sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

The#1Spot wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

scottomus0 wrote:

Im getting it for the sake of MGS4!!
Me too.  But check Killzone 2.  It makes look BF2142 like shit.
just about any fututristic game will make 2142 look like crap cause their development team can actually make a stable game.
Another EA fan?
alpinestar
Member
+304|7019|New York City baby.
and one reason not to buy it "PRICE"
Cybargs
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davespanzer777 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

scottomus0 wrote:

Im getting it for the sake of MGS4!!
Me too.  But check Killzone 2.  It makes look BF2142 like shit.
You should all know it wasnt game play, despite the fact that it looked like that, it was all pre-renderd.
None of those are pre-rendered.

Man all of you are bitching it's too expensive, how much did your PC cost biatch?  thats right, 1000usd or more.

to liquix: MGS4 is not pre-rendered.
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
jermyang
I've Seen the Saucers.
+38|7162|Norcal, usa
haha i thought that mgs4 was real life footage.
jermyang
I've Seen the Saucers.
+38|7162|Norcal, usa
rather buy some pedals and effects.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

davespanzer777 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Me too.  But check Killzone 2.  It makes look BF2142 like shit.
You should all know it wasnt game play, despite the fact that it looked like that, it was all pre-renderd.
None of those are pre-rendered.

Man all of you are bitching it's too expensive, how much did your PC cost biatch?  thats right, 1000usd or more.

to liquix: MGS4 is not pre-rendered.
Agree.  Besides, if you think about that, the PS3 isn't that expensive, for U$S 600 you can only buy a GFx card similar to the nvidia card that comes with the PS3, not the same though.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7069|Nova Scotia
Isn't Gran Turismo HD just GT4 done over with a few changes?  That was the impression I got from reading this or that, although I can't confirm it (it is not GT5 - that I can confirm).
Assassin's Creed, GTA4 and Resident Evil 5 are coming for the 360 as well, which I already have.
I'll be getting a PS3 for sure, but I'm not in any rush for it.
N)i(N Herby007
Anti Unlock Police
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TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Time for me to be an annoying picky bastage...

Anyone else noticed that Snake in MGS4 has the wrong eye missing?

MGS3 Screen ---> http://mgs3.bonusweb.cz/mgs3/pix/subsistance/6.gif
If I can remember rightly, thats Big Boss thats in Metal Gear Solid 3, with the codename Naked Snake. While in Metal Gear Solid 4, thats Solid Snake, and he hasn't got a missing eye in that game it's just some sort of smart eye with Thermal Vision and stuff like that.
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7047|Birmingham, UK

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

davespanzer777 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Me too.  But check Killzone 2.  It makes look BF2142 like shit.
You should all know it wasnt game play, despite the fact that it looked like that, it was all pre-renderd.
None of those are pre-rendered.

Man all of you are bitching it's too expensive, how much did your PC cost biatch?  thats right, 1000usd or more.

to liquix: MGS4 is not pre-rendered.
But a PC is for ease of use, upgrading to your own specification and has a lot more usibility. And I believe that unless this is actual footage from a working PS3 (which it most evidently isn't) then all 'PS3' footage is actually made ON PC's! So your quote of the apparant 'redundance' of the PC compared to the PS3, cyborg (you didn't say it overtly, but you did strongly imply it!), is fairly ridiculous. We all have good PC's here, and the advanatges of them over the PS3 are astounding. All they are good for is the exlcusive games (apart from the Wii which, steering away from conventional gameplay at a very reasonable price is acutally something worth getting alongside your PC).

Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2006-10-18 08:53:15)

Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7069|Nova Scotia

TheDarkRaven wrote:

But a PC is for ease of use, upgrading to your own specification and has a lot more usibility. And I believe that unless this is actual footage from a working PS3 (which it most evidently isn't) then all 'PS3' footage is actually made ON PC's! So your quote of the apparant 'redundance' of the PC compared to the PS3, cyborg (you didn't say it overtly, but you did strongly imply it!), is fairly ridiculous. We all have good PC's here, and the advanatges of them over the PS3 are astounding. All they are good for is the exlcusive games (apart from the Wii which, steering away from conventional gameplay at a very reasonable price is acutally something work getting alongside your PC).
I was wondering when the Nintendo rep was going to show up!
BanG89
as good as me you never will be
+9|7175|Nederland
too expensive for me i think. dont want to spend >500 for a console
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7047|Birmingham, UK

Rygar wrote:

TheDarkRaven wrote:

But a PC is for ease of use, upgrading to your own specification and has a lot more usibility. And I believe that unless this is actual footage from a working PS3 (which it most evidently isn't) then all 'PS3' footage is actually made ON PC's! So your quote of the apparant 'redundance' of the PC compared to the PS3, cyborg (you didn't say it overtly, but you did strongly imply it!), is fairly ridiculous. We all have good PC's here, and the advanatges of them over the PS3 are astounding. All they are good for is the exlcusive games (apart from the Wii which, steering away from conventional gameplay at a very reasonable price is acutally something worth getting alongside your PC).
I was wondering when the Nintendo rep was going to show up!
Amen, brother! *chuckles to himself*

Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2006-10-18 08:53:29)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

Rygar wrote:

Isn't Gran Turismo HD just GT4 done over with a few changes?  That was the impression I got from reading this or that, although I can't confirm it (it is not GT5 - that I can confirm).
Assassin's Creed, GTA4 and Resident Evil 5 are coming for the 360 as well, which I already have.
I'll be getting a PS3 for sure, but I'm not in any rush for it.
It's GT4 with new technology.  Be sure that the PS3 is a lot better than X360.
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7047|Birmingham, UK

sergeriver wrote:

Rygar wrote:

Isn't Gran Turismo HD just GT4 done over with a few changes?  That was the impression I got from reading this or that, although I can't confirm it (it is not GT5 - that I can confirm).
Assassin's Creed, GTA4 and Resident Evil 5 are coming for the 360 as well, which I already have.
I'll be getting a PS3 for sure, but I'm not in any rush for it.
It's GT4 with new technology.  Be sure that the PS3 is a lot better than X360.
Actually, early reports have suggested that the Xbox360 is actually performing better than the PS3 in the 'looks' department. It's not as if 'looks' alone made a game...a fact that seems to pass many people by, nowadays.
For further reference see: 'Never judge a book by it's cover'.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

TheDarkRaven wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

davespanzer777 wrote:


You should all know it wasnt game play, despite the fact that it looked like that, it was all pre-renderd.
None of those are pre-rendered.

Man all of you are bitching it's too expensive, how much did your PC cost biatch?  thats right, 1000usd or more.

to liquix: MGS4 is not pre-rendered.
But a PC is for ease of use, upgrading to your own specification and has a lot more usibility. And I believe that unless this is actual footage from a working PS3 (which it most evidently isn't) then all 'PS3' footage is actually made ON PC's! So your quote of the apparant 'redundance' of the PC compared to the PS3, cyborg (you didn't say it overtly, but you did strongly imply it!), is fairly ridiculous. We all have good PC's here, and the advanatges of them over the PS3 are astounding. All they are good for is the exlcusive games (apart from the Wii which, steering away from conventional gameplay at a very reasonable price is acutally something worth getting alongside your PC).
I don't agree.  You can't get the same graphics with the top notch pc.  The geforce 7950 GTx is not half the card that the PS3 nvidia card is.  I don't think that's rendered with a pc, that's actual footage.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7069|Nova Scotia
The Xbox was better than the PS2 and that didn't stop the PS2 from coming out with good games.
I'll probably only be able to resist getting a PS3 until GT5 is released anyway.  While I am a big FF fan, I haven't seen anything about FF13 yet, so whenever I get around to looking at it that might be a deciding factor as well.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14109 - interesting article, in which a historian and videogame author gives Nintendo shit for overpricing the Wii, which is the first time I heard that mentioned.
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7047|Birmingham, UK

sergeriver wrote:

TheDarkRaven wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:


None of those are pre-rendered.

Man all of you are bitching it's too expensive, how much did your PC cost biatch?  thats right, 1000usd or more.

to liquix: MGS4 is not pre-rendered.
But a PC is for ease of use, upgrading to your own specification and has a lot more usibility. And I believe that unless this is actual footage from a working PS3 (which it most evidently isn't) then all 'PS3' footage is actually made ON PC's! So your quote of the apparant 'redundance' of the PC compared to the PS3, cyborg (you didn't say it overtly, but you did strongly imply it!), is fairly ridiculous. We all have good PC's here, and the advanatges of them over the PS3 are astounding. All they are good for is the exlcusive games (apart from the Wii which, steering away from conventional gameplay at a very reasonable price is acutally something worth getting alongside your PC).
I don't agree.  You can't get the same graphics with the top notch pc.  The geforce 7950 GTx is not half the card that the PS3 nvidia card is.  I don't think that's rendered with a pc, that's actual footage.
I'm afraid those are trailers, and therefore PC rendered. Oh, and did you happen to know that the Cell processors can only work at half-capacity? Like I said - graphics isn't everything, and the difference between a PC and a PS3 game is hardly noticable (and for your future reference, ATi make the best graphics card in current existance - not NVidia). A lot of people seem to forget that games are meant to be fun and there is a limit that games have to be pushed to graphically. I suppose that you and I won't see eye-to-eye on this issue, but I'll leave you to your own decisions at the end of the day.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

Rygar wrote:

The Xbox was better than the PS2 and that didn't stop the PS2 from coming out with good games.
I'll probably only be able to resist getting a PS3 until GT5 is released anyway.  While I am a big FF fan, I haven't seen anything about FF13 yet, so whenever I get around to looking at it that might be a deciding factor as well.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14109 - interesting article, in which a historian and videogame author gives Nintendo shit for overpricing the Wii, which is the first time I heard that mentioned.
I don't think the Xbox was better than PS2 at all.  The Xbox only matched PS2 with more than 2 years of technology advantage for the Xbox, and the game list of PS2 outstands the Xbox.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

TheDarkRaven wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

TheDarkRaven wrote:


But a PC is for ease of use, upgrading to your own specification and has a lot more usibility. And I believe that unless this is actual footage from a working PS3 (which it most evidently isn't) then all 'PS3' footage is actually made ON PC's! So your quote of the apparant 'redundance' of the PC compared to the PS3, cyborg (you didn't say it overtly, but you did strongly imply it!), is fairly ridiculous. We all have good PC's here, and the advanatges of them over the PS3 are astounding. All they are good for is the exlcusive games (apart from the Wii which, steering away from conventional gameplay at a very reasonable price is acutally something worth getting alongside your PC).
I don't agree.  You can't get the same graphics with the top notch pc.  The geforce 7950 GTx is not half the card that the PS3 nvidia card is.  I don't think that's rendered with a pc, that's actual footage.
I'm afraid those are trailers, and therefore PC rendered. Oh, and did you happen to know that the Cell processors can only work at half-capacity? Like I said - graphics isn't everything, and the difference between a PC and a PS3 game is hardly noticable (and for your future reference, ATi make the best graphics card in current existance - not NVidia). A lot of people seem to forget that games are meant to be fun and there is a limit that games have to be pushed to graphically. I suppose that you and I won't see eye-to-eye on this issue, but I'll leave you to your own decisions at the end of the day.
That's your opinion, I would never change to Ati.
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7047|Birmingham, UK

Rygar wrote:

The Xbox was better than the PS2 and that didn't stop the PS2 from coming out with good games.
I'll probably only be able to resist getting a PS3 until GT5 is released anyway.  While I am a big FF fan, I haven't seen anything about FF13 yet, so whenever I get around to looking at it that might be a deciding factor as well.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14109 - interesting article, in which a historian and videogame author gives Nintendo shit for overpricing the Wii, which is the first time I heard that mentioned.
I'll bet you (I'm British but for your ease of use I'll do this in US$) $10 that guy has never played on a Wii. Most of the people who say that haven't. They're making a profit - is that a bad marketing decision? No. It shows they are a stable company that also makes quality products at a price far beyond reasonable compared to their competitors for what they are essentially offering - a games console (with a few extar trimmings that people epext now like internet and so on).
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7047|Birmingham, UK

sergeriver wrote:

Rygar wrote:

The Xbox was better than the PS2 and that didn't stop the PS2 from coming out with good games.
I'll probably only be able to resist getting a PS3 until GT5 is released anyway.  While I am a big FF fan, I haven't seen anything about FF13 yet, so whenever I get around to looking at it that might be a deciding factor as well.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14109 - interesting article, in which a historian and videogame author gives Nintendo shit for overpricing the Wii, which is the first time I heard that mentioned.
I don't think the Xbox was better than PS2 at all.  The Xbox only matched PS2 with more than 2 years of technology advantage for the Xbox, and the game list of PS2 outstands the Xbox.
Take it from any games expect and they'll say technologically the PS2 was the WORST (yes, even worse than the GC...or 'BabyCube' as I expect your vocabulary will lead you to call it) console of the last generation. Yet it sold the most. Why? Sony are living on a name and reputation, nothing more, and in recent weeks that has become shattered.
Maximus[be]
Member
+14|6986
what a shame.
i had thought the graphics would be WAY better
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
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You guys gotta remember, the Sony reps are all calling the PS3 a media machine and not a gaming console.  Xbox360 is classified as a gaming machine however, Microsofts focus was on gaming alone, while Sony was thinking more Blu-ray, music and movies and the Gaming aspect is just part of the deal.  So while the 360 focuses all its next gen power on games, PS3 is going all around.  Wii, is just going to be fun, ill eventually own all three, I will be getting a 360 before I deploy, and a PS3 when my tour is over.  I will be buying the wii on release.  By the time it is all said and done I will have forked over almost 1000 dollars to all the gaming industries.  And I will bet that Killzone 2 is truly a Halo killer.  I loved the Xbox, but my god I hated Halo.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7180|Argentina

TheDarkRaven wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Rygar wrote:

The Xbox was better than the PS2 and that didn't stop the PS2 from coming out with good games.
I'll probably only be able to resist getting a PS3 until GT5 is released anyway.  While I am a big FF fan, I haven't seen anything about FF13 yet, so whenever I get around to looking at it that might be a deciding factor as well.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14109 - interesting article, in which a historian and videogame author gives Nintendo shit for overpricing the Wii, which is the first time I heard that mentioned.
I don't think the Xbox was better than PS2 at all.  The Xbox only matched PS2 with more than 2 years of technology advantage for the Xbox, and the game list of PS2 outstands the Xbox.
Take it from any games expect and they'll say technologically the PS2 was the WORST (yes, even worse than the GC...or 'BabyCube' as I expect your vocabulary will lead you to call it) console of the last generation. Yet it sold the most. Why? Sony are living on a name and reputation, nothing more, and in recent weeks that has become shattered.
My vocabulary?  Whatever you say pal.
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|7108|Hell's prison

sergeriver wrote:

TheDarkRaven wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

I don't think the Xbox was better than PS2 at all.  The Xbox only matched PS2 with more than 2 years of technology advantage for the Xbox, and the game list of PS2 outstands the Xbox.
Take it from any games expect and they'll say technologically the PS2 was the WORST (yes, even worse than the GC...or 'BabyCube' as I expect your vocabulary will lead you to call it) console of the last generation. Yet it sold the most. Why? Sony are living on a name and reputation, nothing more, and in recent weeks that has become shattered.
My vocabulary?  Whatever you say pal.
Why does everyone attack his vocabulary, since when did online forums become a place for ethics and vocabulary, spelling and such, I graduated high school and its still following me around on a forum talking about PS3.  WTF?

But who really cares about technology and graphics, the PS2 swept the last generation because it had great games, games that were truly fun.  Gamecube had some fun ones too, believe me I still play, I aint afraid to say I played some kids games, hell they were great.  Some of the exclusive Xbox games were disappointing, yet some of the PS2 exclusives were too.  It mostly depends on the games company and how much thought, blood sweat and tears went into it.  Take Ninja Gaiden for example, fuckin fun, but damn hard, yet so addicting, I couldnt put it down.  Its all about a great game, if one console has a truly great set of games that people are willing to put money down and play, then thats all that matters.

Last edited by d3v1ldr1v3r13 (2006-10-18 09:42:43)

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