The GL is still extremely effective, just make sure it bounces off walls for close quarters-MIKI3. wrote:
all classes are still pretty equal exept: medic way too overpowerd and assault just sucks no reason too use that kit...
There is nothing wrong with Assault, if you use it right, you can pwn all the Medics and Supports you want
Yep, then the whiners ruin the game with their 'omg X is too good and Im not good enough to do it EA NERF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!11!!111one!!' stuff. Now infantry is in its current pitiful state.LostFate wrote:
I've just been thinkin an i figured that when the game first came out the classes were equal...
Think about it..
Medics = instant heal
Assault = Big boom launcher
Support = No limit on nades.
Spec ops = Throwing c4
Snipers = claymores
Engineer = tanks
They all had somthing special about them an now its just medic an support that are good....stupid whiners!
Engy = Boomstick smackdowns
Then go and play your 1.12 where everything was "balanced" (read: good for your way of playing) and leave everyone else (e.g. the people who adapt without complaining about "ZOMG DEY N3RFED MAI 1337 STRATEG1Z") alone, hm?
Edit: And for the people who are about to disagree with me, please take the time to think up a better response than "STFU WHINY N00B".
Edit: And for the people who are about to disagree with me, please take the time to think up a better response than "STFU WHINY N00B".
Last edited by k30dxedle (2006-09-09 10:31:41)
1.4 = Medic & support > rest
1.12 = All kits exept sniper > Sniper
nuff said
1.12 = All kits exept sniper > Sniper
nuff said
I had to highlight it to read it, but you're right on.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Stop with the blue font, use something people can read without making them go blind.=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
ur just saying 'I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SKILL WHATSOEVA!'
if u think only medic and support are good...u suck
medic = dam good gun, heal, revive
assult = better gun, smoke/flashbang
Support = No limit on nades and good gun (PKM)
Spec ops = accurate as hell gun, c4
Snipers = L96A1 that can headshot someone from nort/south base/vill to arty asland on wake, claymores
Engineer = repair anything with wrench, AT mines to go BOOM!!!,powerful shotguns +MP7
AT = dao, huge and accurate enough rocket
all classes ARE STILL equal
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
although i hate the blue text..........i totally agree=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
ur just saying 'I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SKILL WHATSOEVA!'
if u think only medic and support are good...u suck
medic = dam good gun, heal, revive
assult = better gun, smoke/flashbang
Support = No limit on nades and good gun (PKM)
Spec ops = accurate as hell gun, c4
Snipers = L96A1 that can headshot someone from nort/south base/vill to arty asland on wake, claymores
Engineer = repair anything with wrench, AT mines to go BOOM!!!,powerful shotguns +MP7
AT = dao, huge and accurate enough rocket
all classes ARE STILL equal
if u cant take on any class with any other class....u just suck
if you think only medic and support are good, try playing other classes. those 2 cant do shit when 2 tanks come rolling inbound.
lmfao
You gave me a headache..=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
ur just saying 'I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SKILL WHATSOEVA!'
if u think only medic and support are good...u suck
medic = dam good gun, heal, revive
assult = better gun, smoke/flashbang
Support = No limit on nades and good gun (PKM)
Spec ops = accurate as hell gun, c4
Snipers = L96A1 that can headshot someone from nort/south base/vill to arty asland on wake, claymores
Engineer = repair anything with wrench, AT mines to go BOOM!!!,powerful shotguns +MP7
AT = dao, huge and accurate enough rocket
all classes ARE STILL equal
if u cant take on any class with any other class....u just suck
Assault still rocks in my book. Nothing like a rifle and a vest.
Bah, what do I care? I've almost stopped playing this game. And NO, it's not because of 1.4, even though the only thing that seems fixed is the prone-crouch delay.
Bah, what do I care? I've almost stopped playing this game. And NO, it's not because of 1.4, even though the only thing that seems fixed is the prone-crouch delay.
haffeysucks wrote:
I had to highlight it to read it, but you're right on.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Stop with the blue font, use something people can read without making them go blind.=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
ur just saying 'I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SKILL WHATSOEVA!'
if u think only medic and support are good...u suck
medic = dam good gun, heal, revive
assult = better gun, smoke/flashbang
Support = No limit on nades and good gun (PKM)
Spec ops = accurate as hell gun, c4
Snipers = L96A1 that can headshot someone from nort/south base/vill to arty asland on wake, claymores
Engineer = repair anything with wrench, AT mines to go BOOM!!!,powerful shotguns +MP7
AT = dao, huge and accurate enough rocket
all classes ARE STILL equal
haffeysucks wrote:
I had to highlight it to read it, but you're right on.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Stop with the blue font, use something people can read without making them go blind.=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
ur just saying 'I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SKILL WHATSOEVA!'
if u think only medic and support are good...u suck
medic = dam good gun, heal, revive
assult = better gun, smoke/flashbang
Support = No limit on nades and good gun (PKM)
Spec ops = accurate as hell gun, c4
Snipers = L96A1 that can headshot someone from nort/south base/vill to arty asland on wake, claymores
Engineer = repair anything with wrench, AT mines to go BOOM!!!,powerful shotguns +MP7
AT = dao, huge and accurate enough rocket
all classes ARE STILL equal
wow dude, you stole my level 17 ninja thing, you queer, also i still think meds guns are alittle to powerful with the advantage that they can heal themselves.genius_man16 wrote:
There is nothing wrong with Assault, if you use it right, you can pwn all the Medics and Supports you want
In what aspect are the classes supposed to be equal? in infantry combat?
There are three, maybe four classes that are meant for inf combat: Medics, assault, supports, and in a way spec ops.
A medic beats an assault player. At least, amongst good players, they do. Why? mr. assault dude doesn't have much to say against a headshot, which negates his 'extra armor abilities'. His nade launcher? Again, a quick shot beats that most of the time, and even with its advantages the medics get unlimited health and revives instead. Medics > assault.
Supports are just that, support. Both medic and assault beat it.
Spec ops has the weakest guns out of the three, and without any extra combat abilities is inferior to the other three classes. Sure, he has C4, but that's a minor bonus and nothing you can use in a quick fight.
AT has the DAO, which is powerful in CQC, but just that. Again, can be beaten in CQC by speed, and even though he wins there everywhere else he loses out. No nades either, so inferior to the other four.
Engineer has shotguns and the mp7.. again only useful in CQC. He can lay mines, but from an infantry perspective that's useless, just as his wrench. He has nades, which is his advantage over AT.
Snipers are only truly effective long range.
All of the above is from an infantry only perspective, though. AT is meant to be behind the 'true' infantry classes, destroying tanks. Engineers shouldn't be on foot but in vehicles or backing them up. Spec ops is meant to be sneaky and not be directly engaged. Snipers are supposed to stay far away and not up close. And to be honest, snipers require by far the most skill to use and return the least, and while proving a fun challenge, are not that useful in infantry combat.
If all classes are equal, then we'd see more than just Medics and AT guys in matches.
There are three, maybe four classes that are meant for inf combat: Medics, assault, supports, and in a way spec ops.
A medic beats an assault player. At least, amongst good players, they do. Why? mr. assault dude doesn't have much to say against a headshot, which negates his 'extra armor abilities'. His nade launcher? Again, a quick shot beats that most of the time, and even with its advantages the medics get unlimited health and revives instead. Medics > assault.
Supports are just that, support. Both medic and assault beat it.
Spec ops has the weakest guns out of the three, and without any extra combat abilities is inferior to the other three classes. Sure, he has C4, but that's a minor bonus and nothing you can use in a quick fight.
AT has the DAO, which is powerful in CQC, but just that. Again, can be beaten in CQC by speed, and even though he wins there everywhere else he loses out. No nades either, so inferior to the other four.
Engineer has shotguns and the mp7.. again only useful in CQC. He can lay mines, but from an infantry perspective that's useless, just as his wrench. He has nades, which is his advantage over AT.
Snipers are only truly effective long range.
All of the above is from an infantry only perspective, though. AT is meant to be behind the 'true' infantry classes, destroying tanks. Engineers shouldn't be on foot but in vehicles or backing them up. Spec ops is meant to be sneaky and not be directly engaged. Snipers are supposed to stay far away and not up close. And to be honest, snipers require by far the most skill to use and return the least, and while proving a fun challenge, are not that useful in infantry combat.
If all classes are equal, then we'd see more than just Medics and AT guys in matches.
Sherman, dark on dark doesn't work.
1.12 had the best balance IMO. Now it's mostly medic and support, with some engies in the tanks and some snipers that usually suck. Any other kits are in choppers or planes.
1.12 had the best balance IMO. Now it's mostly medic and support, with some engies in the tanks and some snipers that usually suck. Any other kits are in choppers or planes.
#=W=GeneralSherman wrote:
ur just saying 'I HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO SKILL WHATSOEVA!'
if u think only medic and support are good...u suck
medic = dam good gun, heal, revive
assult = better gun, smoke/flashbang
Support = No limit on nades and good gun (PKM)
Spec ops = accurate as hell gun, c4
Snipers = L96A1 that can headshot someone from nort/south base/vill to arty asland on wake, claymores
Engineer = repair anything with wrench, AT mines to go BOOM!!!,powerful shotguns +MP7
AT = dao, huge and accurate enough rocket
all classes ARE STILL equal
if u cant take on any class with any other class....u just suck
YOUR CHOICE OF COLOUR MAKES MY EYES BLEED
There is plenty of balance. If the team your playing on only has support and medics, change teams so you don't have all noobs that want a bunch of points. Each kit has its uses, and good teams make use of all kits to win. On pretty much every map, you need all the kits. I would rather go one on one with a medic than an assualt player (as long as both are of equal talent). Maybe you need to change up your game a little.
Kits are used for different aspects of this game. Why should they be completely balanced? That's why the point of this game is to be in squads, not 1 on 1!
A medic confronting a sniper is normally not a good situation for the medic, unless the sniper is on the move.
A sniper confronting a tank is bad thing.
A assault kit confronting a jeep usually spells death, but a jeep confronting an Anti-armor=jeep loses.
I don't get the rant?
A medic confronting a sniper is normally not a good situation for the medic, unless the sniper is on the move.
A sniper confronting a tank is bad thing.
A assault kit confronting a jeep usually spells death, but a jeep confronting an Anti-armor=jeep loses.
I don't get the rant?
Last edited by KungfuBeer (2006-09-09 14:28:45)