Poll

Against bunnyhopping and dolphin diving?

Yes54%54% - 394
No45%45% - 327
Total: 721
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7022|Disaster Free Zone

sergeriver wrote:

bedolf57 wrote:

i'm a "low ranked noob that never win of everybody in combat!" for sure

gazzie wrote:

They have nerfed bunny hopping enough every patch they bring out they nerf the bunny hopping hurry to the cry babies of BF2. I have also noticed people who are new to battlefield 2 do not bunny hop yet when i play against someone who is experienced they bunny hop why is that oh yes i forget because were experienced.
Bunny hopping was stupid at first but the patch they brought out made it a bit more realistic and better because you couldn't shoot while jumping and doing crazy ass shit.
EA/DICE never intended you to bunny hop/dolphin dive, so aslong as people do it they will try and find ways to stop you doing it. Every patch that has come out in an attempt to nerf it, is proof to this. Its not because people complain, it is because DICE didn't expect (so many) people to exploit the jump/crouch/prone keys.
Also please don't generalise about experienced/noob players, because many people with many more hours and experience then you are against bunny hopping while alot of 'noobs' want to do it. Skill or not, its not a thing that should be part of a semi-realistic FPS.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2006-09-07 14:11:08)

GUNNYCWT
Member
+3|6833|Jacksonville NC
Later Bunnies and Dolphins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|6986|Ohio
i dont care either way. its a ligit tactic, i dont use either, well, i do a little dophin diving, but i dont repeatedly do it, just when i see a person, and i only jump first sometimes, so i guess its not really dding.
deadawakeing
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm
+145|6823
no im not
gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|7063|England

DrunkFace wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

bedolf57 wrote:

i'm a "low ranked noob that never win of everybody in combat!" for sure

gazzie wrote:

They have nerfed bunny hopping enough every patch they bring out they nerf the bunny hopping hurry to the cry babies of BF2. I have also noticed people who are new to battlefield 2 do not bunny hop yet when i play against someone who is experienced they bunny hop why is that oh yes i forget because were experienced.
Bunny hopping was stupid at first but the patch they brought out made it a bit more realistic and better because you couldn't shoot while jumping and doing crazy ass shit.
EA/DICE never intended you to bunny hop/dolphin dive, so aslong as people do it they will try and find ways to stop you doing it. Every patch that has come out in an attempt to nerf it, is proof to this. Its not because people complain, it is because DICE didn't expect (so many) people to exploit the jump/crouch/prone keys.
Also please don't generalise about experienced/noob players, because many people with many more hours and experience then you are against bunny hopping while alot of 'noobs' want to do it. Skill or not, its not a thing that should be part of a semi-realistic FPS.
Ahh i dont care about this argument anymore i can still bunny hop and just as effective been practicing it a hell of a lot to get round the nerfed part and yeah i can still hop like crazy. People are crying at me still because im bunny hopping and owning them ah well. No more patches to clear any of this
MT_Androo
Banned
+122|6810|The Suburb at Karkand

ToiletTrooper wrote:

People that votes yes:   Are low ranked noobs that never win of everybody in combat!
People that votes no:     Are good people!


EDIT: Against the using!
WOW you sound like a noob i bunny hop who the hell cares its just hopping and dodgin fire WOW big god damn deal can you people STFU with these annoying posts
Kanye North
randy
+80|6806
I think that people that complain about dolphin divers are little immature faggots who complain about dieing to much, learn to aim kids.
Not
Great success!
+216|6917|Chandler, AZ
If you think 1.4 fixed bunnyhopping/dolphin diving to break the hitboxes, play me sometime, lmfao I love 1.4
MT_Androo
Banned
+122|6810|The Suburb at Karkand

ToiletTrooper wrote:

People that votes yes:   Are low ranked noobs that never win of everybody in combat!
People that votes no:     Are good people!


EDIT: Against the using!
WOW your the noob i Dolphin Dive Bunnyhop all that shit do i give a fuck NO!! so can you stfu with these stupid posts alls it is is Jumping Diving Hoping Can you handle that?
Kanye North
randy
+80|6806
Hey Androo Congrats On Posting Twice
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|6971|Washington, DC

MT_Androo wrote:

ToiletTrooper wrote:

People that votes yes:   Are low ranked noobs that never win of everybody in combat!
People that votes no:     Are good people!


EDIT: Against the using!
WOW your the noob i Dolphin Dive Bunnyhop all that shit do i give a fuck NO!! so can you stfu with these stupid posts alls it is is Jumping Diving Hoping Can you handle that?
Please play in traffic. You aren't exactly helping out your fellow divers' cause by acting like a child.
[mcp]eltorrente
Member
+26|6849
They should just make a game where instead of soldiers, we are all large bunnies and we shoot each other with magic carrots and other vegetables.  THEN it wouldn't look so strange to see everyone jumping around.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6986
bunny hopping can get annoying when someone else is using it and you can kill them, but when I use it and get a kill or a revive I feel good
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6809

ToiletTrooper wrote:

People that votes yes:   Are low ranked noobs that never win of everybody in combat!
People that votes no:     Are good people!


EDIT: Against the using!
Well I think I figured out judging by this post that this guy never went school, instead he has always stayed on a computer perfecting bunnyhopping and D-Diving in all games where its possible. To the point where he cannot write in proper sentences and cannot get kills anyother way. Wow just shows what kind of people we have collected on this forum.
staticblue
Vindicator
+28|7076|Houston, TX

Kanye North wrote:

I think that people that complain about dolphin divers are little immature faggots who complain about dieing to much, learn to aim kids.
Immature faggots? I really don't think calling people faggots is very mature either. Maybe you should get to bed early so you can pay more attention in class. I sure hope, for your sake, your still in your teens. If not I will pray for you.

1. Bunnyhopping and prone spamming are concidered exploits. In the manner that they are techniques not intended to be used in the game. I guess you can blame EA/DICE for expecting people not to play like morons.

2. You look like an idiot.

3. It is a skillless attempt to save your pathetic skin. We will still kill you. Without your hopping and proning you are worthless. The only reason it generates any amount of success is only because your opponent is giving you the benefit of the doubt and, assume you aren't playing like a smacktard.

If everyone played like this the game would be terrible. I vote that the next BF engine either have no jumping and replace it with a climb button to scale walls. As for clearing gaps. They could have a long horizontal leap. No real elevation just one big leaping step. Could look any worse ingame than the morons hopping like scared rabbits.


P.S. It's dying, not dieing.

Last edited by staticblue (2006-09-07 18:19:15)

rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6901

staticblue wrote:

Kanye North wrote:

I think that people that complain about dolphin divers are little immature faggots who complain about dieing to much, learn to aim kids.
Immature faggots? I really don't think calling people faggots is very mature either. Maybe you should get to bed early so you can pay more attention in class. I sure hope, for your sake, your still in your teens. If not I will pray for you.

1. Bunnyhopping and prone spamming are concidered exploits. In the manner that they are techniques not intended to be used in the game. I guess you can blame EA/DICE for expecting people not to play like morons.

2. You look like an idiot.

3. It is a skillless attempt to save your pathetic skin. We will still kill you. Without your hopping and proning you are worthless. The only reason it generates any amount of success is only because your opponent is giving you the benefit of the doubt and, assume you aren't playing like a smacktard.

If everyone played like this the game would be terrible. I vote that the next BF engine either have no jumping and replace it with a climb button to scale walls. As for clearing gaps. They could have a long horizontal leap. No real elevation just one big leaping step. Could look any worse ingame than the morons hopping like scared rabbits.


P.S. It's dying, not dieing.
As for point number 3: It takes skill to dd and bh and still aim effectivley. Also, if you can still kill the bh and dd, why did they change the tactic. I'll tell you why, because the majority of players suck and need help or they will stop playing. The game will continue to be nerfed for noobs who can't learn how to play like the elite few.
manitobapaintballa
Member
+32|6960

_PQWeR_AuRoRa_olly wrote:

dam some of you people are such n00bs

Bunny hopping and dolphin diving.... are good things. i hate whining little pricks who complain about getting owned by me.
no they are exploits and that means it's cheating if you can't win without cheating your the noob
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6809

rawls2 wrote:

staticblue wrote:

Kanye North wrote:

I think that people that complain about dolphin divers are little immature faggots who complain about dieing to much, learn to aim kids.
Immature faggots? I really don't think calling people faggots is very mature either. Maybe you should get to bed early so you can pay more attention in class. I sure hope, for your sake, your still in your teens. If not I will pray for you.

1. Bunnyhopping and prone spamming are concidered exploits. In the manner that they are techniques not intended to be used in the game. I guess you can blame EA/DICE for expecting people not to play like morons.

2. You look like an idiot.

3. It is a skillless attempt to save your pathetic skin. We will still kill you. Without your hopping and proning you are worthless. The only reason it generates any amount of success is only because your opponent is giving you the benefit of the doubt and, assume you aren't playing like a smacktard.

If everyone played like this the game would be terrible. I vote that the next BF engine either have no jumping and replace it with a climb button to scale walls. As for clearing gaps. They could have a long horizontal leap. No real elevation just one big leaping step. Could look any worse ingame than the morons hopping like scared rabbits.


P.S. It's dying, not dieing.
As for point number 3: It takes skill to dd and bh and still aim effectivley. Also, if you can still kill the bh and dd, why did they change the tactic. I'll tell you why, because the majority of players suck and need help or they will stop playing. The game will continue to be nerfed for noobs who can't learn how to play like the elite few.
No it was nerfed not for n00bs but because of n00bs. N00bs who are so bad they need to resort to using exploits to get kills instead of Tactics Teamwork and Skill, the three things you need have to not suck in 1.4. Anyone could D-Dive, n00b or 1337, but not everyone did because they knew it makes the game less fun for everyone else. As for Bunnyhoppingl; remeber back in 1.12 when the guys with the best K were either assault hopping around with the 'nade-launcher, getting instant kill although most people had a hard time hitting them, or they would be spec-ops and bounce with C4 in hand, throw it on a guy and bounce off without getting hit enough to be killed before he could set it off? I remember then, it was when despite my abilty to aim and use cover and that stuff I would get killed all the time because some asshole was using exploits. Everyone says 1.2 sucked because of the nerfs, but what they don't realize is to many people were at disadvantage in almost all situations. DICE nerfed because the game was not perfectly balanced like it is now. Now all kits are all around of the same strenght, instead of two kits being unstoppable. While the kits are still quite different they are now only at disadvantage if faced with a situation they were not made to deal with, the support will almost always lose to a sniper at long range, the engineer will ussally beat spec-ops at cqc and so on. you see the nerfs only helped the gameplay overall (except the claymore one, all that did was replace exploiters), and further ones are just making it better by hurting the exploiters while barely hurting the people being affected by the exploiting. Thank You.

Oh and I played 1.12 for two months (until 1.2 came out) and I am ready to say that it is better balanced now.
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6901
Remember when people were hopping around killing people. Yeah killing you. Therefore, you are a noob. You prove my point. They nerfed it because the game was to hard for noobs.

Last edited by rawls2 (2006-09-09 14:35:50)

Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6809

rawls2 wrote:

Remember when people were hopping around killing people. Yeah killing you. Therefore, you are a noob. You prove my point. They nerfed it because the game was to hard for noobs.
So I am a n00b because I rely on true skill instead of so jack-ass exploit? Please some one tell me how there is skill involved in hitting Space repeatedly while getting one hit kills with a grenade launcher. Tell me how is there skill in the repetitive hitting of z-space-ctrl, tell me because to me skill is being able to put your cross-hair on the jackass in front of you fast enough to not get shot up. Skill is also joining up with a squad to attack a place instead of going off by yourself flapping like a fish and getting cheap kills. Yeah my LW time is alot higher then any other time but guess what, that was left over from back when i was a n00b, before I knew that the game is best when you are in a coordinated squad, and since then my K has evened out. Yes and all you do is flop around so that you are impossible to hit without an aim-bot (yes I did just blame aim-bots on d-divers) but with minimum deviation. The reason we hate them and DICE removed them is simple: they are a cheap way to play that only true points whores do (see -=RF=-Volx's stats for more info) because they only care for stats. While stats are funny I cannot see how making the game that repetitive is fun, same tactic all the time, and it only works on Karkand, possibly Sharqi and Mashtuur and that's it. You are making a jack-ass of yourself and not really having fun because by doing that you are paying $50 for one map. I am so glad this was removed and as far as I can tell so are most people. I love it when idiots try to win arguments, it is just so funny how dumb the things they say are.
leesupport
Member
+39|7023
i hope once in a while mostly when im reloading but i dont get mad if someone hops when i shoot them cause as long as they can tshoot while they are in the air then its all fair....but im not against hopping people get mad about it even though you cant shoot while hopping but all hopping really does if confuse the person thats shooting at you.
Hellfire(Fish)
Your Favorite Whiny Liberal
+8|6846|Alabama, United States
lol, "Low ranked noobs"?
I'm sorry but correct me if I'm wrong here,
Dolphin diving is an EXPLOIT of the BF2 engine where you are allowed to get multiple VERY ACCURATE shots while being VERY hard to hit, (A.K.A. doing the worm around the battlefield.)
and Bunny hopping is the ability to jump CONSTANTLY while moving at full speed, thus allowing said jumper to be HARD TO HIT, and taking away any advantage that SHOULD be given to someone that wasn't stupid enough to run out in front of an enemy's field of fire.
leesupport
Member
+39|7023

Hellfire(Fish) wrote:

lol, "Low ranked noobs"?
I'm sorry but correct me if I'm wrong here,
Dolphin diving is an EXPLOIT of the BF2 engine where you are allowed to get multiple VERY ACCURATE shots while being VERY hard to hit, (A.K.A. doing the worm around the battlefield.)
and Bunny hopping is the ability to jump CONSTANTLY while moving at full speed, thus allowing said jumper to be HARD TO HIT, and taking away any advantage that SHOULD be given to someone that wasn't stupid enough to run out in front of an enemy's field of fire.
i like it when people hop when i shoot them cause it makes me a better player if i can shoot them while they are hopping.....but thats just me i like to adapt to stuff instead of complaning about it.
Hellfire(Fish)
Your Favorite Whiny Liberal
+8|6846|Alabama, United States
To put this in a bit more perspective,
I used to play a Half life Mod Called Natural Selection in which bunny hopping wasn't some lame exploit that any noob with a spacebar and a w key could do.
It took SKILL to perform.
In NS bunny hopping was a VERY complicated, hard to pull off, fluid motion of keyboard and mouse that made the bunny hopper faster and gave the aliens (the only side able to bunny hop) a much needed advantage versus the gun wielding humans.

In BF2 all bunny hopping was, is going "LOLOLOLOLOL I HIT SPACEBAR FAST AND I CAN'T BE HIT LOLOLOLOL"
This takes NO skill to perform and turns the game into a completely lame version of Quake.
If you think that bunny  hopping was awesome, go play a game that has lot's of AOE weapons to deal with the hard to hit bunny hoppers, like Quake.
Otherwise, stop bitching about it being fixed, and LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME WITH SOME SKILLS.
That is all.

Last edited by Hellfire(Fish) (2006-09-09 17:39:45)

Fallschirmjager10
Member
+36|6801
its so fun to use the nade launcher on bunny hoppers they always blame it on lag lmao.

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