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2006-10-20 11:01:10

Linus: Member; +53|7104

Stats are realavant to the map and style of game you play.

Im so tired of people bragging about their 3/1+ k/d death ratios. Ive noticed nearly ALL
those with high k/d ratios have 1 or more things in common:

1. checking their stats pages, theyve got 85% of their games in karkand. NO DEATHS FROM
JET BOMBS, CHOPPER GUNS, and MUCH FEWER deaths hit by vehicles. Also, MANY more
medics in city maps to heal you when you die, unlike other maps like Wake.

2. They're jet or chopper tards. Whoopeee, you bomb reload bomb reload bomb reload
bomb reload bomb reload bomb reload. Wheeee, skills baby! yeah! (cough) riiiight. Youre
going to have MUCH lower ratios on a map like wake island, if youre an infantryman like
myself. I leave the joysticks to the kiddies. Flying around dropping bombs is for the aimless.
So is spinning around a base in a chopper with a gunner spamming the chain gun all over
the place. Wheee, now theres some skills, too. Ive seen jet pilots who had the whole map
to themselves rack up 30/1 k/d ratios easy. And now I gotta listen to them brag? hahahaha!!

I got 700 hours in this game. 85% of it is wake island. I like 'jeep' maps. Rolling into
a base, fighting into a base, getting kills, taking the flag, and rolling out. Thats my style.
So many times I get killed with NO SKILL its pathetic. I have less than 2 hours in the jets,
and less than 4 in the choppers, and most of those times are just getting a ride to somewhere
and bailing out.

My point, I guess, is that I wish there was a more accurate way to keep stats showing true
skill and ability. Take out deaths by jets and choppers for instance. The karkand tards
dont have to worry about those at all. My beef is basicly this: I usually gold or silver
medal in every game Im in. I usually dominate ground forces, including tanks, vehicles.
I can have 10/1 k/d ratio fighting infantry on wake island. But then, theres the 10 times
I die by skilless jet bombs, and the few times I die by some retard spinning around a circle
in a chopper. (Boy, a anti-air wep sure woulda been nice EA. Thanks for putting 1200 MPH
jets in a 1 square mile map, that was frigging brilliant. Guess we should throw rocks at em.)

Anyhow, stats are realavant to the map and style you play. If I want to fly around and get
bored dropping bombs on people all day I would rack up some points. But like I said, I leave
that to the aimless with their joysticks. Hop out and fight me, see what happens!!

Flame on!

Last edited by Linus (2006-10-20 11:03:21)

2006-10-20 11:03:17

Mr.H@x0r: Member; +54|6963

FLAME there thats me happy

2006-10-20 11:06:39

_lecro_: Banned; +4|6932

wtf are you talkin about? are people jet whores because you suck in them?...hmm..

2006-10-20 11:12:22

Tro0per: Take off, hosers; +24|6867|Ontario, Canada

I have to agree with you there Linus. If you spent 1000 hours in karkand of course you will have a better k/d ratio than others that play most or a variety of other maps. And I also agree with you about ground pounding on wake. It's WAY more fun to jeep in, kill 6 people, cap the flag, and jeep out to the next flag =p.

2006-10-20 11:32:45

Ubersturmbannfuhrer: I am a fucking homosexual; +211|7057|Parainen, Finland

The karkand part is correct, I will also give them the finger !!!!!
Choppers and planes, well he is right in a way, but we need choppers n´planes too!!!!!!
Choppers for those nasty tanks and enemy choppers, (Thats my thing!!!)
If you are getting bombed all the time, well don´t blame the enemy pilots, It´s their way of playing the game, blame your teams pilots for letting the enemies bomb you, If you have good pilots in your team then you don´t have to worry about enemy planes, believe me!!!!!!

I´m a chopper whore, I admit that, but I give people like you the chance to make those jeep attacks on those bases, without us you would be shot by tanks or enemy choppers!!!!!!
We do our job and you do yours, I enjoy my game and you yours, and the result if we all succeed???
Well a sure victory, you see!!!!

Everyone is needed to make a game nice, we need pounders, planes, choppers to help each other to gain victory, you cant take them all on with a G36 and a FAV, you will need the heavy cavalry too, aka US!!!!!!
And we need skill to accomplish our part of the war!!!!

I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!

-Ubersturmbannfuhrer

Last edited by Ubersturmbannfuhrer (2006-10-20 11:34:03)

2006-10-20 11:42:11

killer21: Because f*ck you that's why.; +400|7042|Reisterstown, MD

I don't like to fly anything. I would much rather TV something in a chopper or SU. So much more fun that way for me.

2006-10-20 11:42:57

TuataraDude: Member; +115|6974|Aotearoa

Look, everyone prefers a certain style of play. Some like to chopper whore, some armour whore etc. The bottom line is, play what you enjoy playing and forget about stats and what other people think about your stats. It is too easy to get caught up in the "My k/d ratio is better than yours" argument and it serves no purpose. I don't have a single stat that is any good, but I love playing the game and quite frankly, seem to get more fun because of that than the people who play to increase their ratio here, or their stat there. Let's be honest, you will never meet 99% of the people you are playing against, so who cares what they think?

Mind you, I am an Oldie von Mouldie and peer pressure doesn't affect me anymore.

2006-10-20 11:43:12

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|7104

thread started by Linus saying that he uninstalled BF2 <--click

Last edited by SargeV1.4 (2006-10-20 11:43:25)

2006-10-20 11:49:16

deadawakeing: Ummmmmmmmmmmmm; +145|6933

im sick look i have a 3.5 kd ratio with assault rifles im better then you

2006-10-20 12:09:34

Todd_Angelo: Leukocyte; +336|7078|Warlord

Flame-retardant clothing requested, this location!

Linus wrote:
My point, I guess, is that I wish there was a more accurate way to keep stats showing true skill and ability.

Actually if you think about it you just showed that this isn't necessary since you can interpret the stats (pretty correctly IMO) just as you've done.

2006-10-20 12:54:47

xintegrityx: set your body ablaze; +37|7180|Louisiana

I play almost entirely infantry combat as well, and I play almost entirely on Wake Island (except when I play IO). And I do agree with you that people who play mostly Karkand have it easier than us ground pounders who like to play vehicle-heavy maps. It's annoying to get killed by a bomb that you could do nothing to avoid, but you're crossing the line when you say that pilots are "aimless" - you don't fly choppers or jets because you don't like them, and for that reason you probably suck with them. I know I do. It takes practice to fly jets and choppers effectively, just as it takes time to learn to fight on the ground effectively.

If you don't believe me, I'd like to issue you a challenge. Get in a chopper or jet and rack up a 30/1 ratio, which good pilots often do. Or, try going on an IO server playing Karkand or Jalalabad - I think you'll find the people playing there are much better at infantry combat than those playing on Wake.

2006-10-20 13:44:37

iPoon.be: Internet Poon; +145|6980|Belgium

I gotta be honost: i hate getting killed by aviators because i cant give em payback My aviator ratios suck and im not a great chopper pilot either

But hey, if you want 3/1 K/D, play more kark and less oman.

2006-10-20 13:56:15

Deadman: Member; +34|6893|England

Well i didnt buy the game for the damn stats, 1942 didnt have them and neither has POE2.
I do look at my stats on here from time to time, when i get a new medal/ribbon or whatever, but thats it.
The rest is just meaningless and about as interesting as collecting stamps.

2006-10-20 16:17:18

twiistaaa: Member; +87|7120|mexico

stats are personal, they dont effect anyone but the person who owns them (and even then its not real) so what difference does it make how they get their ratios and deaths in any way to the real world? people are dying right now and other people are helping out and your worried about some trivial aspect of a game 90% of the world doesnt even know about.

who. the. fuck. cares.

2006-10-20 16:29:36

Bevo: Nah; +718|6972|Austin, Texas

Linus wrote:
Stats are realavant to the map and style of game you play.

Im so tired of people bragging about their 3/1+ k/d death ratios. Ive noticed nearly ALL
those with high k/d ratios have 1 or more things in common:

1. checking their stats pages, theyve got 85% of their games in karkand. NO DEATHS FROM
JET BOMBS, CHOPPER GUNS, and MUCH FEWER deaths hit by vehicles. Also, MANY more
medics in city maps to heal you when you die, unlike other maps like Wake.

2. They're jet or chopper tards. Whoopeee, you bomb reload bomb reload bomb reload
bomb reload bomb reload bomb reload. Wheeee, skills baby! yeah! (cough) riiiight. Youre
going to have MUCH lower ratios on a map like wake island, if youre an infantryman like
myself. I leave the joysticks to the kiddies. Flying around dropping bombs is for the aimless.
So is spinning around a base in a chopper with a gunner spamming the chain gun all over
the place. Wheee, now theres some skills, too. Ive seen jet pilots who had the whole map
to themselves rack up 30/1 k/d ratios easy. And now I gotta listen to them brag? hahahaha!!

I got 700 hours in this game. 85% of it is wake island. I like 'jeep' maps. Rolling into
a base, fighting into a base, getting kills, taking the flag, and rolling out. Thats my style.
So many times I get killed with NO SKILL its pathetic. I have less than 2 hours in the jets,
and less than 4 in the choppers, and most of those times are just getting a ride to somewhere
and bailing out.

My point, I guess, is that I wish there was a more accurate way to keep stats showing true
skill and ability. Take out deaths by jets and choppers for instance. The karkand tards
dont have to worry about those at all. My beef is basicly this: I usually gold or silver
medal in every game Im in. I usually dominate ground forces, including tanks, vehicles.
I can have 10/1 k/d ratio fighting infantry on wake island. But then, theres the 10 times
I die by skilless jet bombs, and the few times I die by some retard spinning around a circle
in a chopper. (Boy, a anti-air wep sure woulda been nice EA. Thanks for putting 1200 MPH
jets in a 1 square mile map, that was frigging brilliant. Guess we should throw rocks at em.)

Anyhow, stats are realavant to the map and style you play. If I want to fly around and get
bored dropping bombs on people all day I would rack up some points. But like I said, I leave
that to the aimless with their joysticks. Hop out and fight me, see what happens!!

Flame on!

2006-10-20 18:50:24

xXDomination: iDF!; +26|6850|California

Linus wrote:
I have less than 2 hours in the jets,
and less than 4 in the choppers,

That one statement nullifies any view you may have of pilots lacking skill.

I'm somewhat new to flying jets and choppers and I love the people who claim the only reason people fly the vehicles is because they suck at infantry combat. This can be true for some, but in my case I played nothing but infantry for about 350 hours before I started flying/whoring jets and choppers. Flying has made me an overall better player, while giving the capability to rack up a good amount of points in them, you also learn how to best avoid/defend against them as infantry. Perhaps that is why you get owned by jets/heli's because you don't understand or know how they work.

2006-10-20 19:05:26

Drax: Paddles/Plane Whore; +28|7012|Australia, NSW

i fly planes and choppers cause thats what i find fun. the k/d comes with that, as does gold medals.

if your saying u dont care about stats and such, why are u trying to compare your the the whores, and get them changed so u have more of a chance. get over it, leave them how they are. the planes and choppers that killed you are just better than you(kill them back if theyre "skillless"), get over it, it's part of the game.

2006-10-20 19:30:29

FrankieSpankie3388: Hockey Nut; +243|6981|Boston, MA

Exactly how I think Linus. I don't care about k/d ratio and stuff, I'm the suicide Anti-Tank. I'm always on the front lines, shooting at anything that can shoot back, infantry, tanks, helis, hell even jets if it's the right angle. I also hate when people think they're friggin amazing because they can rape the tv station roof in a heli at Sharqi. The only way I know how to decide who's better is to put them up one on one on a map and compare them, usually I come out on top, that's all I care about.

Also, Wake Island is definately in my Top 2 maps of all time, it's a tie between Wake and Sharqi because of the great infantry battles at both. Simply amazing. I have a 2.30 w/l ratio on Wake when I like to play as USMC with my brother. We just absolutely rape when it coms to that map, just because everybody is flying around, we run around and capture all the flags while destroying anybody on the ground. Teamwork at Wake is the best thing you can ever do.

I just wish I didn't spend so much time on Karkand when I began playing. It has plagued my stats. Although I don't even get my good ratio from there, my ratio comes from maps like Wake, Sharqi, Warlord, and Ghost Town.

Last edited by FrankieSpankie3388 (2006-10-20 19:31:46)

2006-10-20 19:33:27

Raptor1: Member; +19|6939

I don't either, im the medic on crack who runs around (even infront of tanks and moving vehicals) just to head that person and get 2 points. I will be in like 2nd on my team, have a worse k/d ratio that 10 more peopel on my team, but still have more points from running around healing.

2006-10-20 20:29:25

elite.mafia: Banned; +122|6905|USA

If you think it takes no skill whatsoever to go 50-0 in a f35 on wake island than maybe you should go do it?

2006-10-20 20:41:35

Fenix14: scout rush kekeke ^___^; +116|7008|Brisbane, Aus

i'm almost totaly useless when it comes to bombing in a plane so i got after other jets lol

2006-10-20 20:48:11

elite.mafia: Banned; +122|6905|USA

And also, I'm an all around player... Only stupid people get raped by jets on the ground. If you neutralize a flag, expect the entire enemy team to arrive with guns blazing, artillery firing, bombs dropping, etc. I play a lot of kubra dam. I spawn at the airfiled just about every round, and if I don't get a jet or helo, I'll grab a FAV/DPV, and go cap flags, and usually when I cap the said flags, I'll hop into a tank / apc / AA vehicle, and give them hell. I don't give "jet n00bs" free kills. They have to work for them. And when I'm in a jet, I don't just go around bombing every single flag, reloading, bombing, reloading. That's what retards in j10's do. Maybe you should find a new map to play? And besides, if it takes no skill whatsoever, why don't you go do it. FFS man, anyone who crys about something usually crys because they suck at the game. I'm assuming the reason you play a lot of wake is because the people who play infantry usually blow at it on that map.. Go play karkand if you think chopper noobs and jet noobs dont deserve to brag about their k:d ratios. I see you said you think karkand whores are noobs too... So I guess you're the only person in the entire game who thinks that every single person besides himself sucks at the game??? K.... Go play 2142,

2006-10-20 20:57:18

ShadowFoX: I Hate Claymores; +109|6982

Have you played SF linus? And I mean not Warlord SF.

Play some SF rotation servers and trust me you wont get bombed by a jet. A chopper maybe but then a guy like you should have no prob taking them down.

2006-10-21 03:23:39

AG3NT[FIN]: Member; +24|6954

Ubersturmbannfuhrer wrote:
The karkand part is correct, I will also give them the finger !!!!!
Choppers and planes, well he is right in a way, but we need choppers n´planes too!!!!!!
Choppers for those nasty tanks and enemy choppers, (Thats my thing!!!)
If you are getting bombed all the time, well don´t blame the enemy pilots, It´s their way of playing the game, blame your teams pilots for letting the enemies bomb you, If you have good pilots in your team then you don´t have to worry about enemy planes, believe me!!!!!!

I´m a chopper whore, I admit that, but I give people like you the chance to make those jeep attacks on those bases, without us you would be shot by tanks or enemy choppers!!!!!!
We do our job and you do yours, I enjoy my game and you yours, and the result if we all succeed???
Well a sure victory, you see!!!!

Everyone is needed to make a game nice, we need pounders, planes, choppers to help each other to gain victory, you cant take them all on with a G36 and a FAV, you will need the heavy cavalry too, aka US!!!!!!
And we need skill to accomplish our part of the war!!!!

I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!!

-Ubersturmbannfuhrer

2006-10-21 03:42:50

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6944|N. Ireland

all i am going to say is this: it's a game with lots of varieties and that's why people like it. Some like armour, some like helicopters, some like jets and some even like those 3mph boats.

I for one love infantry only and my KDR ratio has gone from 0.5 to 0.7 in the past few days

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