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noob gunners can be fun unless its one of those times where the other teams helicopter wont hop off you

i always try to show em how to handle the TV, that the MG is useless vs tanks [yes knight] and more stuff...
it gives you a good feeling when you get a "thank you for flying with me"

but i have to say its not always that funny.. sometimes i get gunners that arent able to do anything and than i get angry and the redzone get some work sry.... i'm feeling guilty now -.-

reefl3x wrote:

...I was pubing Gulf Of Oman a few days ago and a guy got into the gunner seat under the nickname "Iraqwar-Vet04" or something of that nature and after bordering him ( I was in the mood to solo), I felt like a serious ass, ...

I would say the reason you felt like that is because you are.  That is one nasty thing to do.
How could a gunner get you killed? Weren't you the one with the controls? you know, the up, down, left, right stick thingy. 

Fine, if you're "in the mood to solo" then solo, but if someone jumps in the gunner seat, which is why the seat is there in the 1st place then too F*&^n bad. As far as driving him out to the border and killing him, that is one of the most deplorable acts in BF2 Ive ever heard of and you my friend have just been awarded the veteran arsehole ribbon for excellency in all that is decidedly ghey.

Flakturnal wrote:

reefl3x wrote:

...I was pubing Gulf Of Oman a few days ago and a guy got into the gunner seat under the nickname "Iraqwar-Vet04" or something of that nature and after bordering him ( I was in the mood to solo), I felt like a serious ass, ...

I would say the reason you felt like that is because you are.  That is one nasty thing to do.
How could a gunner get you killed? Weren't you the one with the controls? you know, the up, down, left, right stick thingy. 

Fine, if you're "in the mood to solo" then solo, but if someone jumps in the gunner seat, which is why the seat is there in the 1st place then too F*&^n bad. As far as driving him out to the border and killing him, that is one of the most deplorable acts in BF2 Ive ever heard of and you my friend have just been awarded the veteran arsehole ribbon for excellency in all that is decidedly ghey.

Well if an enemy chopper team is all over my arse all round and my gunner is fireing tv missles (if at all) and he doesnt know how to manuever them, what do I do? Sure I can attempt to dodge the enemy missles, which is simple vs the average chopper crew, but against the better solo's/2 man crews its not as easy, especially with a gunner that has no idea how to work a tv missle, if at all.

Sure my pilot skills could always be better, but the last thing I truely need is a gunner who has no fundamental understanding of how a tv missle works. Alot of gunners dont even fire period. Then once you attempt to explain to them how to work a tv missle, they either ignore you or mock you by telling me they already know.

I'll typically always give my gunner the 1st shot, but if he fails to fire or misses continuously, theres only so much I can do before we die. The rocket pods are useless especially on maps like Dalian Plant where long range chopper battles are the norm. I dont mind if he doesnt shoot ground targets as those are simple enough to take out, but its the chopper battles where the gunner really makes a bigger difference than a pilot.

Some days I have patience, others I dont, but i'm trying to take on a new style of flying by letting everyone have a shot, but its certainly not easy. I just wish new players would take the time to understand how choppers or other aspects of the game work before jumping into a chopper.

I truely dont mind flying around low ranked players, but its the "skill" that bothers me...hell screw skill, situational awareness is a better example. I will set a gunner up only to have him not fire, and after 20 seconds of spotting the target and him not fireing, it can get frustrating.

Last edited by reefl3x (2006-10-29 01:50:59)

M95 Ftw

But like TeK said Flakturnal, spend some more time flying and you'll find out how frustrating it can be. You try to hold your patience and eventually you run out.

I try to be a nice person but i have seen many jerks like i was on dulican plant or somthingand i  jumped in attack helicopter and he flys off to the edge of the map out of range and i die...
Its nice to see you helped a new player thought

Flakturnal wrote:

reefl3x wrote:

...I was pubing Gulf Of Oman a few days ago and a guy got into the gunner seat under the nickname "Iraqwar-Vet04" or something of that nature and after bordering him ( I was in the mood to solo), I felt like a serious ass, ...

I would say the reason you felt like that is because you are.  That is one nasty thing to do.
How could a gunner get you killed? Weren't you the one with the controls? you know, the up, down, left, right stick thingy. 

Fine, if you're "in the mood to solo" then solo, but if someone jumps in the gunner seat, which is why the seat is there in the 1st place then too F*&^n bad. As far as driving him out to the border and killing him, that is one of the most deplorable acts in BF2 Ive ever heard of and you my friend have just been awarded the veteran arsehole ribbon for excellency in all that is decidedly ghey.

i agree with this guy.... this is a game, you should always be playing for fun. not ruining other peoples games beacuse you feel your to "leet" for them..... thats pretty fuckin lame.

reefl3x wrote:

But like TeK said Flakturnal, spend some more time flying and you'll find out how frustrating it can be. You try to hold your patience and eventually you run out.

Exactly. Up until recently, I hardly ever went in a chopper since I didnt know what I was doing and generally was quite bad at both piloting and gunning.
Also, the fact that whenever I tried to get one, I got tked - M95 or otherwise. Then I got into SF and I havent had it happen once, except for the tosser who decided to fly the transport chopper into me because he couldnt get into the heli...

But, I practised TV's on SP mode on Dragon Valley and learnt to fly better when the stupid bots refuse to take you back to re-arm or repair...
Its the best way to practise, and I still do it occasionly. You dont piss off other players, you dont fuck up your stats (if you are concerned about them) and you have a pilot who will line you up with shots, with no enemies ever firing back at you, except for a Stinger site. Its easy practise without having to worry about other things, such as SRAW's, etc.

Needless to say, Ive gotten pretty good with the TV's. Im better at TV'ing than gunning, simply because I find it hard to judge whereabouts to aim at the enemy with the cannon. On SP, it was simple: aim straight at them, dead. But online, with pings and the moving from side to side, and all the rest of it...its different. I wouldnt say im shit, but im far from amazing. Lets just say, I have my moments, but it is improving.

Now, Im closing in on that veteran heli and I spend about half my time flying and half the time gunning. Ive had some awesome gunners (I play mostly Gator now) and have had ranks ranging from Cpl up to Mjr.Generals gunning. The General, in particular, got me something in excess of 40 driver points in 1 round - and that wasnt even spawnraping. It was simply amazing. Any enemy who appeared got killed straight away.
The following round, I got a heli mid round and got a low rank as a gunner. Not only did he not TV missile anything, but he fired perhaps 3 bullets at enemy troops and then stopped without even killing them. Avoiding AA, SRAW's and the enemy chopper took too much time to be able to explain wtf to do.
That is when it is frustrating, and even though I would never border anyone, I did regret allowing him in because all that time in the chopper gained me nothing at all, and its hard to fly for a low ranked if hes not even prepared to shoot. Granted, thats a rare case to be that stupid in a gunner seat.
Ive had plenty of low ranks who werent that good at gunning, so I flew low, hovered over the target and gave him time to shoot. A low ranked Sergeant got me my Crew Specialist ribbon with 0 tickets left! We had 0 deaths between us and a shit load of kills. It was a good round, I flew to cope with his skills. Told him to TV over VOIP and he did very well after I told him how to do it.

But before I got into the choppering scene, I also frowned upon chopper pilots who get frustrated with their gunners and couldn't understand it. Now, with I suppose a "mere" 37hours in the chopper, Im already seeing it. Ive even had a Lt.Col who had about 30 ping who couldnt gun for shit and fired the cannon at tanks. I was amused, shocked and disgusted at the same time
But, I wouldnt ever border someone and have never tked anyone for a vehicle. Well, except for one fucknut who got me 3 times whilst I was waiting for one. But he was French, and he deserved it.

I will always try to help people by letting them gun if I happen to fly, I don't leave anybody behind. I'm only an asshole to the people who seriously act like they're 4 years old. I had 3 signs that this kid could not have been in the double digits. First, he killed me (after I killed him and went to capture the point, he caught me while I was actually reloading and was also commander so he already knew exactly where I was,) and teabagged me. I called him out on being 4 right there. Then he used a mom joke. Then the last sign was he wouldn't stop arguing with me even after saying "I don't care what you say." If he didn't care, he would have never replied in the first place. Now I have the kid on my leader board and I'm going to hunt him down every chance I get. Bottom line is I won't be a jerk, unless you start it!

A taxi service could be really nice though. I was playing Sharqui last night and there was a heli pilot with a gunner the whole round. They blew up and I hopped in the gunner seat and asked for a ride just to the TV station. He gave it to me, I hopped out, capped the point, and then the heli pilot got his buddy and went back to his routine play. The main thing that people use it as a taxi for is just so you could get there quickly before anybody could spawn there.