I have been where you are. It even caused me to change schools three times. Whatever you do, if the abuse is only verbal DO NOT USE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE! Doing so only makes the situation worse, and it accomplishes nothing. If someone physically attacks you, then by all means fight back but do not be the one who starts a fist fight. I know it can be hard, but you need to learn to ignore it. If they make a wise crack to you, the don't respond. If you do they will know that they have gotten to you and they will have gotten the response they wanted. If you ignore the insults and put downs eventually it will stop because those throwing the insults and such will no longer be getting the expected and desired response and hopefully will end that behavior all together, but more likely will find someone else to harass.d4rkst4r wrote:
Im right now in a similar situation, I dont get bullied but lots of people make fun of me and stuff and im about to crack but i dont know what to do, ive never hit or hurt someone whiel intentionally trying to hurt them, I want to but i jsut cant, and i dont want to be taking crap from people anymore, i dont know what to do..
In my first few years at high school I got made fun of a fair bit. For the most part I either ignored them or responded in kind, and I never really cared. In the end no-one bothered making fun of me because when I clearly didn't care what they had to say they looked foolish. They still hated me, I still hated them, but we just ignored each other. It was fine. And now, I'm done with secondary school. RUMBA TIME!
Good on your son. Sounds like the bully was actually hitting him and such. Nothing like good old karma to give a swift kick to the nuts.
If my school didn't actually handle these things well (it's a private school), then I'm sure a few conflicts I had some years ago would've been much more than some shoving.
If my school didn't actually handle these things well (it's a private school), then I'm sure a few conflicts I had some years ago would've been much more than some shoving.
Uh.........that isn't karma. Karma would be the bully tripping and falling over a bridge. That is cause and effect.Hurricane wrote:
Good on your son. Sounds like the bully was actually hitting him and such. Nothing like good old karma to give a swift kick to the nuts.
A combination of the above, plus some, would work. The school should be informed of the situation (though I don't have much faith in them), which gets you involved personally by default. The bully's parents should be notified, in case that might actually do any good. Ultimately, a kid should know how to defend himself, as supervisors are not omnipresent. If your kid makes enemies with some huge gang-like faction in the school, however, it might be time to jump schools.Dieselboy wrote:
So, I'm just wondering what everyone elses views on dealing with bullies are,
should you let the school deal with it?
should you deal with it personally?
or
should you teach your children that bullies only bully people that don't strike back?
Your views please
Parents should make sure their kids are kept physically fit and have good nutrition. Being seen as someone who isn't weak will help them stay out of trouble.
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A bully gets his (her) power from fear, if there is no fear then they have no power. Teaching kids that they cannot defend themselves is ludacris and plain stupid in my book. Of course it is not the child (or adult) that strikes first that gets caught and is in trouble, but rather the one that strikes back or defends themselves. And after reading all these forums about cops abusing power, Bush is evil, the war is stupid, the war is great, Bush is our savor threads I'm about ready to say fuck it and not care anymore. My kids, if I ever have any, will be able to defend themselves, but will know that they aren't to start a fight or try and steal their friends lunch money.
Hmm, I don't know much about English culture, so what's a Chav? Are they the low-life drop-kick people at the bottom of societies ladder?LostFate wrote:
anyway one day my mate an his girlfreind we're just chillin on a bench when a bunch of little faggots just jump on them an start hittin them even the girl was hurt really bad, it was for no reason what so ever anyway a freind of mine smacked the leader in the face he ran off an that was that a few minutes later all the chavs from our year all these ghetto tossers come out an about 20 of em surround the guy an start kickin him in at this point we all just jumped on those bastards like (mike V) i got a damn few good hits in too an those fuckers never said shit again!
But by god, beating up a girl is pretty fucking low.
Mcminty.
Good for him sticking up for yourself is the best option even if the bully is larger than you
My last fight was in year 7, he tried to pick a fight with me the whole afternoon. When he punched me in the ribs I punched him three times back and walked away. He had a broken nose, and I had enough self control to stop, i knew he wasnt going to chase after me, he was choking on his blood. Sticking up for yourself is a great thing, but you also have to learn when to stop when you are fired up. I haven't been bullied since then.
Yeah that's pretty much it.mcminty wrote:
Hmm, I don't know much about English culture, so what's a Chav? Are they the low-life drop-kick people at the bottom of societies ladder?LostFate wrote:
anyway one day my mate an his girlfreind we're just chillin on a bench when a bunch of little faggots just jump on them an start hittin them even the girl was hurt really bad, it was for no reason what so ever anyway a freind of mine smacked the leader in the face he ran off an that was that a few minutes later all the chavs from our year all these ghetto tossers come out an about 20 of em surround the guy an start kickin him in at this point we all just jumped on those bastards like (mike V) i got a damn few good hits in too an those fuckers never said shit again!
But by god, beating up a girl is pretty fucking low.
Mcminty.
A small description to help - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
EDIT: btw dude - you and your son kick arse. +1 to you
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And Muslims are sexist?mcminty wrote:
But by god, beating up a girl is pretty fucking low.
2 years ago in school some kid was trying to bully me and take my iPod because he wanted it. So he says he is gonna stab me with a pencil if I dont give it to him and he does. It goes about half an inch deep into my arm.
So then I take a pair of scissors and drive it 2 and a half inches into his leg. Only got suspended for 3 days
So then I take a pair of scissors and drive it 2 and a half inches into his leg. Only got suspended for 3 days
bobby177 is a retard!
I think you did the right thing, even after you had talked to the father of this BULLY and he did nothing, I tell mine, if he gets bullied at school or anywhere else for that matter to Hit as hard as you can and AIM FOR THE NOSE because one of two things will happen..
One is that this nose will break and bleed and the BULLY will back down which is what happens 9 times out of 10, bullies only pick on those that dont stand up for themselves, and when you do fight back they themselves are the cowards.
OR two they do fight back but as stated in other posts there will not be any more problems because of the respect and courage to stand up against him...
My father told me that if I ever started a fight he was going to kick my ass but if got into a fight then finish it and dont take shit from no-one
GOOD FOR YOU I AM RECOMMENDING YOU FOR FATHER OF THE YEAR!!!
One is that this nose will break and bleed and the BULLY will back down which is what happens 9 times out of 10, bullies only pick on those that dont stand up for themselves, and when you do fight back they themselves are the cowards.
OR two they do fight back but as stated in other posts there will not be any more problems because of the respect and courage to stand up against him...
My father told me that if I ever started a fight he was going to kick my ass but if got into a fight then finish it and dont take shit from no-one
GOOD FOR YOU I AM RECOMMENDING YOU FOR FATHER OF THE YEAR!!!
Wow. This thread got revived after all these weeks.
Hey this is serious. A couple of years ago this kid and his friends bullied me casue i liked the Steelers and only got my Bettis jersy after Christmassome_random_panda wrote:
Wow. This thread got revived after all these weeks.
Get him in some Judo classes. Growing up in New York, I am very thankful that my father started me in Judo in the 5th grade. All fights go to the ground.Dieselboy wrote:
My son does Taekwndo and starts wing Chun in 6 monthscyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Teach your kids ninjitsu and they'll be fine.
Last year, my family friend, a big basketball player. Was getting made fun of at our school because his mom basically is a MILF, ill admitt it. Id rail her in a minute. But anyways, kids have been making fun of him for the last two or three years cause of it. Not really making fun of him, comments like. Oh i fucked your mom. Your mom was good in bed like that. Immature little shit like that, that builds up a lot of hate in someone. The kid at first, just started punching wholes in his wall. His dad, a fucken huge guy 6'7 doesnt take any shit. Just told his son to kick the shit outt of the next person to make the comment. But, just like every kid thinks, consiquences. Didnt really want to get in trouble for something. But, finally after a good two to three weeks after all of this took place. A kid named matt mad a comment to him in ou gym class. I see this kid charge at him, take him to the ground. But immediatly get thrown off him by this kids friend. Got thrown back on the ground and laughed at. Then a good two days later, in the locker room. He said another comment about his mom ( our parents are probally best friends with his parents, im decent friends with this kid, known him for awhile) and yet again this time walks up to him, punches him in the face. The other kid, falls back against the sink, with a blody lip, gets back up and him and two of his friends start pouncing on him. No teachers, in the locker room, just us. I get in, start pulling these kids off him, when yet i get punched in the face, while i pull one of these kids off him. I dont think twice. About two seconds later once i realize this fagget just punched me in the face. I get back up, grab him by the head. Smash his head into the locker. ( Now the other two kids stop fighting and are just watching us) He pushes me back gets another hit on me. And then i just build up so much hate that i start punching this kids face in. After about a good three to four minutes of me just smashing his jaw in. The bells rings, and i let off him. I go over get my bag and start heading for my next class when he gets back up, follows me out into the lobby of our school, and jumps on my back. Starts saying shit now about " oh you fagget, and by the way i hope your mom dies today you mother fucker, ladada" ( My mom has cancer, and shes not doing very well at the moment) So, by this time, thats the wrong thing you say to me. I turn around smash him in the face again. Hes bleeding all over the place, i have a black eye. And finally a teacher comes over to us screaming. And im done by this point, ive gotten my point across to this kid. Dont fuck with me or my friend. And he just jumps on me, starts hitting me. While the teachers pull him off me. Soon, enough we all our parents are here. Brought as all home. I have a black eye. Other kid got 38 stiches on his fore head. Now we are all suspended from school until further notice. We all had to go to the local police station for a police report. After about two weeks, me and my friend finally went back to school, sitting in our principals office with our parents telling our side of the story. After its all said and done, this kid that i kicked the shit out of got expelled from our school. While the other two got suspended for the same time we did, and got another 20 days of inschool suspension. Besides this, ive never had so much anger built up in me, before i just bursed out. So this kid expelled ever sense has always talked more shit to me, ( onlline). But, my parents just tell me to let it slide. Ever sense havent had one problem, with anyone, nor my friend.
Until recently. Me and acouple of my friends were up at Mount Snow in vermont skiing. We were inside the lodge. Look whos here, this kid and one of his friends, whos about 6'5 skinny. Starts throwing shit at me. I yell over to him, " Yet, want to start more shit again?" haha, there was a un-opened tampon on the ground next to me. I open it up, whip it in a puddle of brown water, that is on the floor next to me. Throw it over and hit this kids girlfriend. After about ten minutes nothing happens. Me and my friends, get all our shit on, walk outside the lodge. When this kid 6'7 charges outside and duffs me in the face. Does absouletly nothing, except puts a small scratch on my goggles. Kid pushes me over onto the ground. I have ski boots on, so its hard to move around, compared to him, who has snowboard boots on. Hes punching me on my back, when this other kid (one that got expelled from our school) comes charging out laughing. My friends get this kid off me. I get up and smash the kid in the shoulder blade with my ski-pole, as he walks back inside. This kid is done. I yet hobble over to him as hes moaning on the ground and kick him with my ski boots on. Instantly hes done, now this other fagget (kid got expelled) takes on of my 800 skis and throws out on the concrete path way. Im, heated again, at this fagget, take his head smash it into the snow. He gets back up, I punch him on the face, and start smashing his face on the picnic table, before all of these nearby workers, tell us we have 2minutes or there calling the cops. Rip our tickets and tell us to leave. Both the kids are on the ground as i go collect my skis. And start skiing down the bunnyhill to get to the car. Broke my brake on my bindings when he threw my ski, nothing big (5 dollar part). It was welll worth my 30 dollar lift ticket and the piece on my bindings. I havent recieved one message from this kid online ever again. I hear his parents straightned him out, after i was done with him yet again. hah kid had to get another 8 stitches above his eye,from where i smashed his on the picnic table. And, im actually chill with his friend (kid thats 6'7) finally. After he told me he was gonna kick the shit outta me for smoking him with my ski-pole, luckily nothing ever happened again from that day. All of this and the kid has two huge scars on his face, for him talking all this shit. I dont know any other faster way to straighten someone out then by kicking the shit out of them. Not only have I learned from this, I personally now watch what I say. I do think, standing up for yourself is something that your should tell your son. And if it ever happens again, I would tell your son, the same thing. Kick the shit out of this kid until they learn there lesson. Cheers
Until recently. Me and acouple of my friends were up at Mount Snow in vermont skiing. We were inside the lodge. Look whos here, this kid and one of his friends, whos about 6'5 skinny. Starts throwing shit at me. I yell over to him, " Yet, want to start more shit again?" haha, there was a un-opened tampon on the ground next to me. I open it up, whip it in a puddle of brown water, that is on the floor next to me. Throw it over and hit this kids girlfriend. After about ten minutes nothing happens. Me and my friends, get all our shit on, walk outside the lodge. When this kid 6'7 charges outside and duffs me in the face. Does absouletly nothing, except puts a small scratch on my goggles. Kid pushes me over onto the ground. I have ski boots on, so its hard to move around, compared to him, who has snowboard boots on. Hes punching me on my back, when this other kid (one that got expelled from our school) comes charging out laughing. My friends get this kid off me. I get up and smash the kid in the shoulder blade with my ski-pole, as he walks back inside. This kid is done. I yet hobble over to him as hes moaning on the ground and kick him with my ski boots on. Instantly hes done, now this other fagget (kid got expelled) takes on of my 800 skis and throws out on the concrete path way. Im, heated again, at this fagget, take his head smash it into the snow. He gets back up, I punch him on the face, and start smashing his face on the picnic table, before all of these nearby workers, tell us we have 2minutes or there calling the cops. Rip our tickets and tell us to leave. Both the kids are on the ground as i go collect my skis. And start skiing down the bunnyhill to get to the car. Broke my brake on my bindings when he threw my ski, nothing big (5 dollar part). It was welll worth my 30 dollar lift ticket and the piece on my bindings. I havent recieved one message from this kid online ever again. I hear his parents straightned him out, after i was done with him yet again. hah kid had to get another 8 stitches above his eye,from where i smashed his on the picnic table. And, im actually chill with his friend (kid thats 6'7) finally. After he told me he was gonna kick the shit outta me for smoking him with my ski-pole, luckily nothing ever happened again from that day. All of this and the kid has two huge scars on his face, for him talking all this shit. I dont know any other faster way to straighten someone out then by kicking the shit out of them. Not only have I learned from this, I personally now watch what I say. I do think, standing up for yourself is something that your should tell your son. And if it ever happens again, I would tell your son, the same thing. Kick the shit out of this kid until they learn there lesson. Cheers
"DO NOT USE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE!" To be honest, if verbal abuse dosent work, its really the only way to prove yourself. But, if you know that physical violence will only result in your getting the shit kicked out fo by the bully, then you take it to the teachers, and let them deal with it. But, in most schools teachers wont do anything, and if they talk the bully, itll just give him another reason to duff you in the face for quote being a pussy. But, I guess its just all on how your parents raised you. I've personally never been violent until my highschools years, when a lot of bullshit goes down. My parents raised me right, not to use violence. But, theres just sometimes when its necessary. Its a 50/50% chance that it will end the problem, if not just make it even worse. I've witnessed some things, when people just look for revenge on the person that knocked some sense into them, and itll just always go back and forth until, finally someone crosses the linemcgid1 wrote:
I have been where you are. It even caused me to change schools three times. Whatever you do, if the abuse is only verbal DO NOT USE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE! Doing so only makes the situation worse, and it accomplishes nothing. If someone physically attacks you, then by all means fight back but do not be the one who starts a fist fight. I know it can be hard, but you need to learn to ignore it. If they make a wise crack to you, the don't respond. If you do they will know that they have gotten to you and they will have gotten the response they wanted. If you ignore the insults and put downs eventually it will stop because those throwing the insults and such will no longer be getting the expected and desired response and hopefully will end that behavior all together, but more likely will find someone else to harass.d4rkst4r wrote:
Im right now in a similar situation, I dont get bullied but lots of people make fun of me and stuff and im about to crack but i dont know what to do, ive never hit or hurt someone whiel intentionally trying to hurt them, I want to but i jsut cant, and i dont want to be taking crap from people anymore, i dont know what to do..
Never hit first, self defense if you don't
Interesting story, if not rather long. One thing I did note that came to my attention (quoted above) was:two061vbma wrote:
'I get up and smash the kid in the shoulder blade with my ski-pole, as he walks back inside. This kid is done.'
1. In all the times I've been skiing (two weeks yearly for the past seven years) I've never really seen a ski pole that would do anything other than hurt a bit if you got hit with them. I wouldn't really think what I'm saying is that reliable, except I distinctly remember my friends and myself hitting each other really hard with the ski poles )the same way you'd swing a baseball bat.) and it didn't really do much. So unless you had some kind of lead ski pole, I doubt this kid would have reacted in any way other than get pissed off, let alone fall over, unable to move again.
hm, i mean, its not gonna hurt like getting hit with a baseball bat. What i mean by this. I snuffed him with the pole. He was on the ground done. (By this i mean i knew that he wasnt going to get back and kill me) he was done trying to fight with me. ( If you get hit in the right spot, a ski pole can do some damage)
You should always hit first and then say they hit you first. It turns into a he says this and he says that so its a wash. Punch him in the face first and you will feel better later.two061vbma wrote:
Never hit first, self defense if you don't
Unless he's smart enough to not hit back and instead let you take the punishment......................
lol real smart, then you just tell the police he tried to hit you and you defended yourself. With no witnesses it goes nowhere. Only a pussy would let someone punch them in the face without hitting them back.Bubbalo wrote:
Unless he's smart enough to not hit back and instead let you take the punishment......................
btw how many fights have you been in where the police were involved?