"The chopper is the most powerful vehicle in BF2 because, with a skilled enough player, it is a weapon that doesn't miss and kills anything in one shot, its in many ways, like the AWP is to CS." - BUDFORCE
Agree or contest?
Agree or contest?
Agree.
Like the AWP also, an intelligent enough player on the other team can effectively counter WITH a similar weapon + situational awareness.
Or with a different weapon, understanding the limitations of the chopper, can also be used effectively against it. I.e. AA Vehicles in strategic areas. However, the more highly skilled the pilot is, the harder it'll be to counter, tricks such as barrel rolling into their own flares, staying 300m above ground to solo tv are all examples of skilled players countering the usual techniques used against them.
Against these skilled players (once again like pro-AWP users), being skilled in a different vehicle i.e. Jets would be a strong plus, or very simply in any team game: team work and coordination. Decoy/Bait, or just covering fire. It may not take down that skilled sniper in CS, but enough pressure i.e. Flash/Smoke/Covering Fire, would make him back off, or damage him enough to hide.
Like the AWP also, an intelligent enough player on the other team can effectively counter WITH a similar weapon + situational awareness.
Or with a different weapon, understanding the limitations of the chopper, can also be used effectively against it. I.e. AA Vehicles in strategic areas. However, the more highly skilled the pilot is, the harder it'll be to counter, tricks such as barrel rolling into their own flares, staying 300m above ground to solo tv are all examples of skilled players countering the usual techniques used against them.
Against these skilled players (once again like pro-AWP users), being skilled in a different vehicle i.e. Jets would be a strong plus, or very simply in any team game: team work and coordination. Decoy/Bait, or just covering fire. It may not take down that skilled sniper in CS, but enough pressure i.e. Flash/Smoke/Covering Fire, would make him back off, or damage him enough to hide.
Last edited by polarbearz (2006-09-06 11:10:38)
I Agree 2! Choppers are the most effective Weapon with a good pilot and/ or gunner. But comparing it with the AWP isn't the same. The CS Physics engine has no bullet drop, bullet speed and the AWP even kills instantly. The TV missile too (the instant kill), but its still harder (especially after the range reducing) to kill other choppers or Jets, than a slow walking person with the rifle.
But the most powerful weapon is still the knife!
But the most powerful weapon is still the knife!
If your talkin about a gunner that will hit 10 out of 10 planes, then yeah, but when we step back into reality, no.BUDFORCE wrote:
"The chopper is the most powerful vehicle in BF2 because, with a skilled enough player, it is a weapon that doesn't miss and kills anything in one shot, its in many ways, like the AWP is to CS." - BUDFORCE
Agree or contest?
Last edited by RDMC(2) (2006-09-06 11:21:40)
Agree
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If someone else made this it would be closed. but yes i agree about the heli
In the right hands, any weapon is the 'most' deadly.
Even the Type 85?!?!liquidat0r wrote:
In the right hands, any weapon is the 'most' deadly.
And yeah choppers pwn.
A chooper can take out things at long range! but its the tanks that hold the ground! well in real life.
Agree but it depends on the map, but generally I have spent more time being totally frustrated by a fantastic chopper pilot and gunner combination than I would like to contemplate.
If you can do it, then kudos to you cos I can't.
If you can do it, then kudos to you cos I can't.
I disagree.
Literal meaning of 'powerful'. The helicopter does not pack more firepower than the artillery, and the normal weapons at a helicopter's disposal are outmatched by the tanks' primary firepower and the APC's secondary missile. Bearing in mind that the TV missile is only utilised by exceptional pilots or additional gunners- in which case you're talking about a 'weapon' with TWO operators, - which thus classifies it apart from other 'weapons' (as you put it yourself) in Battlefield 2.
Also, your point about accuracy with weapons is slightly confusing and misleading. Any gun in a computer game is 'accurate'- recoil is not realistic, nor is other outside elements such as jamming, overheating or fatigue. Therefore, accuracy is more of a 'point the reticule at the pixels' more than a weapon characteristic. Although EA have programmed weapon deviation and bullet 'spray'- I still feel that accuracy lies mainly in the skill of the user, and not the weapon.
And, as everyone else has said- skill is determined by player. Power and effectivity is in the hands of that player.
Literal meaning of 'powerful'. The helicopter does not pack more firepower than the artillery, and the normal weapons at a helicopter's disposal are outmatched by the tanks' primary firepower and the APC's secondary missile. Bearing in mind that the TV missile is only utilised by exceptional pilots or additional gunners- in which case you're talking about a 'weapon' with TWO operators, - which thus classifies it apart from other 'weapons' (as you put it yourself) in Battlefield 2.
Also, your point about accuracy with weapons is slightly confusing and misleading. Any gun in a computer game is 'accurate'- recoil is not realistic, nor is other outside elements such as jamming, overheating or fatigue. Therefore, accuracy is more of a 'point the reticule at the pixels' more than a weapon characteristic. Although EA have programmed weapon deviation and bullet 'spray'- I still feel that accuracy lies mainly in the skill of the user, and not the weapon.
And, as everyone else has said- skill is determined by player. Power and effectivity is in the hands of that player.
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I dont agree with that at all.pure_beef_69 wrote:
If someone else made this it would be closed. but yes i agree about the heli
Ok while im not going to disagree with what you say in pricipal, let me put it this way.Uzique wrote:
I disagree.
Literal meaning of 'powerful'. The helicopter does not pack more firepower than the artillery, and the normal weapons at a helicopter's disposal are outmatched by the tanks' primary firepower and the APC's secondary missile. Bearing in mind that the TV missile is only utilised by exceptional pilots or additional gunners- in which case you're talking about a 'weapon' with TWO operators, - which thus classifies it apart from other 'weapons' (as you put it yourself) in Battlefield 2.
Also, your point about accuracy with weapons is slightly confusing and misleading. Any gun in a computer game is 'accurate'- recoil is not realistic, nor is other outside elements such as jamming, overheating or fatigue. Therefore, accuracy is more of a 'point the reticule at the pixels' more than a weapon characteristic. Although EA have programmed weapon deviation and bullet 'spray'- I still feel that accuracy lies mainly in the skill of the user, and not the weapon.
And, as everyone else has said- skill is determined by player. Power and effectivity is in the hands of that player.
Put the best tank player in a tank, vs the best chopper pilot in a chopper, who wins?
absolute agree!
a skilled pilot in communications (VOIP) with a skilled gunner can win the round alone!
a skilled pilot in communications (VOIP) with a skilled gunner can win the round alone!
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I think the J-10 would be the most lethal attack tool. The next most lethal weapon would be the barrett.
The helicopters have the ability to be the deadliest weapon on the battlefield because of the TV missile. If someone is good enough then they will kill everything. Only no one is that good
I wouldnt be so sure, I am starting to get teh hang of popping J10's out of the sky with teh tV missile while going solo chopper.
Now, its possible they are noobs, and im not teh best chopper pilot ever, and im usually half pissed when I play BF2.
Now you take some 17 year old kid, with lightning reactions, who sits there and plays solo chopper for 12 hours a day, (and Im sure those people are out there), I dont think anything could stop them.
Now, its possible they are noobs, and im not teh best chopper pilot ever, and im usually half pissed when I play BF2.
Now you take some 17 year old kid, with lightning reactions, who sits there and plays solo chopper for 12 hours a day, (and Im sure those people are out there), I dont think anything could stop them.
I kill chopper whores like nothing. I just get in my jet and no lock...MG them down.....then they bitch and tell me to "get a life and go do my job which is bombing."...lol
And for those who want to say "ill just tv u out of the sky"...ill come at ur blind side and before u can even turn to face me ur dead.
And for those who want to say "ill just tv u out of the sky"...ill come at ur blind side and before u can even turn to face me ur dead.
Last edited by Teflon.DEP (2006-09-08 10:28:11)
Agree, if you know how to use it, you win, allways
Is it jsut me or do your stats show a 'WHOLE' 5 hours in a jet.Teflon.DEP wrote:
I kill chopper whores like nothing. I just get in my jet and no lock...MG them down.....then they bitch and tell me to "get a life and go do my job which is bombing."...lol
And for those who want to say "ill just tv u out of the sky"...ill come at ur blind side and before u can even turn to face me ur dead.
BURRRNNN!!!!BUDFORCE wrote:
Is it jsut me or do your stats show a 'WHOLE' 5 hours in a jet.Teflon.DEP wrote:
I kill chopper whores like nothing. I just get in my jet and no lock...MG them down.....then they bitch and tell me to "get a life and go do my job which is bombing."...lol
And for those who want to say "ill just tv u out of the sky"...ill come at ur blind side and before u can even turn to face me ur dead.
Good LGM guy + Good pilot = Most effective vehicle in BF2. Especially the SU's as they have the missile dodging power. F15 - Not so much, plus it has really shit characteristics.
in the wise words of usmarine(insert correct numbers here):
"That statement makes you sound like a tit."
lol, anyway, it is true and i agree completely.
"That statement makes you sound like a tit."
lol, anyway, it is true and i agree completely.
Id be almost inclined to agree with you there, as long as the LGM guy was really good.Mekstizzle wrote:
Good LGM guy + Good pilot = Most effective vehicle in BF2. Especially the SU's as they have the missile dodging power. F15 - Not so much, plus it has really shit characteristics.
Apart from the fact that a semi-decent pilot in the enemy fighter can kill the bomber every time... Anyway, I don't think choppas are godly or too good. They are vunerable to: jets, aa sites, aa vehicles, tanks, and 50 cals on jeeps. Not to mention the enemy choppas creeping up and tving you in the ass...
Last edited by Delphy (2006-09-08 12:04:10)
most powerfull weapon:
could even say the uav and minimap
could even say the uav and minimap