LostFate
Same shit, Different Arsehole
+95|6951|England
But i wonder what the average is for most soilders before they get killed?

hm..discuss...
Chillin&killin
Member
+27|7140|Manchester,England
3:1

RL id not know given that if they dont die they dont have a ratio

Last edited by Chillin&killin (2006-09-07 09:27:20)

Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7096|Washington, DC

Wait... what?
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7062|Seattle

If I kill one person for every time I die, I'm happy.

edit: oh wait...you mean in RL?

Last edited by King_County_Downy (2006-09-07 09:18:17)

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|7011|Doncaster, UK
Yeah, I think he means IRL.

Anyone? Someone must have those stats somewhere.
explosivo
Banned
+262|7108
yea i'm happy if i have a ratio of one in a round coz i'm mostly on foot.

vehicles and aircraft are for pussys
Lionbeat
Member
+9|7111|LONDON
Depends what army.

To be honest, I dread to think.

edit - i'm presuming you mean in RL

Last edited by Lionbeat (2006-09-07 09:23:40)

M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7196|Peoria, Illinois

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Yeah, I think he means IRL.

Anyone? Someone must have those stats somewhere.
I wonder how many soldiers spawncamp in real life to get a high kdr.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7092|Warlord

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Yeah, I think he means IRL.

Anyone? Someone must have those stats somewhere.
Depends on if you count the guys actually shooting or all the grunts on the ground (you know the story?)

I'm not sure if these are accurate but one source says the Finns killed 1,000,000 of the invading Soviet troops for the loss of only 25,000 during the Winter War. That's about as good as it gets IRL I think.

And for those that don't think snipers are effective: Simo Häyhä, 500-0 (iron sights!)
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7086|London, England
Probably the guy who pressed the button/lever which dropped the Nuke on Japan in WW2 has the biggest amount of kills done by one man. That was sort of indirect though.

There was a program interviewing some German guy who was the person to single handedly kill the most allies in WW2. His job - MG42 gunner on Omaha beach.

Anyway, i think discussing things like this is pretty sick...
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7031|England

How about one of our British snipers

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006350757,00.html


39/0 in RL with an L96A1....thats better than any sniper in BF2
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6929|cuntshitlake

With normal guns (not vehicles or bombs) The most confirmed kills. TOP3

Best: Simo Häyhä (Finland): 542 Kills With an UNSCOPED 7.62 rifle and 200+ Kills with an UNSCOPED Submachinegun. He is 93 years still alive.

Second: Nikolay Ilyin (Russia) 496 Kills

Third: Erwin König (Germany) 400+ Kills


All Records done in WWII.

FINLAND. That's the place where the best snipers come from..

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2006-09-07 09:55:41)

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Psycho
Member since 2005
+44|7241|Kansas, USA
The Real Life KDR average is 1:1, because all the kills is equal to all the deaths. So any number divided by itself is 1.

however, there are a lot of considerations that could be factored in:

SUICIDES: Do you count these? If so, does it count for a kill and a death by that individual?

FRIENDLY FIRE (a.k.a. TKs): Do you count these and if so do you count them only as deaths and not as kills since the kill isn't intentional.

Now, if you are only talking about the KDR of soldiers who have actually killed someone (and may or may not have died later) and are not factoring in all the poor souls that were killed and didn't kill anyone themselves, then it becomes more difficult. The KDR would fluctuate greatly over the centuries and across countries. For example, the KDR was most likely lower during the 18th century when most fighting was hand-to-hand. And these days it would be higher for soldiers from countries such as the USA that are more technologically advanced than most of it's adversaries.
INDREKK367
Member
+10|6952

DeathUnlimited wrote:

With normal guns (not vehicles or bombs) The most confirmed kills. TOP3

Best: Simo Häyhä (Finland): 542 Kills With an UNSCOPED 7.62 rifle and 200+ Kills with an UNSCOPED Submachinegun. He is 93 years still alive.

Second: Nikolay Ilyin (Russia) 496 Kills

Third: Erwin König (Germany) 400+ Kills


All Records done in WWII.

FINLAND. That's the place where the best snipers come from..
Russians are probably not telling the truth...
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7309|Reykjavík, Iceland.

explosivo wrote:

yea i'm happy if i have a ratio of one in a round coz i'm mostly on foot.

vehicles and aircraft are for pussys
It's way easier to get a high KDR in a round on foot than vehicles, save planes and choppers, vehicles are just much more fun to use.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6929|cuntshitlake

INDREKK367 wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

With normal guns (not vehicles or bombs) The most confirmed kills. TOP3

Best: Simo Häyhä (Finland): 542 Kills With an UNSCOPED 7.62 rifle and 200+ Kills with an UNSCOPED Submachinegun. He is 93 years still alive.

Second: Nikolay Ilyin (Russia) 496 Kills

Third: Erwin König (Germany) 400+ Kills


All Records done in WWII.

FINLAND. That's the place where the best snipers come from..
Russians are probably not telling the truth...
Probably. In the wars of Finland died about 40 Russians per 1 Finnish. Russians have only admitted 10:1..
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
Fearmesnipers
Member
+41|6911|Wales

DeathUnlimited wrote:

INDREKK367 wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

With normal guns (not vehicles or bombs) The most confirmed kills. TOP3

Best: Simo Häyhä (Finland): 542 Kills With an UNSCOPED 7.62 rifle and 200+ Kills with an UNSCOPED Submachinegun. He is 93 years still alive.

Second: Nikolay Ilyin (Russia) 496 Kills

Third: Erwin König (Germany) 400+ Kills


All Records done in WWII.

FINLAND. That's the place where the best snipers come from..
Russians are probably not telling the truth...
Probably. In the wars of Finland died about 40 Russians per 1 Finnish. Russians have only admitted 10:1..
In that case you can neither say Russia or the fins are lieing. Its obviously one of them, but you cannot just say its one with zero evidence.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7309|Reykjavík, Iceland.
IIRC The russians claimed Finland to be a nazi-supported because they didn't allow them to roll through their land with their tanks...I wouldn't have allowed anyone to roll through my country.

Then again, the Finnish air force logo was a blue swastika
https://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/faf/hakarist.gif
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6929|cuntshitlake

PBAsydney wrote:

IIRC The russians claimed Finland to be a nazi-supported because they didn't allow them to roll through their land with their tanks...I wouldn't have allowed anyone to roll through my country.

Then again, the Finnish air force logo was a blue swastika
http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/faf/hakarist.gif
True but the finnish air-forces took the "nazi-cross" as their symbol a hellowa lotta time before hitler. so the have nothing to do with each other.
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Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7092|Warlord

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Best: Simo Häyhä (Finland): 542 Kills With an UNSCOPED 7.62 rifle and 200+ Kills with an UNSCOPED Submachinegun. He is 93 years still alive.
I beat you to it and he passed away in '02


PBAsydney wrote:

IIRC The russians claimed Finland to be a nazi-supported because they didn't allow them to roll through their land with their tanks...I wouldn't have allowed anyone to roll through my country.

Then again, the Finnish air force logo was a blue swastika
http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/faf/hakarist.gif
The swastika is an ancient symbol and was used in heraldry and by the native Americans, long before the Nazis perverted its image for all time.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7086|London, England
Native Americans? No it wasn't those Indians, it was the Indian Indians, as in, Hindus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Edit: Wait, we're both right.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2006-09-07 12:23:56)

Jenkinsbball
Banned
+149|7013|USA bitches!
Well, in Solmalia, during the Black Hawk Down incident (whatever the real name was), we killed 1000+ of those pricks to our like 20. Nice.

Last edited by Jenkinsbball (2006-09-07 12:35:31)

sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|6998|Denmizzark!!

PBAsydney wrote:

explosivo wrote:

yea i'm happy if i have a ratio of one in a round coz i'm mostly on foot.

vehicles and aircraft are for pussys
It's way easier to get a high KDR in a round on foot than vehicles, save planes and choppers, vehicles are just much more fun to use.
Wtf?? thats the most incorrect statement since nixon said "I am not a crook"..
sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|6998|Denmizzark!!

Jenkinsbball wrote:

Well, in Solmalia, during the Black Hawk Down incident (whatever the real name was), we killed 1000+ of those pricks to our like 20. Nice.
I really hate you.. "we killed" what a sorry sick fuck you must be..
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7309|Reykjavík, Iceland.

sgt.sonner wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

explosivo wrote:

yea i'm happy if i have a ratio of one in a round coz i'm mostly on foot.

vehicles and aircraft are for pussys
It's way easier to get a high KDR in a round on foot than vehicles, save planes and choppers, vehicles are just much more fun to use.
Wtf?? thats the most incorrect statement since nixon said "I am not a crook"..
No it isn't, when you are using a tank you are going to get either owned by another tank, a plane, AT soldiers or a C4 monkey.

As infantry you can hide everywhere, take cover easily and sneak around to stay alive.

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