Des.Kmal
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+917|7072|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Load times around 10 seconds? lol.

That with a bamf processor and vid card.

I am thinking about getting a 15K  SCSI hard drive. Right now I have a 7200 SATA, would my load times be any different? (My PC then with the SCSI drive, C2d E6400, 2GB dd2-800, SCSI 15k HDD, and 8800GTS.) any different load times?

Estimates?
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jsnipy
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10 seconds? Maybe the controller to 10seconds to init @boot ..

That drive will sound like a jet engine.

Why not go 10k SATA?

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-11-15 07:24:58)

Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7072|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

jsnipy wrote:

10 seconds? Maybe the controller to 10seconds to init @boot ..

That drive will sound like a jet engine.

Why not go 10k SATA?
im pretty sure 15K will be faster, bf2 load times wont be any dif than 10K, or are you just assuming?
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Drykill
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Whats the data transfer rate on the SCSI drive? I noticed a difference in load times when I went from SATA to SATAII.
Des.Kmal
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+917|7072|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
hot damn, nevermind guys, its over 300$ when i get the adapter and the drive.

omfg.
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joker3327
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+305|7052|Cheshire. UK
SCSI work well in raid arrays..... but they are loud....once they have "Run Up " they are fast at accessing data hence there use in servers.....  ...The WD 10k raptors have the same access times...but are better suited to a desktop environment.....due to not needing to run up they are quieter.... 

SCSI Access times 4.9 Ms <

SATA WD Raptor 4.5 Ms <


Obviously I type too slow lol

Last edited by joker3327 (2006-11-15 07:36:59)

misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6850|Indianapolis, IN

Des.Kmal wrote:

hot damn, nevermind guys, its over 300$ when i get the adapter and the drive.

omfg.
I have a 15k U320 73gb Seagate Barracuda drive in my machine. It's pretty loud when it spins up all of the way, but it kicks the SHIT out of a Raptor. I actually have a few u160 and 1 u320 controllers lying around, I can scrounge up a 34gb 15k SCSI fairly easy.
Dieselboy
Flicker of beans since 1986
+87|7004|Reading, Basingrad
If you're worried about noise get a Scythe Silent Box Heatlane HDD Enclosure - cheap too!!!
Des.Kmal
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+917|7072|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

misconfiguration wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

hot damn, nevermind guys, its over 300$ when i get the adapter and the drive.

omfg.
I have a 15k U320 73gb Seagate Barracuda drive in my machine. It's pretty loud when it spins up all of the way, but it kicks the SHIT out of a Raptor. I actually have a few u160 and 1 u320 controllers lying around, I can scrounge up a 34gb 15k SCSI fairly easy.
lol, i would love you forever. but im not sure my mom would approve. so what would you sell it for? the most i got is 200$.
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joker3327
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misconfiguration wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

hot damn, nevermind guys, its over 300$ when i get the adapter and the drive.

omfg.
I have a 15k U320 73gb Seagate Barracuda drive in my machine. It's pretty loud when it spins up all of the way, but it kicks the SHIT out of a Raptor. I actually have a few u160 and 1 u320 controllers lying around, I can scrounge up a 34gb 15k SCSI fairly easy.
For sustained data transfer SCSI will win hands down no contest....but for Burst the Raptors are faster
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6850|Indianapolis, IN
I wouldn't ask $200 for used devices, do you care what type of SCSI it is, Ultra 160 or Ultra 320, or even UltraWide? The hard drive isn't as loud as you think, loud to me is just hearing it spin up.

I have a IBM SCSI drive I know I have lying in my box-O-computer shit.

Last edited by misconfiguration (2006-11-15 07:42:38)

Des.Kmal
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joker3327 wrote:

misconfiguration wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

hot damn, nevermind guys, its over 300$ when i get the adapter and the drive.

omfg.
I have a 15k U320 73gb Seagate Barracuda drive in my machine. It's pretty loud when it spins up all of the way, but it kicks the SHIT out of a Raptor. I actually have a few u160 and 1 u320 controllers lying around, I can scrounge up a 34gb 15k SCSI fairly easy.
For sustained data transfer SCSI will win hands down no contest....but for Burst the Raptors are faster
well, if you can find on newegg a sata 3 gb/s raptor, then ill consider it, until then, i think ill go scsi.

I wouldn't ask $200 for used devices, do you care what type of SCSI it is, Ultra 160 or Ultra 320, or even UltraWide? The hard drive isn't as loud as you think, loud to me is just hearing it spin up.
lol, i was talking about the  controller and the drive. but thats fine too. umm, it doesnt matter to me. how much of a difference is there?
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misconfiguration
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Des.Kmal wrote:

joker3327 wrote:

misconfiguration wrote:


I have a 15k U320 73gb Seagate Barracuda drive in my machine. It's pretty loud when it spins up all of the way, but it kicks the SHIT out of a Raptor. I actually have a few u160 and 1 u320 controllers lying around, I can scrounge up a 34gb 15k SCSI fairly easy.
For sustained data transfer SCSI will win hands down no contest....but for Burst the Raptors are faster
well, if you can find on newegg a sata 3 gb/s raptor, then ill consider it, until then, i think ill go scsi.

I wouldn't ask $200 for used devices, do you care what type of SCSI it is, Ultra 160 or Ultra 320, or even UltraWide? The hard drive isn't as loud as you think, loud to me is just hearing it spin up.
lol, i was talking about the  controller and the drive. but thats fine too. umm, it doesnt matter to me. how much of a difference is there?
It's just the bandwidth the SCSI bus will allow... there isn't a single drive out there that can come close to maxing out a U160 channel much less a U320... it really only comes into play if you're running multiple drives in a striped RAID array that you would need the bandwidth.
Des.Kmal
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misconfiguration wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

joker3327 wrote:

For sustained data transfer SCSI will win hands down no contest....but for Burst the Raptors are faster
well, if you can find on newegg a sata 3 gb/s raptor, then ill consider it, until then, i think ill go scsi.

I wouldn't ask $200 for used devices, do you care what type of SCSI it is, Ultra 160 or Ultra 320, or even UltraWide? The hard drive isn't as loud as you think, loud to me is just hearing it spin up.
lol, i was talking about the  controller and the drive. but thats fine too. umm, it doesnt matter to me. how much of a difference is there?
It's just the bandwidth the SCSI bus will allow... there isn't a single drive out there that can come close to maxing out a U160 channel much less a U320... it really only comes into play if you're running multiple drives in a striped RAID array that you would need the bandwidth.
hmm, any ultra320 drives laying around? i can get a controller for 24.99.

how big is windows?

bah, nevermind, ill buy the controller and the hard drive. lol

Last edited by Des.Kmal (2006-11-15 07:55:31)

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jsnipy
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Des.Kmal wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

10 seconds? Maybe the controller to 10seconds to init @boot ..

That drive will sound like a jet engine.

Why not go 10k SATA?
I'm pretty sure 15K will be faster, bf2 load times wont be any diff than 10K, or are you just assuming?
No what i was thinking but nog relaying was that any gains you may have gotten form a 15k SCSI would be offset by the extreme amount of noise and $/GB. Looking @what joker posted, those benefits are non-existent. Try striping.

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-11-15 07:54:27)

Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7072|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

jsnipy wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

10 seconds? Maybe the controller to 10seconds to init @boot ..

That drive will sound like a jet engine.

Why not go 10k SATA?
I'm pretty sure 15K will be faster, bf2 load times wont be any diff than 10K, or are you just assuming?
No what i was thinking but nog relaying was that any gains you may have gotten form a 15k SCSI would be offset by the extreme amount of noise and $/GB. Looking @what joker posted, those benefits are non-existent. Try striping.
all the raptors are sata150, and my motherboard/new motherboard doesnt have that.
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jsnipy
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you can buy a sata controller just as easy as a scsi one ... but .. you NEW motherboard does not????

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-11-15 08:03:22)

misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6850|Indianapolis, IN

jsnipy wrote:

you can buy a sata controller just as easy as a scsi one ... but .. you NEW motherboard does not????
That's pretty odd if a NEW mobo doesn't have a SATA controller, SATA is the new standard. DEATH TO IDE!
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6947|N. Ireland
just get a raptor drive ;/ scsis are way to expensive and you need a scsi card..
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6850|Indianapolis, IN

leetkyle wrote:

just get a raptor drive ;/ scsis are way to expensive and you need a scsi card..
They are, SATA2 supports 3/GBs xfer rate, that's awesome for the prices they are. According to my HDD benchmarks, they still don't hold a candle to SCSI under huge loads. I have lots of SCSI drives, fortunately my business allows me to pull them from the older servers my company buys not everyone is that fortunate I suppose. I will be more than willing to sell the few I have, along with the cards.

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