Gates to new dimensions could be opened as early as next year!

2006-09-20 22:27:15

#26

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

Just to bring up something relatively related to my first post in this thread:

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/unnamednewbie13/doom2.png

$9.

Ah, remember the days of cheap computer games? Too bad they're up there with console titles now. And speaking of which...if only getting parents to buy cheap stuff during childhood was as easy as getting them to buy expensive stuff in adolescence. Always made me scratch my head, but maybe it had something to do with refining the personal art of conning.

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2006-09-20 22:29:02

#27

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6909|Montucky

I have doom2 on my work computer..

2006-09-20 22:30:48

#28

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

S3v3N wrote:
I have doom2 on my work computer..

Yeah, and not even conducting dimensional experiments on a remote Phobos/Deimos series of facilities that caused the Doom 1 scenario kept Earth safe for Doom 2. The poor bunny.

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2006-09-20 22:32:35

#29

oberst_enzian: Member; +234|7134|melb.au

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=325&objectid=10400645 wrote:
"We don't know what 95 per cent of the universe is made of - which is a bit embarrassing for a subject that claims to be fundamental," Dr Cox said.

"There is dark matter. It is all over the place but we have no idea what it is."

"There is also something called dark energy, and that is an even bigger question.

"It makes up about 70 per cent of the energy in the universe, but again we have absolutely no idea what it is.

I <3 physics.

2006-09-20 22:34:32

#30

Wolfren: Member; +6|7055|USA

Have any one these doctors even seen a black hole, nope, much less study it. How in the hell will they know what will happen if one just pops up in there chamber, for all we know black holes might send out enough gamma rays to kill everyone on the planet when they are formed. They have no research to make their calculations on so how can they even try to come up with some odds even with supercomputers. I think they are opening pandoras box.

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2006-09-20 22:37:13

#31

basetballjones: Member; +30|7140

I was reading this on the ap, it looks promising. I can tell you from my limited education so far as an engineer that physicists can very accurately calculate anything if they have enough integers to input into a formula. I am sure there will be no failure. Architects did not design this thing, scientists did, and they know better what to expect and how to handle it. The first particle accelerators scared the hell out of the world, I have one less than 150 miles from me in TX that is retired now, but people left the fucking state when they built it!

Black holes are not what alot of us older peeps learned in school. It has been shown that they are not the giant, space sucking, world eating monsters we once thought. It has also been shown that objects can even gravitate all the way to the event horizon(edge of the black hole's throat) and then leave again. Telescopic images have shown unknown, completely new parts of the universe on the other end of a wormhole, oddly mimicing star trek, but there, nonetheless. Black holes may even be able to be controlled through environment, so we may one day travel through manmade, miniature black holes.. that is, if we can learn how to keep from being minimized into singularity.

For anyone interested, scientist have already broken many secrets of space/time and dimensional theory. Wormholes, Dark matter, extra dimensions, and very ikely; time travel, are already a reality. Check teh wikipedia for these subjects and follow their links, you may just be amazed at what we have learned in the past 5 years.

2006-09-20 22:37:31

#32

BMW330i: Banned; +20|6854|Montreal, Canada

This could cause a rip in spacetime and cause a mini-black hole. Check out the Fermi Paradox on wikipedia.

2006-09-20 22:40:49

#33

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

basetballjones wrote:
I was reading this on the ap, it looks promising. I can tell you from my limited education so far as an engineer that physicists can very accurately calculate anything if they have enough integers to input into a formula. I am sure there will be no failure. Architects did not design this thing, scientists did, and they know better what to expect and how to handle it. The first particle accelerators scared the hell out of the world, I have one less than 150 miles from me in TX that is retired now, but people left the fucking state when they built it!

Black holes are not what alot of us older peeps learned in school. It has been shown that they are not the giant, space sucking, world eating monsters we once thought. It has also been shown that objects can even gravitate all the way to the event horizon(edge of the black hole's throat) and then leave again. Telescopic images have shown unknown, completely new parts of the universe on the other end of a wormhole, oddly mimicing star trek, but there, nonetheless. Black holes may even be able to be controlled through environment, so we may one day travel through manmade, miniature black holes.. that is, if we can learn how to keep from being minimized into singularity.

For anyone interested, scientist have already broken many secrets of space/time and dimensional theory. Wormholes, Dark matter, extra dimensions, and very ikely; time travel, are already a reality. Check teh wikipedia for these subjects and follow their links, you may just be amazed at what we have learned in the past 5 years.

That's all very interesting, but what works out on paper doesn't necessarily turn out the way it was planned in real life. Despite the keen intellect of our leading physicists, they'll be the first ones to tell you that they actually know very little about how the universe works, and that alot of existing theory is just that: theory.

Do we really need to take unnecessary risks while our species is confined to the homeworld? I'd much rather such experiments be conducted in deep space.

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2006-09-20 22:42:46

#34

basetballjones: Member; +30|7140

BMW330i wrote:
This could cause a rip in spacetime and cause a mini-black hole. Check out the Fermi Paradox on wikipedia.

This is true, but the risk is calculated in with the ratio already given. String theory and quantam physics have already placed rips in the quantam fabric throughout the universe, they are thus far static and do not grow nor seem to interfere any more than black holes. Of interest some theorize that rips in space time are actually the location of a used up black hole (all black holes consume themselves eventually).

2006-09-20 22:51:57

#35

basetballjones: Member; +30|7140

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Do we really need to take unnecessary risks while our species is confined to the homeworld? I'd much rather such experiments be conducted in deep space.

We may be looking at the answer to this issue right now, but i do agree that deep space would be a more appropriate place.

Scientist will admit they know very little about the universe, but they know alot about universal laws. The same formulae that map the characteristics of gravity on earth, define the characteristics of objects elsewhere. The laws that apply to light in our system are carried throughout the galaxy.
Some laws are universal throughout the universe and we can use this knowledge to very accurately predict or theorize. The only way to "prove" that dimensional travel is possible is to do it, yes.. but if the set, known formulae prove it to be true, then it is 99.9% likely true. Much in the same way we know that this chemical will react with this chemical to form the molecules of this chemical, we know how nature acts even when we can't see it easily.

2006-09-20 22:53:06

#36

Sgt.Zubie: Member; +77|6966

I for one intend to give these scientist's a good stern talking too! I attempted these same experiments in my bathtub using an old inner tube and a paint ball gun...

2006-09-20 22:54:04

#37

MURcarnage: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!; +86|7049|San Francisco, CA

Another Terran Empire? Another Starfleet?

2006-09-20 22:55:18

#38

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

basetballjones wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Do we really need to take unnecessary risks while our species is confined to the homeworld? I'd much rather such experiments be conducted in deep space.
We may be looking at the answer to this issue right now, but i do agree that deep space would be a more appropriate place.

Scientist will admit they know very little about the universe, but they know alot about universal laws. The same formulae that map the characteristics of gravity on earth, define the characteristics of objects elsewhere. The laws that apply to light in our system are carried throughout the galaxy.
Some laws are universal throughout the universe and we can use this knowledge to very accurately predict or theorize. The only way to "prove" that dimensional travel is possible is to do it, yes.. but if the set, known formulae prove it to be true, then it is 99.9% likely true. Much in the same way we know that this chemical will react with this chemical to form the molecules of this chemical, we know how nature acts even when we can't see it easily.

Exactly. Experiments like these should be conducted off-world, for whatever protection that offers.

If there was a 99.99999999% chance you wouldn't get AIDS from licking a freshly-dropped penny to see how it tasted, would you still do it? Even if you didn't, you may contract some other or even as of yet unknown disease. And besides which, "universal law" as known by human science seems to change from age to age.

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2006-09-20 22:55:42

#39

PspRpg-7: -; +961|7089

stryyker wrote:
i can recreate it cheaper

i need an M80, a tactical Nuke, and a coke can

I could do it more efficient with a Bulgarian prostitute and a frisbee.

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2006-09-20 22:57:52

#40

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6909|Montucky

https://www.wegotcards.com/cards/friends/insults/nerd.GIF

2006-09-20 23:03:27

#41

Obiwan: Go Cards !!; +196|7085|The Ville

* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.

* The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance.

ummm. What if they miscaculated ?

2006-09-20 23:05:47

#42

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

S3v3N wrote:
http://www.wegotcards.com/cards/friends … s/nerd.GIF

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/unnamednewbie13/carvey.jpg

Nerds are cool...and dangerous.

2006-09-20 23:06:11

#43

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7022|Finland

Obiwan wrote:
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.

If that actually would happen, so that there would be time to announce that the world is going to be sucked into another dimension, in Geneva nonetheless, what would the scientists say?

"Oops?"

I need around tree fiddy.

2006-09-20 23:07:21

#44

wombatman4: Member; +4|6972

all that to figure out how the world was made. I wonder if when their attempt to make a "big bang" fails they'll realize that Someone made everything. and that when you smash things together really really fast a new universe is discovered. it's either that or they'll make up a new theory.

2006-09-20 23:11:12

#45

Havazn: Member; +39|7085|van.ca

The atomic bomb was theorized to burn off earth's entire atmosphere. They did it anyways.

With science there is only one way to find out. And besides, at the rate in which people are killing each other, total annhilation might not be a bad thing. Certainly levels the playing field. Everyone loses.

2006-09-20 23:13:11

#46

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7165|Noizyland

That just proves the worth of the New Zealad media dosn't it?

[Blinking eyes thing]
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tzyon

2006-09-20 23:14:54

#47

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|7066|Canberra, AUS

What they are looking for (I think) are either sparticles (supersymmetry) or missing gravitons. Either of these two would be circumstantial proof of M theory and other dimensions.

But saying 'why don't you spend it son something else' is silly. These people's life dreams are based on the results of this machine (a lot of people), and you come a long and shout 'no, you have to give your money to someone else'?

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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2006-09-20 23:21:31

#48

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

Havazn wrote:
The atomic bomb was theorized to burn off earth's entire atmosphere. They did it anyways.

With science there is only one way to find out. And besides, at the rate in which people are killing each other, total annhilation might not be a bad thing. Certainly levels the playing field. Everyone loses.

But why here? How many times will we get lucky with the proverbial atomic bomb, while all of our proverbial eggs are all still in one proverbial basket? Tin-foil hats my ass. All this is like a proverbial unsupervised monkey in a nuclear power plant's control room.

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2006-09-20 23:24:46

#49

IntrebuloN: Member; +8|6861

stryyker wrote:
i can recreate it cheaper

i need an M80, a tactical Nuke, and a coke can

laff, the potential energy that they theorize will be created in these experiements is equivalent to 30x the power of the hiroshima a-bomb

and even at that power, the physical size of this "mini-bang black whole of energy" will be far too small to be seen with the naked eye

the benefits far outweigh the risks, in the right hands.

can you imagine powering NYC for 24 hours with half a gram of "dark matter" as they call it? and @ 100% efficiency...that's 95% better then nuclear power @ only 5% efficiency

100% efficiency means no pollution, nothing wasted at all, and no byproducts either, think about that

the reason the facility is underground is not for fear of explosion, it was just the most convenient and cost effective since the LEP was there previous to the LHC

another reason might be the radioactivity related to accelerators...

2006-09-20 23:27:34

#50

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,068|7163|PNW

I suppose if they can invent scrolls of town portal without flooding North America with hellish demons...

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basetballjones wrote:

BMW330i wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

basetballjones wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

S3v3N wrote:

Obiwan wrote:

Havazn wrote:

stryyker wrote:

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