RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6870|Somewhere else

This is one of the few forums I ever go to on the entire internet, so I have a guestion. In a world thats, scientifically and technically speaking, overpopulated three fold shouldn't we have some sort of measure that demands population control?

We have homeless people, children born unwanted by deadbeat druggie mothers, and numerous other undesireable leeches in our own country, wouldnt it be easier to have some sort of program that makes dangerous felons and repeat drug offenders be sterilized, rather than give birth to a child which will surely be neglected and shown no other way of life than a bad one leading the child itself to do the same?

Maybe even make the death penalty more applicable to more offenses? Anyone guilty of serious or repeated sex crimes should be put to death. No one can argue there.

EDIT: IM just asking if the government should be more concerned about the population and if there should be a control in the government for it.

Last edited by RoosterCantrell (2006-09-13 14:00:33)

PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6918|Portland, OR USA
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6870|Somewhere else

yeah, I saw that topic. its a good one. but idiots will still breed. im just wondering if anyone else thinks the gov. should step in the matter
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6972|SE London

Western countries don't have an issue with overpopulation. In Europe the population is actually falling slightly. Most agree this is due to more widely available contraception combined with the fact that people don't want children till they are older these days, because of careers.

In China there already are population control measures in place. If you have more than one child, they tax the shit out of you. A good idea I reckon. More less developed countries should adopt this approach.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6870|Somewhere else

true.  Hell, if we are getting involved in other countries matters, might as well do population control (without the bombs and maming).  Why dont we spend some of are "humanitarion aid" on condoms and birth control?  when I see those commercials that say "only 43 cents a day can save this child" I say "sure, shoot the parents in the fucknig head and Ill give you twice that a day".  why make more kids when they cant even get enough food for themselves (the parents)?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6933|Texas - Bigger than France
This disturbs me immensely.

Here's another way of phrasing this:
Bullets are cheaper than social programs.

BTW My ideas on the death penalty (Texas yeehaaaa) - I support it for death penalty offenses.  I do not support life sentences.  Shorten the term or death penalty.  So indirectly I agree...but have one bone to pick over.

The reason this disturbs me concerns deciding the limits.  What qualifies as a leech on society?  Who decides?  How can it possibly be fair?
JaMDuDe
Member
+69|7168
Lets just nuke em.
SuperSlowYo
slow as you go
+124|6951|Canaduhhh.. West Toast
Soilent Green...
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6978|Allentown, PA, USA

PuckMercury wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=470346

yes
While I agree on that I dont agree on some kind of population contol like is done over in the PRC.
Knifey McStabstab
Don't lock my topic!
+32|6899|Indiana

SuperSlowYo wrote:

Soilent Green...
...IS PEEEPOLE!!!
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,068|7162|PNW

Eventually, some plague will come along to wipe out a good chunk of the world's population. Africa is already somewhat supressed by one of these. Hopefully we'll get into the technological phase of self-sustaining colonization of space, before something drastic happens to the homeworld.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6918|Portland, OR USA
well of course there can't just be some blanket intelligence test, but I do think there needs to be some sore of qualification to bring a life into the world.  Seriously, any idiot can have a kid - the problem is any idiot has a kid, they have many kids, in fact, they have more kids than productive members of society.  We're breeding ourselves out of the gene pool.

Some consideration needs to be given to the capacity of the individual or dyad to bring and support a life into this world.  Such capacity encompasses not only fiscal ability to support a child, but emotional capacity and yes, even intelligence.  Do I portend to know ANY foolproof way to develop and impliment this so as NOT to simply be a fascist?  No, absolutely not.  But I support the theory.  I just don't know of a way to do it that wouldn't be generally absurd.

And before everyone and their brother starts talking about Arian supremacy and how I'm a nazi blah blah blah, I'm not saying that you need to be rich, or a genius, or any of that - just able to support a child.  If you're homeless and on welfare - you don't really need to be thinking about adding children to your load.  There is a middle ground, and yes it needs to be explored.

Yes, the PRC does not quite do it right.  I applaud the underlying thought process, but not at all the implimentation.

In any event, this is one of our present methods of population control.  The REALLY pathetic part is the slag in this instance is still around - and able to continue to breed.  Where's a Darwin Award when you need it?  Personally, I think we can do a bit better.  Like it or not, offended or not - that's 100% fucking true.  Refute that.

Last edited by PuckMercury (2006-09-13 20:24:36)

AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|7035|Seattle, WA

RoosterCantrell wrote:

. In a world thats, scientifically and technically speaking, overpopulated three fold .
So I have a question, why do you say that the world is overpopulated threefold....there is a LOT more land space than there are people.  Maybe RESOURCES wise, you might have a sliver of a case, but going there, there are a lot of resources that aren't going to run out in the near future.  But EVENTUALLY population will reach a max, but it isn't anytime soon.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7167|Antwerp, Flanders

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

RoosterCantrell wrote:

. In a world thats, scientifically and technically speaking, overpopulated three fold .
So I have a question, why do you say that the world is overpopulated threefold....there is a LOT more land space than there are people.  Maybe RESOURCES wise, you might have a sliver of a case, but going there, there are a lot of resources that aren't going to run out in the near future.  But EVENTUALLY population will reach a max, but it isn't anytime soon.
Actually three fold overpopulation is a rather optimistic view of the situation.

If you're planning to rape this planet for every stinking cent she's got before eradicating ourselves then yes, you are right Wesker.

If you are planning on survival and are trying to create a kind of balance with everything else on this planet to assure that there actually will be a future for the entire planet then no, you are sadly mistaken.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6909|Montucky
There is a family not to far from my house, they've got 8 kids, 4 dogs and a shit load of cats. I've put the father in jail a few times since i started working for the Sheriff's department. Mommy doesn't work all they do is sit around doing drugs and collect money from the government. Now if that isn't a leech on societies ass.. i don't know what is.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7107
Funny. In taiwan the birthrate is declining... well its up to sexy ninja to repopulate
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AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|7035|Seattle, WA

Rosse_modest wrote:

Actually three fold overpopulation is a rather optimistic view of the situation.

If you are planning on survival and are trying to create a kind of balance with everything else on this planet to assure that there actually will be a future for the entire planet then no, you are sadly mistaken.
OK....well take this little factoid IF you will.  Take ALL the people in the world right now, yes ALL of them.  And divide them up into say groups/families of 4 people each.  They each get a 2000sq ft house on a 1/2 acre of land.  We're talking everyone.  And put em side by side (yeah not realistic) and do you know how much space that would take up.........wouldn't even fill up Texas.  It would barely fill up 1/2-3/4 of Texas.  Of course people need jobs, commercial area, entertainment, etc, but all the worry warts out there about population going OUT OF CONTROL are themselves out of control.  There is PLENTY of room for development.  I fail to see how I am sadly mistaken in thinking that there is THIS much room.  I do understand that there is an upper limit (duh) but that won't be for a while (at least until we can make space colonies  )
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7167|Antwerp, Flanders

'AlbertWesker[RE wrote:

(at least until we can make space colonies  )
Don't worry, we will never get that far.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7157|UK
You dont just stop someone from having babies, the lose of that goes against our ability to comprehend, its our nature to breed. Infact having children normally turns people away from crime because having a child is something that is very special. There is also very little need for the west to control its FALLING population. In reply to Albert population is attempted to be controled because of food and other resources, in the west we dont have these problems and we waste terribly, however in the majority of other countries that isnt the case.
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6910|Πάϊ
ever thought of dying to make some room for the rest of us?
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jsnipy
...
+3,277|6913|...

It has been said the homosexuality is one of nature's forms of population control. (ps: I'm not saying this in some assholish or jokingly way).

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-09-14 02:45:54)

velocitychaos
Member
+26|6887|Brisbane Australia
You may want to take a look at "Eugenics". Promoting a cleaner and healthier world by improving the human gene pool. The American  and British governments, among others no doubt, were allegedly practicing this in the early 20th century before and around the time of WW 1. Then Germany jumped on board but alas took it too far or not far enough, depending on your opinions. I think eugenics, to a degree are still practiced by leading first world governments to perhaps a lesser scale according to ethical laws.
I really don't know that much about it but since you brought it up I thought I'd point your interests in this direction. See what ya think.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,068|7162|PNW

Rosse_modest wrote:

'AlbertWesker[RE wrote:

(at least until we can make space colonies  )
Don't worry, we will never get that far.
It's been thought that we'd never achieve flight.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6952
Worldwide on child policy.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7167|Antwerp, Flanders

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

'AlbertWesker[RE wrote:

(at least until we can make space colonies  )
Don't worry, we will never get that far.
It's been thought that we'd never achieve flight.
Yeah well the world has travelled that much further down the shithole since then. I'm not contesting human intellect can devise a means of successfully colonozing other planets, but it is unlikely we will get that far because we will have screwed ourselves over so much we'd end up in the dark ages again before that. And if we DO manage to get that far, we should stop ourselves from spreading to other planets. We don't even have the balls to make this one work, so I fail to see why we should let such a disgrace for a species spread further than it already has.

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