while im sticking with bf2, i thought i'd give bf2142 a go. its great- a few seconds after i joined one of the node servers, i crashed FTW!
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Are you disappointed with BF 2142?
| Absolutely. It sucks more than a black hole. | 20% | 20% - 84 | ||||
| I expected crap...and they hit a bullseye. | 23% | 23% - 94 | ||||
| Somewhat. It's no BF1942, but they'll fix it eventually | 18% | 18% - 76 | ||||
| No. It's good enough. | 23% | 23% - 96 | ||||
| It's the best BF ever. I've already preordered it. | 14% | 14% - 57 | ||||
| Total: 407 | ||||||
Yeah, it's more crash-prone than 1.4
I reiterate: I'm not saying 2142 is bad. I don't think it's great, it's just OK. It could be better. You can't expect much from a rushed game made in a year, built on an engine whose own developers have never fixed. It's just a matter of DICE and EA almost EXPECTING us to pay them money to continue enjoying the BF series. Instead of keeping BF2 alive, giving it patches etc, they just kill it off with a mediocre final patch and a reminder to pre-order 2142.
Dex Luther, if dolphin diving and bunny hopping and prone spamming were/are exploits, then shouldn't DICE have caught them before ever releasing BF2 in the first place?
EDIT: Yes I know some exploits don't make themselves as obvious, but if the code isn't too complex it probably could've been prevented by not allowing Prone to hapen while the player is not on the ground, and not allowed prone spamming to happen by making the movement slow but not stupid in the first place.
I reiterate: I'm not saying 2142 is bad. I don't think it's great, it's just OK. It could be better. You can't expect much from a rushed game made in a year, built on an engine whose own developers have never fixed. It's just a matter of DICE and EA almost EXPECTING us to pay them money to continue enjoying the BF series. Instead of keeping BF2 alive, giving it patches etc, they just kill it off with a mediocre final patch and a reminder to pre-order 2142.
Dex Luther, if dolphin diving and bunny hopping and prone spamming were/are exploits, then shouldn't DICE have caught them before ever releasing BF2 in the first place?
EDIT: Yes I know some exploits don't make themselves as obvious, but if the code isn't too complex it probably could've been prevented by not allowing Prone to hapen while the player is not on the ground, and not allowed prone spamming to happen by making the movement slow but not stupid in the first place.
Last edited by ExecutionerStyle (2006-10-09 06:30:00)
I tried BF2142 with the expectation that I was gonna love it, put I must admit I was a little disappointed. I love the concept of more team-play and the titan mode, also the personalized kits are a good idea...but the entire game seemed slow and I felt trapped somehow. And I know a lot of you guy are saying wait until the real game comes out, It will be even better...but that is 9 days away, do you really think that they will improve it that much in such short time. Apart from that I didn't try the demo yet, I played the real game. I tried most of the maps and also played around with the co-op conquest mode with bots, and I got bored pretty quick. Naturally there were no servers to play on other than empty review servers, so I was just me and 2 of my friends.
I am going to try the demo today, to get a better feel for the multi-player part of the game and I hope I get a better experience. If I don't I am not buying the game.
I'm new to this forum, so be gentle:)
I am going to try the demo today, to get a better feel for the multi-player part of the game and I hope I get a better experience. If I don't I am not buying the game.
I'm new to this forum, so be gentle:)
Last edited by MuadDib-DK (2006-10-09 06:30:20)
Demo sucks simply because there are no unlocks. It's advanced unlock system that makes BF2142 a cool addition to the BF series. (oh yea, I already preordered it)
yeh infantry movement is shithouse
running on foot feels similar to moving in a mech (clunky)
running on foot feels similar to moving in a mech (clunky)
I like the demo, i lag a bit, but its fun and i love titan mode
2142>bf2Kanye North wrote:
2142<bf2
The_Killer wrote:
2142>bf2Kanye North wrote:
2142<bf2
I'm disappointed, and yes you can compare it to BF2 as its part of the series, therefore fair to say that its specifically aimed for us, being its audience.
I can't put my finger on it, but there's just something missing, hasn't an atmosphere like BF2 that grasps you to the point that you almost feel like you're standing in Oman, Kubra etc.
Perhaps its the level in the demo thats disappointing so I still intend to buy the full version, but I just thought that they'd be bundling the BEST level into the Demo!!
We'll see I guess!!
I can't put my finger on it, but there's just something missing, hasn't an atmosphere like BF2 that grasps you to the point that you almost feel like you're standing in Oman, Kubra etc.
Perhaps its the level in the demo thats disappointing so I still intend to buy the full version, but I just thought that they'd be bundling the BEST level into the Demo!!
We'll see I guess!!
Bf2142=Bf2.. they are differentMuseSeeker wrote:
The_Killer wrote:
2142>bf2Kanye North wrote:
2142<bf2
"Exploits" is kind of broad. You can't call everything that they changed or took out an exploit. I wept many tears when they made it impossible to throw C4 anymore. All that did was make tanks dominate even more than they already did. Back in the day, I was pretty good at that. You could run and jump and fling the C4 from several meters away...which, on a map like Karkand or Sharqi is HUGE because of the small space. So that's one thing that they "fixed" that I really hated. Since I couldn't be a C4 whore (which I really liked because it rhymed) I had to switch to being your everyday, run-of-the-mill medic whore :-)
I think that the overall plan with the patches and whatnot was to take the cleverness out of the game. People would be creative and do things that wasn't expected only to have it squashed in the next patch. If patch 1.5 were to come out, what do you think they would kill next? I bet you that being able to run, jump, and throw a grenade to get extra distance would be gone. It's like they want the game to be nothing more than run and shoot so that the earliest noob has a good chance. That's not how it's supposed to be. You have to play the game, learn the tricks and use them. Now, on the other hand, I'm not saying that stuff like being able to go prone in midair is cool. That's obviously a flaw and I think that we can legitimately call that an exploit. But is throwing C4 that unrealistic? If anything was unrealistic, it's that you could only throw C4 about 10 feet! It's just a little brick. You should be able to chuck it 20 or 30 (I mean, in this game, we're all buff military guys, right? lol).
I think that the overall plan with the patches and whatnot was to take the cleverness out of the game. People would be creative and do things that wasn't expected only to have it squashed in the next patch. If patch 1.5 were to come out, what do you think they would kill next? I bet you that being able to run, jump, and throw a grenade to get extra distance would be gone. It's like they want the game to be nothing more than run and shoot so that the earliest noob has a good chance. That's not how it's supposed to be. You have to play the game, learn the tricks and use them. Now, on the other hand, I'm not saying that stuff like being able to go prone in midair is cool. That's obviously a flaw and I think that we can legitimately call that an exploit. But is throwing C4 that unrealistic? If anything was unrealistic, it's that you could only throw C4 about 10 feet! It's just a little brick. You should be able to chuck it 20 or 30 (I mean, in this game, we're all buff military guys, right? lol).
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. They scaled everything in bf2142 at LEAST 10-20% larger than they are in bf2. So even though it's bigger, it's less realistic(in a way that you FEEL that you're in the maps your in). This is one reason why I stick to Quake 2 instead of Quake 3 and 4: I Don't get that nice, video gamey atmosphere, one that lets me escape reality(in a positive way=] )ashleyhall wrote:
I can't put my finger on it, but there's just something missing, hasn't an atmosphere like BF2 that grasps you to the point that you almost feel like you're standing in Oman, Kubra etc.
That, and the lack of world detail bf2 maps are filled with just means all the difference to me, even though I get more fps in bf2142 cuz the lack of detail on screen.
Next would be how I think the weapons feel a lot weaker than bf2's(they could'a done a futuristic arsenal much BETTER), and how I *know* they NERFED the aircrafts...to the point where it's like they took away the special "battlefield has infantry, sea vehicle, AND aircrafts all in same map yall!!" feeling. NERFED!
Those are the major reasons why I like bf2 over bf2142.
Oh, and ctds anyone?
Last edited by lendll (2006-10-09 09:50:24)
2142 Rules!!!!!!!
You shouldn't be able to throw C4 at all. It usually has to be Placed and Set.mad_jester813 wrote:
"Exploits" is kind of broad. You can't call everything that they changed or took out an exploit. I wept many tears when they made it impossible to throw C4 anymore. All that did was make tanks dominate even more than they already did. Back in the day, I was pretty good at that. You could run and jump and fling the C4 from several meters away...which, on a map like Karkand or Sharqi is HUGE because of the small space. So that's one thing that they "fixed" that I really hated. Since I couldn't be a C4 whore (which I really liked because it rhymed) I had to switch to being your everyday, run-of-the-mill medic whore :-)
I think that the overall plan with the patches and whatnot was to take the cleverness out of the game. People would be creative and do things that wasn't expected only to have it squashed in the next patch. If patch 1.5 were to come out, what do you think they would kill next? I bet you that being able to run, jump, and throw a grenade to get extra distance would be gone. It's like they want the game to be nothing more than run and shoot so that the earliest noob has a good chance. That's not how it's supposed to be. You have to play the game, learn the tricks and use them. Now, on the other hand, I'm not saying that stuff like being able to go prone in midair is cool. That's obviously a flaw and I think that we can legitimately call that an exploit. But is throwing C4 that unrealistic? If anything was unrealistic, it's that you could only throw C4 about 10 feet! It's just a little brick. You should be able to chuck it 20 or 30 (I mean, in this game, we're all buff military guys, right? lol).
Thats cool someone else insulted me without having any clue about my playing ability. At least you werent disrepectful like the last little cunt. When I said they sucked it was not in refrence to them bein ineffectual but that I disaproved of thier functionality. Namely the walkers minigun has a very limited ability to look up and down and the missiles seem to have a mind of their own. The tanks seems to have some hit registering problems because several times from long distances i nailed a walker like 5-6 times and barely scratched it.Zefar wrote:
Tank and Walkers don't suck at all, I can rack up loads of kills while being in them. Maybe you are just plain bad with them.
As far as innacurrate weapons please note I said medium to long distances. In close ranges they are great in fact too much so really imo the fire rate is too fast but I suppose its ok since were playing star wars.
Original to see in full screen since youtube is shit quality
and Heres a direct download.
WTF is that a 10 foot deviation ? I enjoy long distance firefights where the person with better aim and more fire control wins. Not in close quarter where spraying and an errant recoil shot can win.
Also the aircraft now takes no skill whatsoever and they apparently decided to only make 2 aircraft where bf2 has tons. Im not really into limiting and downscaling content I want more not less. The only thing i really approved of is the air defense other than the emp lockon its nice to see airdefense that requires some skill instead of the garabge free kills bf2 gives you.
Last edited by ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ (2006-10-09 15:10:33)
I find it funny that 99.9% of the things people are complaining about being "nerfed" would have never been complained about if they had taken them out before release.
I mean, anyone can compare the 1.4 BH to the 1.03 BH and say "I want my 1.03 explosive bullets back", but how many people, if they had taken away the splash before release, would be saying "Hmm, I wonder what would happen if they added 1337 exploding bullets with 5 feet of splash damage to these miniguns", and how many - in comparison - would be replying with a message basically saying "you have too much time on your hands, go outside"? Exactly! BF2 psychology, no? It's all about comparison. Likewise, someone who played in BF2 1.12 as a Support or Anti-Tanker with their inaccurate primary weapons and didn't play an FPS until BF2142 would think that the 2142 weapons were absolutely godly.
I mean, anyone can compare the 1.4 BH to the 1.03 BH and say "I want my 1.03 explosive bullets back", but how many people, if they had taken away the splash before release, would be saying "Hmm, I wonder what would happen if they added 1337 exploding bullets with 5 feet of splash damage to these miniguns", and how many - in comparison - would be replying with a message basically saying "you have too much time on your hands, go outside"? Exactly! BF2 psychology, no? It's all about comparison. Likewise, someone who played in BF2 1.12 as a Support or Anti-Tanker with their inaccurate primary weapons and didn't play an FPS until BF2142 would think that the 2142 weapons were absolutely godly.
I am not disappoint by the game really it is that I believe I will be disappointed later on.
EA needs to meet their deadlines on time and provide standard quality maintenance.
The way they handled BF2 has left me to expect that it might happen to BF2142 later on.
One year from now
Community: What the hell happened to BF2142!? WHERE IS OUR PATCH!? It’s FOUR months overdue!
Electronic Arts: There were technical problems discovered and the patch will be delayed. Anyways we would like to proudly announce that a New Battlefield Game is coming soon! See you on the battlefield!
EA needs to meet their deadlines on time and provide standard quality maintenance.
The way they handled BF2 has left me to expect that it might happen to BF2142 later on.
One year from now
Community: What the hell happened to BF2142!? WHERE IS OUR PATCH!? It’s FOUR months overdue!
Electronic Arts: There were technical problems discovered and the patch will be delayed. Anyways we would like to proudly announce that a New Battlefield Game is coming soon! See you on the battlefield!
Last edited by Icleos (2006-10-09 16:53:41)
Ok, it's shit full stop.Executiator wrote:
I'm sick and tired of people who whine and complain about how shitty BF2142 is... STOP COMPARING THE FUCKING GAME TO BF2 FOR FUCKIN CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!!( if you're alergic to argument, other ideas, and non-onesided views, then stop reading here)
EA wanted to create a different game and everytime someone compares it to BF2, of course its going to be more shitty than BF2 because they haven't implemented too many new ideas, they built off of good standing ideas that had made them profit(which is why BF2142 was made in the first place, to make profit)... Freestanding(meaning not compared to BF2) BF2142 has a completely different feel .. How does this make it shittier???
It's a different game set in the future FFS and you expect it to be any better than BF2??? ALL in all its a good game and has some story to it, pretty sweet as vehs and weapons... I also remember a post earlier that someone said the game is bland with no color... well if you're in the future, with nothing but ice, war and dust surrounding you, do you think you're gonna see butterflies and daisy's????
"BF2142 doesn't have this, like BF2... BF2 has this and makes it WAYYY better!!!" WELL THEN KEEP FUCKIN PLAYING BF2142 AND SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
Try and compare BF2142 to itself and make an accurate fucking judgment of the game.. Peace out
Guns are plain pathetic, some even reward you for holding down shot!
vehicles are rubbish, overall CRAP
Ok, I've had a minor change of heart - I played for a few hours again last night and actually really enjoyed it, need a LOT of team communication so as to get your troops off the titan if the final titan destroying missile is launched, but other than that its a fun game, and one that compliments BF2, in my personal opinion it won't replace my playing of BF2, it'll always be a better game I believe.
Bring on the full release!
Bring on the full release!
I love it! Well, there needs an option to raise the in game gamma, but that's it.
Remember: In game you get sprint unlocks, You have HEAVY armor on by default, switch to light and you'll understand how deadly the weapons are.
AND
PAC and EU have 2 different styles, EU is speed & lots of ammo, while PAC is Tech and low count ammo with high Damage. That is why PAC assault win over EU assault, PAC 20 bullets in semi fire kills in 3, EU takes 7.
But I must say, the Dice actually listened to me whine about the SMG's horrible damage rate, now I can kill assaults in 1/3 of a clip in CQC.
So in summary, if you played BETA 1, you would know how good this game is.
Remember: In game you get sprint unlocks, You have HEAVY armor on by default, switch to light and you'll understand how deadly the weapons are.
AND
PAC and EU have 2 different styles, EU is speed & lots of ammo, while PAC is Tech and low count ammo with high Damage. That is why PAC assault win over EU assault, PAC 20 bullets in semi fire kills in 3, EU takes 7.
But I must say, the Dice actually listened to me whine about the SMG's horrible damage rate, now I can kill assaults in 1/3 of a clip in CQC.
So in summary, if you played BETA 1, you would know how good this game is.
Good point, I do like the armour feature, nice idea - do you literally sprint as much quicker as the 'bar' shows?
I just got it working and the map looks good, I like the hover thing but I have a humungous ping (700+) and get kicked after maybe 30 seconds.
The loading is good though, its so fast.
The loading is good though, its so fast.
Ok, MAJOR change of heart - having spent yet another evening on it, I've decided that I LOVE the game, hehe.
Just shows how a bit of patience can make a whole lot of difference!
Can't wait for C4, destroying that ship will be a bit easier!
Just shows how a bit of patience can make a whole lot of difference!
Can't wait for C4, destroying that ship will be a bit easier!
I like it... it's not BF2, I wouldn't like it if it was BF2. But it's still close enough that you don't have to relearn everthing. The Titan mode is really fun and being in a good squad playing as a team rewards you. Some people hate that part as BF2 sometimes will promote "lone wolf" work.
So far, the game seem balance, it's not perfect but there will always be someone to say "Hey nerf this" or "Why they nerf this".
They did a few change since Beta 2 (the support class is more balance now).
Pre-ordered before trying the Beta or the demo and I don't regret it.
So far, the game seem balance, it's not perfect but there will always be someone to say "Hey nerf this" or "Why they nerf this".
They did a few change since Beta 2 (the support class is more balance now).
Pre-ordered before trying the Beta or the demo and I don't regret it.
Last edited by Buzerk1 (2006-10-10 13:41:16)
To all people complain about there being any skill involved:
"Waaa my gun is in accurate!!!" How about you show this "mad skill" and learn to shoot.
"Waaa my gun is in accurate!!!" How about you show this "mad skill" and learn to shoot.
Last edited by MuseSeeker (2006-10-10 14:06:16)
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