BF2S Forums Opinion: Blackhawk in Mash City

Strategy for the MEC chopper:

1. Get a good squad together, a good pilot, and a spec ops guy in the back. Ideally pilot should be Resupply. any gunners Medic, guys in the back next to the spec ops should be engineers repairing.

2. Voice over IP is really good the pilot can relay info to spec ops on when to drop C4. You can take out the BH from above if you fly over it. and then just keep hitting it when its on the pad. rinse repeat. pilot can also direct the copter to take out tanks and the like if he can fly in between buildings or anything else. The great thing about this is,  if the pilot flies straight the C4 comes out of the back straight to the ground, so you can time things really well.


Anyhow, my thoughts on the BH on mashtuur is it should be supporting the troops ideally you would want 3 SLs in the pilot and gunners seats and have their squads spawn on them and jump out. The BH should not try and cap flags but keep moving and working to take out ground units for the people spawning and jumping.

And capturing the North gas station is just a good move, depending on the team, it might not get recapped for awhile and you take out their UAV.

Last edited by freebirdpat (2005-11-21 13:03:10)

Drive (vodnik) over as an AT, netural the flag then jump in the AA missle defense. Wait for chopper fire 2 missles as soon as he starts to turn then jump out of the AA.

Take out the rest with the AT, watch for bailers... mow them down with the (vodnik).

Cap flag then try to hold it... usually it works but you won't get help...
Almost always works if enemy commander is an idiot and doesn't spot you.

Bravery wrote:

Srategies for MEC chopper:

1. Strap 5 C4's to the front and ram the Blackhawk out of the sky.

that is by far the best tactic for the bughawk

AA stations in Mashtuur? Hmmm I guess I cant see clearly then, but I think that there is no AA stations on this map sry.

Both gas stations have sams on the roof.

as to mashtuur?
Even after the cap-nerf, the bh still owns that map.
You might not realize it, but a decent pilot with a skilled gunner can entirely shut out the entire opposing team. The only thing on that map the bh cant kill is the mbt, and any decent bh pilot stands the hawk on its nose to beat the mec there.

about 90% of the time some retard who only has a vague notion knows how to fly hops in it though.
Ive broken 100 *team* points on mashtuur  without capping a single flag.

EX: the mosque spawn got you down? Me and my gunners can wipe the whole spawn out in less than 10 seconds by standing the blackhawk on its side and scraping everything into goo.

Only spawns that are dangerous really are the ones with 2 vodniks, and that just means you hose them down good and proper from long range before you close in.

Last edited by dracul (2005-11-21 15:12:44)

I love using the blackhawk on Mashturr City! Last night I got 98 team points and one kill by crushing a sniper on a rooftop with the BH for a grandtotal of 100 points being a pilot and using the support kit.

I earned a silvermedal as my commander got the gold...

I do a combination of all 3 tactics you outlined. Mostly I use it for flag capturing and assault support.

I find that the blackhawk is too overpowering, it shifts the balance in favor of the USMC.  I'd prefer it if it was left off the map or if they DRASTICALLY improve the MEC chopper.

The gun needs to be drastically upgraded or retrofitted to have miniguns as well.  Maybe even the anti-matter cannons that the MEC attack chopper has! Now that would even things up a bit.

What are the advantages of the shoebox that is the MEC/Chinese transport chopper?

dracul wrote:

doesnt matter how good the pilot is, when i play with my clan, us 4 wil hide in a building, and jump out with rockets and shoot the bh all at once, they end up screwed.

Pfft. a *good pilot* has the gunners hose those windows down before you get close.

You can go prone inside all you want, but the number of bullets and their blast radius just means you live about 2 tenths of a second longer. Keep in mind this is when the helicopter is out over the gulley even. Plenty of room/time to dodge any rockets you do launch.

key to bh piloting as a gunship is two things:
A: go slow/steady enough that gunners can aim properly. You can go quicker if your gunners are good and you arent shaking their aim up. IOTW, you can trade off stability or speed.

B: keep enough momentum that you can manuever. It is 10x faster for the bh to redirect  momentum than build it.

Note: this is me talking to my gunners on teamspeak, not some random mooks.

I agree 100%.  BTW, thanks for actually staying on topic.  I wish more folks would read the first post like you did, unlike the other shit sandwiches that posted on this thread.