BF2S Forums Internet Explorer 7 VS Firefox

I prefer FF and I have many years experience too.  I use IE for Windows Updates, even though I do not need to.

You know, I've been thinking this whole night, how to prove to Nyte that his opinions on Microsoft are out of proportion. I think I've hit on the way to do it.

Microsoft is the Dice of the operating system world.

(Microsoft/Dice) have a highly popular product that a lot of people use on a daily basis.
(Microsoft/Dice)'s products both have many flaws that people have been irritated about for a long time.
(Microsoft/Dice) frequently issue patches, however the issue solved is commonly not the big problem you wished they'd solve, and commonly makes problems worse.*
(Microsoft/Dice) has been shown up by a group of unpaid, open-source coders who made a better (product**/mod***, respectivily.)

* http://news.com.com/Critical+Windows+pa … 96041.html and http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6062026.html
**Apache
***Point of Existance

Last edited by Anfidurl (2006-09-11 23:21:34)

Nyte wrote:

So why do people keep insisting on the secureness of firefox VS internet explorer?

I'll tell you why, just so they can act like they know something.

I know I don't get annoying popups using Firefox. I know IE sucks ass.

I used to use IE but it kept crashing and wouldnt play media, so now i use firefox and i havent looked back.

IE was bloated with crap etc, and ill tell you, i know i didnt feel safe using it.

"I liken IE too a diseased crackwhore"

FIREFOX IS THE GREAT

Last edited by BF2Craglyeye (2006-09-11 23:55:48)

arson wrote:

I know I don't get annoying popups using Firefox. I know IE sucks ass.

I don't get popups with Opera. I DO get them with firefox.

Richard2000 wrote:

i use firefox because i dont want adware and malware and spyware on my computer
ie sucks for that shit

Say it with me.... safe browsing habits. I could surf the net with unpatched IE 5.0 and not get that shit. If you'd lay off the porn sites and astalavista, you'd be spyware free too.

xXGamingBugXx wrote:

IE 7 is lame, its copied FF with its tabbed browsing

And Firefox copied it from Opera. A good idea is just that.

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

I can't comment on IE7 vs Firefox 2.0, but I know that Firefox 1.5 is vastly superior (in terms of CSS support,  sercurity, and speed) than IE6.

The only fully CSS compliant mass-market browser out there is Opera... is anyone else detecting a theme here?

ghettoperson wrote:

Opera FTW!

WilhelmSissener wrote:

K, opera won, again!

NooBesT[FiN] wrote:

Opera wins...

You want a superior browsing client? One that kicks ass in all areas? One that has fewer unpatched vulnerablilites than IE, FF, and Safari combined? (links here, here, here, and opera is here) One that is FULLY (not 1 or 2, but fully) compliant with CSS? You use Opera. That's really all there is to it.

OPERA FTW!!!

Or perhaps, Cougar, some people have reasons that they prefer to use browsers other than Explorer.  For all the you're throwing shit on Firefox users, you're doing exactly the same thing that you're complaining about for a different product.

Nyte wrote:

Topic Title = IE 7.

I guess too many of you steal software and fail the Windows Genuine Advantage to even try IE 7.

And I guess you fail at making a fair comparison, since you referred to a specific version of one piece of software which isn't even on general release, and didn't mention which version of the other software you were comparing.  Still doesn't matter... Firefox 1.5 > IE7  and  Firefox 2.0 >>> IE7

As for Windows Genuine Advantage, don't assume... you know why....


And do you what else is the shit in Firefox 2.0?  It's highlighting spelling mistakes for me, with right click context suggest and add to dictionary. 

And Opera fans... remind me, where can I download the source code?  Also, how do you add extensions to opera?  And remind me, why would I want to trust my security to obscurity rather than having tons of programmers all wanting to make a name for themselves poring over the code?

edit: and great job on reading the RSS from this site, IE7...

Last edited by UnOriginalNuttah (2006-09-12 02:36:48)

Kmarion wrote:

RTG_ILLUSION wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I can run IE inside of firefox. So I guess I use them both. I am not a MS hater neither I am running on Vista rc1 now.

Dude where the fuck have you been?  August 2006 CTP is out.

Where the fuck have you been? RC1 , Is the Release client which would be build 5600 , that is the most recent..lol http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=34946
I am running 5600 Ultimate edition.
http://www.oe-hq.com/2/5600.gif

My bad you are right i just checked our msdn site and found it/  sorry.

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

RTG_ILLUSION wrote:

Who gives a shit anyway.  Microsoft has and will forever be on top.  The only thing that can stop Microsoft is Microsoft.  It has gone on far to long that way and noone will change.

I bet that's what people in the Roman Empire said before it collapsed...

One could argue that the world empire never collapses; its seat of power merely moves on.

Cougar wrote:

I have always preferred IE over the others.  I know IE inside and out and I know how to protect myself and my computer while using it.  I know how to repair it when it is broken and I know how to upgrade it when upgrades are available.  I am very familiar with the options, functions and features of IE and I really haven't ever run into a situation where I needed something IE didn't have.  I downloaded IE7 the other day and while it may not be original, it is an improvement over an already good and solid program.

With the knowledge I have of IE and the comfort level I have using it, give me a fucking reason why I would want to go download some poe-dunk web browser like FF, Opera or any other "free" browser.  Unless they have something to offer me that is pretty much going to make sit in my chair and shit all over myself in amazement, then I really have no desire to go learn a new program that offers minimal perks.

Also, FF was always wanting me to download plug ins and blocking shit I didn't want it to block for the whole 1 day I tried it.  I saw nothing spectacular about it.  I think most people use and promote FireFox for 4 simple reasons:

1. It makes them feel smart.  Even though they have no fucking clue what they are talking about. 
2. It makes them feel like their e-penis is 6 inches longer because they are using this "awesomely powerful web-browser" that allows to load and view web-pages .0000007 seconds faster than with IE.  Like I give a shit.
3. They think the commercials are cool, therefore using FF makes them cool among their peers and they feel the need to spew the information of which browser they are using to the entire world.  As if we give a shit.
4. Because Maddox told them to change their "Bullshit browser to Firefox".  Because a fat, hairy dumbass from Utah knows everything and is never wrong. 

Get over yourselves.  FireFox junkies are worse than trekkies.  Just shut the fuck up.  No one gives a shit about what browser you use to surf gay porn while your parents are at work.

I use both IE and Firefox. I know how to fix IE, but I never have to fix Firefox. Therefore, I run IE only when the rare video or other content comes up that requires IE to display. It sort of falls under "why commonly use carpet that requires more maintenance?"

Use what browser you want. I honestly don't give a crap. Arguing over the differences between PC web browsers is like the interdenominational bickering that goes on in Christianity and Islam. And perhaps if you checked your spelling, you'd realize the word is podunk, not poe-dunk. Sorry, but I do occasionally feel an urge to exercise a bit of grammar-Naziing.

1. No, Firefox does not contribute to my opinion of my intelligence. Yes, I know what I'm talking about.
2. My 'e-penis' is satisfactoraly amplified by my Battlefield stats. I don't need to add an internet browser to the mix.
3. I think the commercials are silly. It's the end results of software use that attract my attention. Notice that not all Firefox users dump FF icons into their avatars or signatures.
4. And you do know everything and are never wrong?

"Get over yourselves?" Maybe I'm overreacting, but "Pot. Kettle. Black." And I care that you use IE and not Firefox? What is there now to make you any different than a Firefox junkie heaping shit on IE? This thread was started on the basis of flaming detractors of IE. Who honestly didn't expect likewise responses from the other camp?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-09-12 07:41:03)

It seems the comparison between Microsoft and Dice was spot on. Read up.
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/12/2113218

Bubbalo wrote:

Or perhaps, Cougar, some people have reasons that they prefer to use browsers other than Explorer.  For all the you're throwing shit on Firefox users, you're doing exactly the same thing that you're complaining about for a different product.

Please point out where I said that FF was a shit, inferior, lame, or overall not a good program.  You, like others need to learn the difference between someone having an opinion and someone trying to spew thier opinion onto others as raw "factual" data.  I stated my opinions for why I like IE and why I dislike FF.  Others, on the other hand, prefer to state how FF is a supieror program and how IE is worthless and ineffective.  As always, I find it quite hilarious how anyone who disses FF is almost instantly jumped and forceably gang raped by a bunch of FF fanboys, citing that IE users don't know shit and are hypocrites because we may criticize something about FF, when 99% of the time, the arguement is started by FF users bashing on IE.  It's a browser, not a religion.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

I have always preferred IE over the others.  I know IE inside and out and I know how to protect myself and my computer while using it.  I know how to repair it when it is broken and I know how to upgrade it when upgrades are available.  I am very familiar with the options, functions and features of IE and I really haven't ever run into a situation where I needed something IE didn't have.  I downloaded IE7 the other day and while it may not be original, it is an improvement over an already good and solid program.

With the knowledge I have of IE and the comfort level I have using it, give me a fucking reason why I would want to go download some poe-dunk web browser like FF, Opera or any other "free" browser.  Unless they have something to offer me that is pretty much going to make sit in my chair and shit all over myself in amazement, then I really have no desire to go learn a new program that offers minimal perks.

Also, FF was always wanting me to download plug ins and blocking shit I didn't want it to block for the whole 1 day I tried it.  I saw nothing spectacular about it.  I think most people use and promote FireFox for 4 simple reasons:

1. It makes them feel smart.  Even though they have no fucking clue what they are talking about. 
2. It makes them feel like their e-penis is 6 inches longer because they are using this "awesomely powerful web-browser" that allows to load and view web-pages .0000007 seconds faster than with IE.  Like I give a shit.
3. They think the commercials are cool, therefore using FF makes them cool among their peers and they feel the need to spew the information of which browser they are using to the entire world.  As if we give a shit.
4. Because Maddox told them to change their "Bullshit browser to Firefox".  Because a fat, hairy dumbass from Utah knows everything and is never wrong. 

Get over yourselves.  FireFox junkies are worse than trekkies.  Just shut the fuck up.  No one gives a shit about what browser you use to surf gay porn while your parents are at work.

I use both IE and Firefox. I know how to fix IE, but I never have to fix Firefox. Therefore, I run IE only when the rare video or other content comes up that requires IE to display. It sort of falls under "why commonly use carpet that requires more maintenance?"

Like I said, I prefer IE.  Do I care why you prefer FF?  Not really, but I will state my opinion as to why I like IE.  Funny thing is, for someone who states below that "I honestly don't give a crap", you seem to care about why I would "commonly use carpet that requires more maintence".  I'll tell you why.  Because I can, DIPSHIT!

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Use what browser you want. I honestly don't give a crap. Arguing over the differences between PC web browsers is like the interdenominational bickering that goes on in Christianity and Islam. And perhaps if you checked your spelling, you'd realize the word is podunk, not poe-dunk. Sorry, but I do occasionally feel an urge to exercise a bit of grammar-Naziing.

You just grammer nazied me on a slang word?  Shut the fuck up.  Being a grammer nazi doesn't make you look smart or witty, it makes you look like a douche bag.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

1. No, Firefox does not contribute to my opinion of my intelligence. Yes, I know what I'm talking about.
2. My 'e-penis' is satisfactoraly amplified by my Battlefield stats. I don't need to add an internet browser to the mix.
3. I think the commercials are silly. It's the end results of software use that attract my attention. Notice that not all Firefox users dump FF icons into their avatars or signatures.
4. And you do know everything and are never wrong?

Let me put it this way.  How many IE users do you see going around advertising the fact that they use IE, be it by their signatures, avatars, userbars, desktop backgrounds, even SHIRTS!?  Very very few, if any.  Why is this?  Because IE users click on the icon and do their business and are done with it.   They don't feel the need to cram the fact that their browser looks slightly different from your browser down everyone's throat.  It's a fucking browser for crying out loud.  Find me someone who gets pussy for using FireFox over IE and I'll start advertising FF.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"Get over yourselves?" Maybe I'm overreacting, but "Pot. Kettle. Black." And I care that you use IE and not Firefox? What is there now to make you any different than a Firefox junkie heaping shit on IE? This thread was started on the basis of flaming detractors of IE. Who honestly didn't expect likewise responses from the other camp?

Maybe I'm overacting, but "Huge, Flaming, Homo."  The differnce is, that this is the first time I have ever done it.  All anyone has to do is join any random forum and type "I use IE and like it." and FF users come flying off the handle.  Even at work the other day, I was standing at the smoke pit discussing the IE7 I just downloaded and some idiot I didn't even know comes up and interupts our conversation with the comment "You guys know that IE is crap right?  Change you stuff to FireFox.".  Honestly, I'm suprised I still have a job after telling that guy to go get bent on a dick.  Also note that I attacked FF users, not the program.  And tell me I'm wrong about at least 80% of FF users.

Cougar wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Or perhaps, Cougar, some people have reasons that they prefer to use browsers other than Explorer.  For all the you're throwing shit on Firefox users, you're doing exactly the same thing that you're complaining about for a different product.

Please point out where I said that FF was a shit, inferior, lame, or overall not a good program.  You, like others need to learn the difference between someone having an opinion and someone trying to spew thier opinion onto others as raw "factual" data.  I stated my opinions for why I like IE and why I dislike FF.  Others, on the other hand, prefer to state how FF is a supieror program and how IE is worthless and ineffective.  As always, I find it quite hilarious how anyone who disses FF is almost instantly jumped and forceably gang raped by a bunch of FF fanboys, citing that IE users don't know shit and are hypocrites because we may criticize something about FF, when 99% of the time, the arguement is started by FF users bashing on IE.  It's a browser, not a religion.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Cougar wrote:

I have always preferred IE over the others.  I know IE inside and out and I know how to protect myself and my computer while using it.  I know how to repair it when it is broken and I know how to upgrade it when upgrades are available.  I am very familiar with the options, functions and features of IE and I really haven't ever run into a situation where I needed something IE didn't have.  I downloaded IE7 the other day and while it may not be original, it is an improvement over an already good and solid program.

With the knowledge I have of IE and the comfort level I have using it, give me a fucking reason why I would want to go download some poe-dunk web
browser like FF, Opera or any other "free" browser.  Unless they have something to offer me that is pretty much going to make sit in my chair and shit all over myself in amazement, then I really have no desire to go learn a new program that offers minimal perks.

Also, FF was always wanting me to download plug ins and blocking shit I didn't want it to block for the whole 1 day I tried it.  I saw nothing spectacular about it.  I think most people use and promote FireFox for 4 simple reasons:

1. It makes them feel smart.  Even though they have no fucking clue what they are talking about. 
2. It makes them feel like their e-penis is 6 inches longer because they are using this "awesomely powerful web-browser" that allows to load and view web-pages .0000007 seconds faster than with IE.  Like I give a shit.
3. They think the commercials are cool, therefore using FF makes them cool among their peers and they feel the need to spew the information of which browser they are using to the entire world.  As if we give a shit.
4. Because Maddox told them to change their "Bullshit browser to Firefox".  Because a fat, hairy dumbass from Utah knows everything and is never wrong. 

Get over yourselves.  FireFox junkies are worse than trekkies.  Just shut the fuck up.  No one gives a shit about what browser you use to surf gay porn while your parents are at work.

I use both IE and Firefox. I know how to fix IE, but I never have to fix Firefox. Therefore, I run IE only when the rare video or other content comes up that requires IE to display. It sort of falls under "why commonly use carpet that requires more maintenance?"

Like I said, I prefer IE.  Do I care why you prefer FF?  Not really, but I will state my opinion as to why I like IE.  Funny thing is, for someone who states below that "I honestly don't give a crap", you seem to care about why I would "commonly use carpet that requires more maintence".  I'll tell you why.  Because I can, DIPSHIT!

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Use what browser you want. I honestly don't give a crap. Arguing over the differences between PC web browsers is like the interdenominational bickering that goes on in Christianity and Islam. And perhaps if you checked your spelling, you'd realize the word is podunk, not poe-dunk. Sorry, but I do occasionally feel an urge to exercise a bit of grammar-Naziing.

You just grammer nazied me on a slang word?  Shut the fuck up.  Being a grammer nazi doesn't make you look smart or witty, it makes you look like a douche bag.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

1. No, Firefox does not contribute to my opinion of my intelligence. Yes, I know what I'm talking about.
2. My 'e-penis' is satisfactoraly amplified by my Battlefield stats. I don't need to add an internet browser to the mix.
3. I think the commercials are silly. It's the end results of software use that attract my attention. Notice that not all Firefox users dump FF icons into their avatars or signatures.
4. And you do know everything and are never wrong?

Let me put it this way.  How many IE users do you see going around advertising the fact that they use IE, be it by their signatures, avatars, userbars, desktop backgrounds, even SHIRTS!?  Very very few, if any.  Why is this?  Because IE users click on the icon and do their business and are done with it.   They don't feel the need to cram the fact that their browser looks slightly different from your browser down everyone's throat.  It's a fucking browser for crying out loud.  Find me someone who gets pussy for using FireFox over IE and I'll start advertising FF.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"Get over yourselves?" Maybe I'm overreacting, but "Pot. Kettle. Black." And I care that you use IE and not Firefox? What is there now to make you any different than a Firefox junkie heaping shit on IE? This thread was started on the basis of flaming detractors of IE. Who honestly didn't expect likewise responses from the other camp?

Maybe I'm overacting, but "Huge, Flaming, Homo."  The differnce is, that this is the first time I have ever done it.  All anyone has to do is join any random forum and type "I use IE and like it." and FF users come flying off the handle.  Even at work the other day, I was standing at the smoke pit discussing the IE7 I just downloaded and some idiot I didn't even know comes up and interupts our conversation with the comment "You guys know that IE is crap right?  Change you stuff to FireFox.".  Honestly, I'm suprised I still have a job after telling that guy to go get bent on a dick.  Also note that I attacked FF users, not the program.  And tell me I'm wrong about at least 80% of FF users.

MY FUCKING HERO!!

Can we do with out flaming and try and stay on topic.

Peace Boris