kylef
Gone
+1,352|6958|N. Ireland
Pliers can be used by only Special-Ops and Engineers.

Pliers allow you to cut through fences and "break" enemy vehicles. Like the wrench, they require time to do their job.

Pliers can render the following things temporarily useless :

- Enemy Artillery (Takes 20 seconds to disable)
- Enemy SCAN Machines (Takes 30 seconds to disable)
- Enemy UAV Machines (Takes 40 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Air Defense (Takes 15 seconds to disable)
- Enemy MG/TOW (Takes 15 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Transport Vehicle (Takes 25 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Heavily Armored Vehicle (Takes 30 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Aircraft (Takes 40 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Transport Chopper (Takes 35 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Gun-Chopper (Takes 40 seconds to disable)
- Enemy Tank (Takes 45 seconds to disable)
- Enemy APC (Takes 40 seconds to disable)

To avoid spamming and all that - they can only be used on ENEMY equipment and the reason it takes a bit of time to avoid some serious whores.

This will also make it a lot easier to gain Expert Engineer when you repair things. You'll earn 2 team points when you destroy enemy objects, and can also be used more discreetly as whilst the Commander will see his assets go down, no-one will know.

Of course, like the wrench, you cannot kill people with pliers - rendering them useless.

Thoughts!?!
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|7181|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX
Sounds kind of like the blow torch and booby traps in BF:V.  I like it.
M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7196|Peoria, Illinois
Blowing commander assets up is more fun. Besides, a tank isn't considered enemy unitl an enemy is in it and I'd like to see you spend 45 seconds near an enemy tank without being noticed. I'd rather spend my 45 seconds looking for the enemy commander so I can gut him with my blade.

Last edited by M1-Lightning (2006-09-07 13:36:53)

sneakers-n-ointment
Member
+8|6924|chicago
No, that would be too fun.
APortillo
Member
+21|6978|California, USA
You should also be able to deactivate c4's "cut the red one, its always the red one!"

Anyway +1 for a good idea
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6958|N. Ireland
Thanks for the positive comments all
DeadboyUSMC
Member
+65|7164|NCFSU2
Takes more than a pair of pliers to disable a howitzer, but it's a cool idea.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6987|...

Good idea. Sabatouge would be good for engineer. Rather than a specifc tool, the animation would vary upon the context, i.e. wrench when fixing, torch when dismantiling, wire snips when disabling c4.
APortillo
Member
+21|6978|California, USA

DeadboyUSMC wrote:

Takes more than a pair of pliers to disable a howitzer, but it's a cool idea.
Well it also takes more than an adjustable wrench to repair stuff
Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|7210|Houston, TX

DeadboyUSMC wrote:

Takes more than a pair of pliers to disable a howitzer, but it's a cool idea.
We seem to be able to fix a bullet ridden, 120mm shell damaged tank with a wrench like McGuyver.

I can only imagine the havoc that would ensue by introducing a pair of pliers!!! 

Great idea!

KJ
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|7007|Texas - Bigger than France
I like this idea.

Create a new kit - "Spy".

(Shoots frickin lasers and ill tempered to boot).
APortillo
Member
+21|6978|California, USA
Spies do always seem to be pissed off
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6987|...

Not to mention you grab someone by the nose or ears with the pliers ... perhaps pin the enemy down and pull out teeth
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|7007|Texas - Bigger than France
Sweet - I see "Vet Torture Badge".  10 confessions.

Each confession = you get to see where that player is for the rest of the round.

Make them teamkill on purpose.

Make them blow up their own assets.
lagerfool
Member
+23|7230|SE Virgina
I do miss the variety of equipment that BF:V offered.  Pliers, 'booty traps', shoulder fired AA, and even the shovel.
AAFCptKabbom
Member
+127|7123|WPB, FL. USA
Sounds like someone is really frustrated cause he cant get his Expert Engineer

C-4 cures all ills!
lagerfool
Member
+23|7230|SE Virgina
im not worried about EE.  i just miss the variety
MonroStrongrod
Member
+4|7071|Sacramento, California
Good idea for the ability to break through a fence, however disabling enemy equipment is kinda pointless. Why spend 30 seconds near an enemy command obj. when it takes 4 seconds to place an explosive and run.

Last edited by MonroStrongrod (2006-09-07 16:17:48)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6956|Northern California
I think pliers should be used to deactivate claymores, at mines, and c4..and then they should be enabled for pick up and reuse or something.

I think there was a similar thread talking about disabling mines and claymores..pliers would be good for that.
lagerfool
Member
+23|7230|SE Virgina
good idea using them to cut thro fences.  and iron like that one as well.  i agree disabling equip would be pointless when it can be blow up easier.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6956|Northern California
..unless by disabling it, it would be out of commission for the round!  THEN it would be a viable option, imho.

But disabling it should take at least a minute for each vehicle..maybe longer for trailers and arty.
Adonlude
Member
+2|7244

Pug wrote:

I like this idea.

Create a new kit - "Spy".

(Shoots frickin lasers and ill tempered to boot).
Thats a cool idea but how about a NINJA class?

The ninja would be armed with:
Katana - 1 hit kills just like a knife only with 4x the reach of the knife
10xThrowing Stars - Short range weapon doing maybe 20 dmg
10xPoison Blow Darts - Short range weapon that degrades life after 3 minutes unless a medkit is used

*The ninja can also climb ANY wall or tree quickly
*The ninja can sprint a little faster than anyone else
*The ninja can drop from greater hights and take less damage from the impact
chittydog
less busy
+586|7300|Kubra, Damn it!

God, not the ninja crap again. I'll go look for one of the other threads mentioning this and post the link. Next comes the pirate class, the butt-pirate class, then the penguin class...


Edit
Ninja kit threads:
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=4607
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=1789&p=2
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=5861
snore

Last edited by chittydog (2006-09-07 16:42:16)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6956|Northern California
lol, ninjas....  CHuck Norris eats Ninjas raw like sushi and uses their katanas to trim his beard and chest hair!

how bout CHUCK NORRIS being the commander!!!  Good luck keeping that badass at an uncap for the round!!
DirtyMexican
I knife Generals
+278|7002|Search Whore killing fields
Id liek to see something like callofduty united offensive, where you ahve to wait a sertant time to capture an enemys vehicle

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