BF2S Forums Skills and SPM

Mongoose wrote:

just jetwhore wake island on china, dosent work for me because i cant fly for crap, but im sure youll learn and love it

LOL how ya going mongoose champ? remember that time when you got pissed off at m for planewhoring, and now u promote it

Drexel wrote:

This should go without saying, but I feel that I still have to say it...  SPM means jack to skill.  All of these players that are commenting here are all medics and the guy with an 8+ has over 25% of his points as revives (no offence).  I don't have much of a SPM but that is because I spend most of my time as Commander/Squad leader providing spawnpoints for my Squadmates.  No offence to anyone here, but I don't care if you have a SPM of over 20, you will never win if you don't have teamwork.  Kills aren't everything.

Actually with that high an SPM you WILL win for your team. Look at the top 10 guys on the scoreboard. They sure as heck aren't team players (well most of them), but their WLR are always excellent to extremely good.

Snipa Fox wrote:

Silver, that was never a pronejump (We've been through this!).

If you doubt me, come and join a server with me some time. I don't bite, i'm a friendly fox

sif! you PJ and dolphin dive...nothing wrong with it tho .

My K: D ratio is 19.24 spm: 5.95 wlr: 20
I just hack and slash through the maps.

Tro0per wrote:

or you just made a new account, which all signs point to yes

yes i made a new account so what? thats how good i am today.

AK101Tigersharkswe wrote:

My K: D ratio is 19.24 spm: 5.95 wlr: 20
I just hack and slash through the maps.

Yes this is indeed pretty homo - you played all of 2.3 hours. Shit I can make a new account and paddle whore on kark for 2 rounds and say look my KD is 40 and SPM of 12!!!

That proves nothing, and further to the point, whoring points is only one style of play on one map - it's not exactly a summary of anyones skill.

Is the guy who takes AT time and time again to take down that annoying tank an ass player because his SPM is 2 instead of 6 and his KDR is 0.5? Is the LMG user an ass player because his accuracy is 5%? Is the claymore whoring l337 shoot 6 people in a round and clay 50 sniper an awesome player because his accuracy is 50% and he has a KD of 12 but his SPM is 0.2 and he never once caps a flag? Etc.

It all comes down to what job you take on and how well you do that job, not what your SPM or KDR or ACC is, though these help indicate your personal growth, other people looking at your stats will not know how you play from just your stats; hence, any conclusions you draw, such as "omg im l337 I played 2.3 hours on kark look at my stats" are completely invalid.

[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:

AK101Tigersharkswe wrote:

My K: D ratio is 19.24 spm: 5.95 wlr: 20
I just hack and slash through the maps.

Yes this is indeed pretty homo - you played all of 2.3 hours. Shit I can make a new account and paddle whore on kark for 2 rounds and say look my KD is 40 and SPM of 12!!!

That proves nothing, and further to the point, whoring points is only one style of play on one map - it's not exactly a summary of anyones skill.

If its so easy do it then. i played mostly sharqi bwtf 21 rounds or something.

Last edited by AK101Tigersharkswe (2006-11-02 12:44:39)

AK101Tigersharkswe wrote:

[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:

AK101Tigersharkswe wrote:

My K: D ratio is 19.24 spm: 5.95 wlr: 20
I just hack and slash through the maps.

Yes this is indeed pretty homo - you played all of 2.3 hours. Shit I can make a new account and paddle whore on kark for 2 rounds and say look my KD is 40 and SPM of 12!!!

That proves nothing, and further to the point, whoring points is only one style of play on one map - it's not exactly a summary of anyones skill.

If its so easy do it then. i played mostly sharqi bwtf 21 rounds or something.

Here's my stats for the last month via statpadders stat trimmer.

http://www.statpadder.com:8080/bf2calc/ … 1158987840

Now, go play your new account for 3 days of total time on a REAL 64 player server (my play time in the last month) and then compare with my stats. My stats are not awesome, but they prove my point (that what you did is not impressive)...this is simply me playing normal maps with my friends, not paddling the shit out of people on some KP only server, or IO server, and I still have stats much greater then when I started out (e.g. when I was a normal player).

I don't need a new account to prove that anyone can paddle the shit out of each other for points and a high KDR (because you always get raised). If I can get high stats playing normally, then why is it impressive that point whoring yields high points, especially when you only play 2.3 hours on the account? Fuck that, I played 3 days - normally - and those stats are a lot more meaningful then 2.3 hours of paddle-whoring.

Shit if you want to brag, have something to back it up with! Even then, put 50,000 points into your new account and you prove what? That paddles + medic buddies + CQC maps = points? No shit! Do we suck your dick now or what?

Edit: Your kark vid was nice, your comp must be up to top specs for that action. Yet my point remains, CQC = points? /nod

Last edited by [CANADA]_Zenmaster (2006-11-02 16:58:51)

PlaneWhore wrote:

If I'd classify any set of weapons as "instagib devices" it'd be the automatics. Point in the general direction of your target, hold down the mouse button and spray like crazy. It's effective and it's easy. Don't expect to do that with the G36E though. It's a powerful gun to be sure but it only works if you're a good player who can 1) aim precisely and 2) control your recoil and firing technique. Don't expect to get any "spray n' pray" with the G36E.

Now that I think about it this whole response was off base. You've admitted you think the G36E "stupidly over-powered" (I happen to agree to a lesser extent - that it is the best rifle) yet you don't recommend people use it? Same weapon skills required as the M16 only it's a better weapon and thus will yield better results. The logic isn't that tough to follow.

You cant be serious. The G36 takes next to no skill at all. The M16 is extremly different, and, a little harder to use than the G36. The 36 with accurate on 3 burst fire even from 100m.

-[Silver.Inc* wrote:

PlaneWhore wrote:

If I'd classify any set of weapons as "instagib devices" it'd be the automatics. Point in the general direction of your target, hold down the mouse button and spray like crazy. It's effective and it's easy. Don't expect to do that with the G36E though. It's a powerful gun to be sure but it only works if you're a good player who can 1) aim precisely and 2) control your recoil and firing technique. Don't expect to get any "spray n' pray" with the G36E.

Now that I think about it this whole response was off base. You've admitted you think the G36E "stupidly over-powered" (I happen to agree to a lesser extent - that it is the best rifle) yet you don't recommend people use it? Same weapon skills required as the M16 only it's a better weapon and thus will yield better results. The logic isn't that tough to follow.

You cant be serious. The G36 takes next to no skill at all. The M16 is extremly different, and, a little harder to use than the G36. The 36 with accurate on 3 burst fire even from 100m.

I'm plenty serious and the numbers and facts are on my side. Go look at a side by side comparison of the M16 and G36E. The numbers practically identical. While the M16 does have its strong points (perfect iron sights) the G36E is the better of the two weapons to be sure but you don't have to be Einstein to know that an additional .001 on this or that doesn't make the M16 "extremely different" and harder to use.

That being said this thread isn't a discussion on the best weapon or the best kit so stop trying to derail it. Simply put the OP asked "How do you get a high SPM?". To which I responded "Play a medic, play with a squad and use what is in my opinion the best rifle in the game". Advice that is perfectly valid and comes from someone who has quite possibly the best legitimate statistics in the game (without K&P/IO padding or cheating). If the OP asked "How do I make this game harder?" I probably would've told him to run around on one of the worthless kits and try and kill people with your knife and/or pistol.

Last edited by PlaneWhore (2006-11-03 00:45:58)

MetalChont wrote:

I just kill very fast and do the odd revive - it's not uncommon for me to get 40+ kills in a 10-15 minute round

Same, I actually get more points on foot playing sharqi, then the people whoring the chopper. I laugh at them.

wilber69 wrote:

I thought SPM meant Score Per Minute, not Kills per Min.(correct me if I wrong!)

Neutralise & Cap a flag. That's 4 points, do that enough times, your SPM will go up. You can then pick up more points defending the base, (Defend CP) + pick up more kills. These things are a great part of the game, that no-one in this topic, (again, correct me if I wrong!) seems to have mentioned.

You meantioned it, so your wrong. lol

Last edited by TerrorisT² (2006-11-03 05:07:40)

Play Karkand.

Seriously, I might have played maybe 15 minutes of Karkand in the past two months since I just don't like the map anymore. If I can get a 2.3 SPM on all these other more spread out maps while mainly just ground pounding and using the jeeps as Anti-Tank, I could probably get a 4-5 on Karkand as medic. Don't even look at a player's stats to see if their better, just play against them and see who's better.

Wheee