Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85
Ever since they made claymores indestructible by hand grenades, I'd say everyone has experienced games ruined by claymores. (namely on karkand and warlord, but all urban maps can suffer from it) So what if they made it so claymores won't explode five seconds after you die? I think that would help alot of the spamming, and you know once you kill the sniper just sit still for five seconds and you're good.
-Solv3r-
Heia den som vinner!
+115|7016|Oslo, Norway

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ever since they made claymores indestructible by hand grenades, I'd say everyone has experienced games ruined by claymores. (namely on karkand and warlord, but all urban maps can suffer from it)
Nope. I just avoid them...
2tuff
Positive Karma Here!
+357|7235
Not a bad idea, not at all....but the claymores would stay there for about 2 mins.....unactive.....just to keep you guessing....

I like the idea....
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85

-Solv3r- wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ever since they made claymores indestructible by hand grenades, I'd say everyone has experienced games ruined by claymores. (namely on karkand and warlord, but all urban maps can suffer from it)
Nope. I just avoid them...
How do you cap the TV station flag on Warlord?
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|7037|Florida
plenty of ways to get into it other than the stairway
jamesb
Joined BF2s in November 2005
+133|7183|Doncaster, England
Make sure you have a medic in your squad,
then he goes in last.

He might not get full capture points but he gets all the revives.
-Solv3r-
Heia den som vinner!
+115|7016|Oslo, Norway

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

-Solv3r- wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ever since they made claymores indestructible by hand grenades, I'd say everyone has experienced games ruined by claymores. (namely on karkand and warlord, but all urban maps can suffer from it)
Nope. I just avoid them...
How do you cap the TV station flag on Warlord?
Avoiding the claymores..? Walk on the right side, have you never noticed it says in Swedish: "Denna siden mot fienden"? Which means "This side against the enemy". Well, walk on the other side then...
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|7104|Ohio
dude i always play with FF ON. Like Adicted-to-games Warlord.
KylieTastic
Games, Girls, Guinness
+85|6911|Cambridge, UK

If they were going to change them they ahould make them destructible (not just hand grenades, but  by anything if shot enough) - It would be way more real this way than 'mystical' ones that know when the owner died.

Also a sniper can set one up to defend not just him but his squad - this would disadvantage the squad.

Also if shooting them enough set them off then a sniper could set them off as a remote weapon - and instead of always having to wait a static 5 seconds - the time it took to destroy clays in your path would be dependent on how mnay in your squad and how well it worked together.

Last edited by KylieTastic (2006-09-16 07:33:18)

Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7166|67.222.138.85
No, on Warlord you can easily defend the flag with two claymores from one sniper. One right by the flag facing the doorway , and another right by the flag facing out towards the balcony to get people who grapple up there. I would also be in favor ofmaking them destructible, but I think that this would make them so that they would be used in self-defense, instead of spamming them while toe-to-toe with an assault rifle, because that would no longer get you anywhere.

btw, I'm a sniper.
lagerfool
Member
+23|7224|SE Virgina
https://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/LAGERFOOL/Claymore.jpg
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6999|byah
i say all weapons should be able to activate the claymore and the activation time should be like 5sec. Then snipers need to rethink where they put it so you can blast snipers with their own claymore.
BandoIruka
Member
+1|6953
I had a noob sniper bunny hopping and dropping claymores around the flag i was trying to cap. Turned out he killed himself with his own claymores and teamkilled the man that killed me when he tried to recap the flag back.

Can't do much about getting killed by claymores if you walk infront of one... pehaps they should reduce the damage and detection radius. Otherwise always have a medic nearby when advancing
norge
J-10 and a coke please
+18|6929
they need to be destroyable, and a helluva lot more sensitive when they throw em down, because IRL u toss a claymore and its gonna blow up.  they take a long time to set up too.
jimmanycricket
EBC Member
+56|7114|Cambridge, England
The claymore is generally remotly detonated by the use of a trip wire, not set of by sensing a person infront of it, plus they have a 100m blast radius...

https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m18-Fig4.gif

Last edited by jimmanycricket (2006-09-19 10:08:49)

Dex Luther
Member
+32|6897|Canukastan
They should add a delay to setting Claymores and C4. You pull the explosive out and click and hold to set it. You'd have to hold for 5 seconds.

Also they should add a stiffer penalty for killing your self with C4. It's kinda lame how people have such a complete disregard for their own lives that they are willing to run at you, throw some c4 down, and then blow you both to hell. Maybe a penalty such as double ticket loss (your team loses two tickets instead of one for your stupid action) and a two minute respawn time for that player.

If you continue to play the suicide bomber, then the penalties should continue to double or something. If the problem persists the player should be auto kicked.
roger smith
Member
+3|7225
make them destructable, period.
Fallschirmjager10
Member
+36|6919
we can simply learn to avoid them
MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7234|EUR

Fallschirmjager10 wrote:

we can simply learn to avoid them
Agreed or get a engineer to scoop them up.
turkeybacon
Member
+50|6905|Dragon Valley

Dex Luther wrote:

They should add a delay to setting Claymores and C4. You pull the explosive out and click and hold to set it. You'd have to hold for 5 seconds.

Also they should add a stiffer penalty for killing your self with C4. It's kinda lame how people have such a complete disregard for their own lives that they are willing to run at you, throw some c4 down, and then blow you both to hell. Maybe a penalty such as double ticket loss (your team loses two tickets instead of one for your stupid action) and a two minute respawn time for that player.

If you continue to play the suicide bomber, then the penalties should continue to double or something. If the problem persists the player should be auto kicked.
It would suck for specops trying to blow a tank though. I swear they never reverse until AFTER you lay 2 C4 charges and start pulling out the detonator...
iNeedUrFace4Soup
fuck it
+348|7005

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

-Solv3r- wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ever since they made claymores indestructible by hand grenades, I'd say everyone has experienced games ruined by claymores. (namely on karkand and warlord, but all urban maps can suffer from it)
Nope. I just avoid them...
How do you cap the TV station flag on Warlord?
Grappling hook.
https://i.imgur.com/jM2Yp.gif
name1ess
Member
+8|7209|Newcastle, Aus.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

-Solv3r- wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Ever since they made claymores indestructible by hand grenades, I'd say everyone has experienced games ruined by claymores. (namely on karkand and warlord, but all urban maps can suffer from it)
Nope. I just avoid them...
How do you cap the TV station flag on Warlord?
Zipline, Grappling hook, parachute, go up ladder or stairs second, have a medic in your squad. many ways.
zer0fus10n
Member
+14|6970

Dex Luther wrote:

They should add a delay to setting Claymores and C4. You pull the explosive out and click and hold to set it. You'd have to hold for 5 seconds.

Also they should add a stiffer penalty for killing your self with C4. It's kinda lame how people have such a complete disregard for their own lives that they are willing to run at you, throw some c4 down, and then blow you both to hell. Maybe a penalty such as double ticket loss (your team loses two tickets instead of one for your stupid action) and a two minute respawn time for that player.

If you continue to play the suicide bomber, then the penalties should continue to double or something. If the problem persists the player should be auto kicked.
There's tactics to this game correct?
And you tell me that there's no tactics in car bombs they are quite a bright idea if you ask me for one of your teams tickets you could save 10's of tickets to stop the tank from spawn camping which results in your tickets going down further so, GO JIHAD JACK
Dex Luther
Member
+32|6897|Canukastan

turkeybacon wrote:

Dex Luther wrote:

They should add a delay to setting Claymores and C4. You pull the explosive out and click and hold to set it. You'd have to hold for 5 seconds.

Also they should add a stiffer penalty for killing your self with C4. It's kinda lame how people have such a complete disregard for their own lives that they are willing to run at you, throw some c4 down, and then blow you both to hell. Maybe a penalty such as double ticket loss (your team loses two tickets instead of one for your stupid action) and a two minute respawn time for that player.

If you continue to play the suicide bomber, then the penalties should continue to double or something. If the problem persists the player should be auto kicked.
It would suck for specops trying to blow a tank though. I swear they never reverse until AFTER you lay 2 C4 charges and start pulling out the detonator...
You've got a point there. But the Jihad c4 bombers are still lame.
roger smith
Member
+3|7225

MuseSeeker wrote:

Fallschirmjager10 wrote:

we can simply learn to avoid them
Agreed or get a engineer to scoop them up.
scoop um from a corner?  sometimes you really cant avoid them, sometimes snipers assault and "trap" the enemy team.  honestly this whole debate is retarded.  claymores are definitly a bad part of bf2.

heres what i think should be done in the interest of gameplay.

roger smith wrote:

Explosives

General
Engineers, snipers and spec ops should only be able to remove/pickup/destroy thier own explosives, or the enemies, but not teammates. Friendly mines/claymores/c4 should have a blue x, and your own should be yellow.

Mines
Enemy mines should be invisable unless a friendly engineer is "in range", then they should have a red x. Mines should be destructable, but should be half as strong as a commander asset.

C4
Enemy c4 should be visable but shouldnt have a red x. C4 should be able to be disabled by shooting it a couple times, or chucking a grenade near it.

Claymores
Enemy claymores should be visable but shouldnt have a red x unless a friendly engineer is "in range". Claymores should be able to be disabled by shooting them or chucking a grenade near them, given the fact that they use an ir sensor, its only fair.

Disable and take
Engineers should be able to disable c4. Snipers and spec ops should be able to pick up thier types of explosives.

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