I've been trying out the Infantry only servers and it's been interesting. It's like the ultimate noobfest. I can't imagine what it would be like if we brought 1.2 back and had inf only. Anyway, so I was playing commander and I don't see the point to it really. You get 1 pt for every kill you make, no points for healing, repairing, etc. If you happen to win, this gets 2x'ed which is pretty much the same as if you had just gone without being commander. All you get are the scan, uav, and supplies things, and you get to worry about losing for real this time. Is it really meant to be like this? Is this why almost no one goes commander in inf only? Or am I just missing another aspect of commanding and how to get points in that position.
Infantry Only in leagues is always without commander, maybe that's the reason why noone plays commander on the server?
n00b fest? theres some skill involved in playing infanrty only
Uhh, because you're supposed to communicate to your team and let everybody know where everybody else is. Besides, you still get a ton of points from doing nothing either way. If you really want, since nobody commands on IO servers, you could just become commander, hide in a corner, and go do whatever you want, build up points and commander time without doing anything.
I don't care what anybody says, I still think more skill is involved in regular play. Especially if you're still a ground pounder like myself.Masterstyle wrote:
n00b fest? theres some skill involved in playing infanrty only
Last edited by FrankieSpankie3388 (2006-10-14 19:27:35)
Commanders don't get points for kills. They get points based on how good their team is. But if your commander and you die, then you get revived, you get 1 point for that. Other than that your score is based solely on your team and their performance
If you're the commander you shouldn't be concerned with healing, reviving, or killing. All you should be concerned with is commanding. In commander mode, you get points for simply being in the position, so the longer the match goes, the more points you'll get. If you take the commander position, command, don't fight.
I get the whole "focus on commanding". But I mean seriously, all you have to do is place UAV's and Scan every so often to catch stray soldiers. I can do that while fighting and reviving and everything. Since I usually play Karkand, I'll join the battle while we hold the troops back from hotel. If they take other flags I'll usually pull back and try to help out the team. I just make sure that no stray soldiers get past us and seriously, this takes like little skill. In regular games, there's arty, supplies, vehicle drops which take more focus and it's best to just chill and do it. But in inf only... come on.
And so what you're saying is that if I chill in a corner and command in inf only, I can get high points? I like to get 1st place so going out and killing is best way to acomplish this. Check your score as you keep going and you'll see how you get 1pt for every kill that you have counted. And then that gets 2x at the end if you win.
And by noob-fest... i didn't mean to imply that there is no skill needed in inf only. I just meant that all the so called "noob" techniques are in use. DAO in CQ combats (why be AT, there's no tanks), noob-tubing everywhere, claymore spamming, nade spamming, bunny hopping, etc etc. It just takes a different kind of skill.
So I guess the best thing for this would be to build up command time for ribbons and medals. Not necessarily to get points for being commander.
And so what you're saying is that if I chill in a corner and command in inf only, I can get high points? I like to get 1st place so going out and killing is best way to acomplish this. Check your score as you keep going and you'll see how you get 1pt for every kill that you have counted. And then that gets 2x at the end if you win.
And by noob-fest... i didn't mean to imply that there is no skill needed in inf only. I just meant that all the so called "noob" techniques are in use. DAO in CQ combats (why be AT, there's no tanks), noob-tubing everywhere, claymore spamming, nade spamming, bunny hopping, etc etc. It just takes a different kind of skill.
So I guess the best thing for this would be to build up command time for ribbons and medals. Not necessarily to get points for being commander.
You're missing one critical part of commanding, THE COMMANDING PART. Commanding isn't just he perks you get (UAV etc) its the ability to talk to hopefully competent squad leaders and organize your troops into a well oiled machine of ultimate pwning. I would rather a commander that talked to and organized his troops than one that was using UAV's and such. THAT is the point of being commander in inf only.
-Gus
-Gus
So you would agree then, that there's no points in being commander in inf only really. And since we know that the odds of having a team that works as a team are very low, then there really is no point to being commander in inf only.Gustavington wrote:
You're missing one critical part of commanding, THE COMMANDING PART. Commanding isn't just he perks you get (UAV etc) its the ability to talk to hopefully competent squad leaders and organize your troops into a well oiled machine of ultimate pwning. I would rather a commander that talked to and organized his troops than one that was using UAV's and such. THAT is the point of being commander in inf only.
-Gus
Most do it for the time, and the points as a commander for badges and medals.
Yes, I agree that there tend to be fewer points, but then, you'll see that I NEVER play as commander so I don't consentrate on that side of things. I just try to help the team by using my commanders suggestions, knowing that he knows MUCH more than I about what is happening on the field (unless he's a complete dirshit, of course).GotMex? wrote:
So you would agree then, that there's no points in being commander in inf only really. And since we know that the odds of having a team that works as a team are very low, then there really is no point to being commander in inf only.Gustavington wrote:
You're missing one critical part of commanding, THE COMMANDING PART. Commanding isn't just he perks you get (UAV etc) its the ability to talk to hopefully competent squad leaders and organize your troops into a well oiled machine of ultimate pwning. I would rather a commander that talked to and organized his troops than one that was using UAV's and such. THAT is the point of being commander in inf only.
-Gus
Fail. Don't be rambo .. but be totaly inert ... you still need ot be effective (i.e. in IO .. commanding as sniper is a good thing)RedTwizzler wrote:
If you're the commander you shouldn't be concerned with healing, reviving, or killing. All you should be concerned with is commanding. In commander mode, you get points for simply being in the position, so the longer the match goes, the more points you'll get. If you take the commander position, command, don't fight.
Last edited by jsnipy (2006-10-14 19:53:29)
Completely agreed. When I tried to reach 100 hours as commander, my SPM dropped badly and that was before 1.4. Still, if you want certain badges and medals and ribbons, you have to go through this.dubbs wrote:
Most do it for the time, and the points as a commander for badges and medals.
Proud member of a dead community.
Infantry in IO= a lot of points.
Commanding in IO= a shit load of points
Commanding in IO= a shit load of points
Actually you got 1 point everytime a soldier kills a spotted solder that the commander spotted. Or he gets 1 point per kill in artilleryRedTwizzler wrote:
If you're the commander you shouldn't be concerned with healing, reviving, or killing. All you should be concerned with is commanding. In commander mode, you get points for simply being in the position, so the longer the match goes, the more points you'll get. If you take the commander position, command, don't fight.
i go commander when im eating :dGotMex? wrote:
I've been trying out the Infantry only servers and it's been interesting. It's like the ultimate noobfest. I can't imagine what it would be like if we brought 1.2 back and had inf only. Anyway, so I was playing commander and I don't see the point to it really. You get 1 pt for every kill you make, no points for healing, repairing, etc. If you happen to win, this gets 2x'ed which is pretty much the same as if you had just gone without being commander. All you get are the scan, uav, and supplies things, and you get to worry about losing for real this time. Is it really meant to be like this? Is this why almost no one goes commander in inf only? Or am I just missing another aspect of commanding and how to get points in that position.
I'm slightly horrified by how some of you think Commander Scoring works. And the game's been out for over a year.
Last edited by Kenthar (2006-10-15 01:11:52)
Indeed.
If you people would care to take a look in the wiki:
http://wiki.bf2s.com/stats/scoring-system
"Commander
The commander score is the sum of all commander points earned. The commander points are every point earned by a member of your team during your reign as commander divided by the total of living team members at the given time.
Kills with artillery will count towards you global kills and kills with the kit you are using but do not directly add points to your score.
After each round has finished the commander of the winning side will have his points for that round doubled. "
If you people would care to take a look in the wiki:
http://wiki.bf2s.com/stats/scoring-system
"Commander
The commander score is the sum of all commander points earned. The commander points are every point earned by a member of your team during your reign as commander divided by the total of living team members at the given time.
Kills with artillery will count towards you global kills and kills with the kit you are using but do not directly add points to your score.
After each round has finished the commander of the winning side will have his points for that round doubled. "
it's called teamwork. not every dick plays for themselves. commanders in IO should be respected in a way, as they are the ones giving up some of their points in order for you lot to have your uavs and supplies.
yea, whats up with that. This is how it works: Points scored divided with players(on your team) alive=# of points you get. so if a guy caps a flag for 2 pts and there are 10 teammates alive you get 0.2 pts. You DONT get points for kills or if someone kills a guy you spotted(other than your normal share). This is why you sometimes get an uneven number of points even though you get x2.Kenthar wrote:
I'm slightly horrified by how some of you think Commander Scoring works. And the game's been out for over a year.
Why be commander in IO? Well, if no one else is commander, or if the last round's commander sucked then you should be commander. When you are commander in IO you should not only provide UAV support but order your team's squads to attack and deffend which flag or area. Commanding is very boring, thats why I'll only do it if my team keeps getting a shitty commander or no commander at all. Although, commanding can be pretty fun if you have squads that are good and follow every order.
Last edited by Disabl3d (2006-10-15 02:18:55)
This is wrong.. you get commandpoints the same way as when there are vehicles, nothing has changed there..GotMex? wrote:
Anyway, so I was playing commander and I don't see the point to it really. You get 1 pt for every kill you make.
You dont get any deaths if ur commander
I think it is better as commander in IO, you dont need to worry about your entire team running over to your just placed arty and have them screaming over voip calling you a n00b, (btw case anyone is confused, the red circles arent full of treats), and since there is no arty, your team has to go take out the huge crops of enemies, therefor, MORE POINTS FOR YOU. In io the commander has to use a bit of tactics to acheive the win (provided the team follow your request's, I wouldnt call them order's as there is no punishment for failing to do something). But put simply, it is very common in IO servers that have 50+ players in, each team can score well in excess of 800-1200+ point's, and if you where commander of the winning team who got those 1200 point's, then your doubled score will no doubt be a welcome addition to your point's, and in most cases your latest Gold medal .
Or not.GotMex? wrote:
I've been trying out the Infantry only servers and it's been interesting. It's like the ultimate noobfest.
Sure about that? I thought for a short while that this was the case but it was just that my score was roughly keeping pace with the kills I was making.GotMex? wrote:
Anyway, so I was playing commander and I don't see the point to it really. You get 1 pt for every kill you make...
Depends on the game and the team (amount of squads).GotMex? wrote:
If you happen to win, this gets 2x'ed which is pretty much the same as if you had just gone without being commander.
I wouldn't normally get 200+ points, even in a long game on a 64-player Warlord map with a low player load for example. You get lower command scores when there are few of your people in squads.
Depends on the game and the player load IME.GotMex? wrote:
Is this why almost no one goes commander in inf only?
People like no-vehicle mode because they get to fight and fight as infantry; commanding gets in the way of this (so you'll more often get the fighting commander that doesn't know what command's responsibilities are ).
I guess that at least some players that really like to command will be on normal servers where they'll have access to artillery etc.