Once snipers have the zoom unlock and scope stabilizer, the supports drop like flies. headshots are pretty easy on people that don't move much.
Support may be the easiest class to play, but they're very, very beatable. Rockets from the Assault class wipe them out on the titan...or your own personal grenade spam. Use smoke grenades too...that pisses them off so much when they're firing blind, and all you have to do is spam rockets if you know the distance to them. If they have sentry guns, my advice is EMP grenades from your own support class, followed by a storm of regular grenades to soften them up, then smoke+rockets to finish them off. Tough to coordinate, but effective.
Also, out in the open? Support is screwed, they need the cover of their squad to buy the time they need to make full use of their LMG. I've used Baur+rockets to take them out fast, it is not that hard...probably hardest distance to kill them at is medium range, where you have to fire single-shot and they can just spam.
Also, out in the open? Support is screwed, they need the cover of their squad to buy the time they need to make full use of their LMG. I've used Baur+rockets to take them out fast, it is not that hard...probably hardest distance to kill them at is medium range, where you have to fire single-shot and they can just spam.
They will probably get nerfed. They are not only the best kit in the game, but the most unbalanced as well (which is probably what makes them the best).
Last edited by Dex Luther (2006-11-20 13:39:54)
I am a follower of the support, I love sitting there on the titan and killin anyone with the balls/idiocy to try and go for a console. However I Love going recon and blowin them to bits with the rdx thingy ma boba now Its ever so slightly more satisfying nailing them with that than a big ass support weapon. But they must nerf that thing I should think, the range on it is of a sniper and with its obvious nade spaming abilities and endless ammo points to be had, support is a no brainer for those of u hungry for that high spm.
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I disagree. For every sniper that kills me, I kill about 40. 99% of snipers simply don't understand how to use the kit. They hide in predictable places, never move, and are terrible shots to top it off.Talon wrote:
Once snipers have the zoom unlock and scope stabilizer, the supports drop like flies. headshots are pretty easy on people that don't move much.
Also, I rarely camp as support. Success with the kit is all about how well you use the map and flank your enemy. I'm almost constantly on the move.
the reason for support outsniping snipers is because the learning curve has dropped so horrendously that everybody thinks they can snipe. i take out so many idiot snipers (even when they hit me) that its not funny. basic snipers=headshot magical weapons.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
The stock weapons are sniper rifles. It is commonly accepted that recon is the sniping kit, but I would argue that support should be given that title. As long as someone is rendered on my screen it only takes a few seconds of firing to kill them. I can be so cocky with this kit as to take on multiple snipers at the edge of the draw distance and kill them all. At close range you are just as effective. Simply crouch + spray. Many of you seem to love the Voss, Baur, or Lambert, but I assure you, none of these weapons are even in the same league as the stock support guns which can wipe out entire squads. The support guns don't fire bullets so much as they point anger in a general direction. When I shoot at someone, I physically yell "Anger...this way!". And, let's not forget support's ability to nade spam. My K/D ratio went from a meager 1.4 playing a medic to over 2 and rapidly rising as support. At any range, support is the most effective class at killing infantry of any type.
I've only unlocked up to the sentry gun so far and am debating whether or not to get the shield and advanced ammo hub. The support kit is good enough at default to rape anyone, but some of the unlocks are surprisingly useful. Placing the sentry gun at the top of a ladder is like having a continuous APM there. It not only kills what ever climbs to the top, but it physically blocks them from climbing to the top (I found this out the hard way when I blocked several teammates who tried to climb the ladder of a building I was on). Also, I don't think the EMP grenades are given enough love. Every time I come across an enemy walker or tank I throw down an ammo crate and start spamming EMP grenades. Usually the driver gets so frustrated they abandon their vehicle, leaving it free for you to take. If not, it gives your team plenty of time to take it out.
So, not only is support an infantry killing machine and vehicle suppressor, it is one of the most useful team classes. You can rack up tons of supply points as well as Rambo your way to capping a flag or silo. Additionally, you can lay down suppression and cover fire as well as defend the Titan among other objectives. In conclusion, support is the best kit in the game.
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the beauty of this game is that everybody is a retard. i don't even have to put in the effort to find a good spot half the time anymore.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
I disagree. For every sniper that kills me, I kill about 40. 99% of snipers simply don't understand how to use the kit. They hide in predictable places, never move, and are terrible shots to top it off.Talon wrote:
Once snipers have the zoom unlock and scope stabilizer, the supports drop like flies. headshots are pretty easy on people that don't move much.
Also, I rarely camp as support. Success with the kit is all about how well you use the map and flank your enemy. I'm almost constantly on the move.
Support is the pwnage. Sentry drone, personal UAV thing, EMP nades, shield, unlimited ammo and badass weapons.
- Superior Mind
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Support is good fun, but each class has it uses. Support is kinda bad for titan attack.
This is how I see it
Recon: Anti Vehicle/Objects | Long range support | useful for going for a flag behind enemy lines.
Assault: Anti Infantry | Short/Medium range offense | perfect frontline man | balanced at all infantry roles | titan attacker
Eingeneer: Anti Vehicle | Short/Medium range offense/defense | defense and backline men when capping flags.
Support: Anti Infantry | Short/Medium range defense | good for squad cover and keeping a line safe | titan defender
This is how I see it
Recon: Anti Vehicle/Objects | Long range support | useful for going for a flag behind enemy lines.
Assault: Anti Infantry | Short/Medium range offense | perfect frontline man | balanced at all infantry roles | titan attacker
Eingeneer: Anti Vehicle | Short/Medium range offense/defense | defense and backline men when capping flags.
Support: Anti Infantry | Short/Medium range defense | good for squad cover and keeping a line safe | titan defender
Support is a good kit but not badly over powered. It seems to take more hits than the PKM on BF2 to kill so while easier to aim/shoot the default LMG's take longer to make the kill.
On the other hand the Assault kit seems much harder to use. Haven't got the Voss yet but the Baur (???) is much harder than the BF2 equivalent due to the huge recoil.
On the other hand the Assault kit seems much harder to use. Haven't got the Voss yet but the Baur (???) is much harder than the BF2 equivalent due to the huge recoil.
don't you mean CQC...Revelstoke wrote:
i love the clark and the wallhacks thing
perfect for QCQ
anyway...I've never really had a problem taking out support players, you just need cover. The only cover I tend to see support use is the wall of bullets they throw at you, but they eventually over heat plus the sentry guns are easy as hell to out smart.
I wouldn't exactly consider them unbalanced since they really have no way of actually destroying vehicles except for the fav. EMP spamming is annoying, but I've never really seen it being used effectively aside from annoying one player at a time.
Last edited by Megalomatthew (2006-11-20 16:40:05)
The Voss is TeH SeCks. Any assault player with the unlock can attest that the Voss is deadly, in both CQB and medium range attacks. And if you equip the PK-74 rockets, you are a force to be reckoned with, especially when you are defending your titan.
The support class is the class i play the least, so i have little experience with using the LMGs. I think i'm going to play more of it though, just to be well rounded. I have been killed countless times with LMGs/HMGs, which is evident in my K/D ratio for the LMGs. However, i have a 12 K/D ratio with the Pilum and a 6.something k/d ratio with the Voss.
Playing the support class in 2142 actually makes me miss the PKM in BF2.
The support class is the class i play the least, so i have little experience with using the LMGs. I think i'm going to play more of it though, just to be well rounded. I have been killed countless times with LMGs/HMGs, which is evident in my K/D ratio for the LMGs. However, i have a 12 K/D ratio with the Pilum and a 6.something k/d ratio with the Voss.
Playing the support class in 2142 actually makes me miss the PKM in BF2.
I can't figure out the Shuko yet. I suck with it. Hard. The Bianchi I love, it flat out pwns, but I've heard a lot of people say the Shuko is better.
Go for the advanced ammo hub so you can get replenish your ammo faster, plus get points for resupplies faster, plus be able to give resupplies whenever you're in a vehicle. It'll be worth it for you since you play it so much now. You still haven't haven't told us your thesis on the support NetBat upgrade though.
It's more like thisSuperior Mind wrote:
Support is good fun, but each class has it uses. Support is kinda bad for titan attack.
This is how I see it
Recon: Anti Vehicle/Objects | Long range support | useful for going for a flag behind enemy lines.
Assault: Anti Infantry | Short/Medium range offense | perfect frontline man | balanced at all infantry roles | titan attacker
Eingeneer: Anti Vehicle | Short/Medium range offense/defense | defense and backline men when capping flags.
Support: Anti Infantry | Short/Medium/long range defense | Good for getting easy kills with 0 effort. Put down a sentry and shoot where it shoots or snipe snipers | titan defender
- JdeFalconr
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I'm a fan of assault and engineer over support...never played support in BF2 and so far I haven't in 2142 yet...I have all my unlocks in the three other classes. Support just doesn't interest me.
i love support but i hate the machine guns. CLARK SHOTGUN FTW!!!
but ill always be a sniper no matter what
but ill always be a sniper no matter what
Last edited by INFERNO552 (2006-11-21 00:07:01)
but the ganz SUCKS i unlocked it on a new soldier thinkink it would pawn, but in a head on confrontation and gun can kill me, the time it takes for the aiming recticle to go down is just rediculous.
Its the same thing with teh Krylov (default assult for PAC) i find it even better than the Voss.
But why did EA make it so hacked?
The support NetBat is alright, it really pisses me off when im using active camo and some support spots me.
Its the same thing with teh Krylov (default assult for PAC) i find it even better than the Voss.
But why did EA make it so hacked?
The support NetBat is alright, it really pisses me off when im using active camo and some support spots me.
Last edited by Doms (2006-11-21 00:55:28)