the specific weapon to your advantage.
Those with rifles, carbines, or basically anything with decent power that isn't a shotgun has no excuse. Unless reloading. If you cannot kill a bunnyhopper during the time it takes for them to reload their rifle... then you deserve to eat the dirt for 15 seconds.
Diving is perfectly fine... you can do it in real life. You can also bunnyhop in real life. What you can't do, is pronespam. (Unless you're uberbreakdancer type)
MK
Diving is fine in real life - to save your butt and get behind cover! Bunny Hopping in a real life? What are you talking about? O.K., maybe on a trampoline, or maybe kids do at recess... but how many times can you hop in the air while holding a gun, ammo, and all your equipment (combat boots, helmet, flak jacket, etc) all while getting shot at NO - IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. NO SOLDIERS BUNNY HOP. THERE SHOULD BE NO BUNNY HOPPING ALLOWED. PERIOD.
But as a colonel i guess you have some skill... shoot them first rather than dancing?TangsterChinkz wrote:
Life story people, booooorrrrrring
The reason people and i prone spam, is like my nigga strykker said.....to avoid being killed/hit....
AND i did think at first u need marco's to do it, BUT U DONT, all u need is 2 keys, prone and crouch then your away...
I too dive and shoot and hop from tanks, that's about it though.SGT.Slayero wrote:
i dive sometimes and sometimes hop i front of tanks
they'll just stop being infantry and hop back into their planes/choppers/tanks so they can get back to "trowning" you...[mcp]eltorrente wrote:
Who are the ones with no skill, now that they are curbing some of this silly behavior?
Speaking of which, it looks like prone spamming and bunny hopping are both difficult for you to deal with (when you aren't hiding in one of your vehicles, at least).polarbearz wrote:
Mmmmm. Suck a cock and die.
Its not a matter of 'looking like an idiot', if you're a fucking bobo shooter and can't hit an airborne target that can't shoot back, you fail.
We're not talking about real life here IRL .50 cal is enough to remove a limb or put a hole in the torso so big santa could crawl through.duk0r wrote:
Yeah, lets see you get hit with a 5.56mm or 7.56mm in mid air and see if you actually land where you jumped from. You won't!polarbearz wrote:
If you can't shoot prone-spammers maybe you should go back to CS.Darky wrote:
If you need to prone spam to increase your ratio, maybe you should go play that thing called 'Pac-Man'.
Pronespammers: Jump.. Jump.. Heal... Jump... Jump...heal...repeat.
The real problem is in the amount of abuse that occurs from this stuff - not from those are pissed about the abuse.Doggehspike wrote:
Dolphin diving/bunny hopping is unrealistic but then again, so is dying then coming back to life in 10 seconds.
So lets try and get that changed shall we?