Just a simple question that i like to ask firm believers in god. Stumps them every time
Delusions?
okay, lemme ask you a question. how did the universe get here? something had to have created that, and whatever created it, that thing also had to come from somewhere.
Mummy God and Daddy God
i personally think nothing created the universe, but has been here and will be here indefinately.
and its said our universe is one of infinate universes in our imperium or whatever its called
and its said our universe is one of infinate universes in our imperium or whatever its called
Thats like asking when did time start. We will never know because something had to come before the beginning of something and something had to come before that and so on. kinda like how there is no "largest number" it just keeps going on and on.
Man created god because of his insecurity.
Mr. & Mrs. A. God
Cherry Pie.
nice one there.Pernicious544 wrote:
Man created god because of his insecurity.
thats doubting the existence of god but w/ePernicious544 wrote:
Man created god because of his insecurity.
Fear created god for the control of society, its a social control, GOD is bollocks, and if all your bibles etc say don't take the lords name in vain or you're to but i basically 'fucked' why am i not fucked...
Huh?Netsfear wrote:
Fear created god for the control of society, its a social control, GOD is bollocks, and if all your bibles etc say don't take the lords name in vain or you're to but i basically 'fucked' why am i not fucked...
kinda like asking which came first the chicken or the egg
Basically he said: God did not create man, man created god.Donald O' Brien wrote:
Huh?Netsfear wrote:
Fear created god for the control of society, its a social control, GOD is bollocks, and if all your bibles etc say don't take the lords name in vain or you're to but i basically 'fucked' why am i not fucked...
yea cept billions of people havent died for the chicken or egg.
I got that much; it was the rambling afterwards that lost me.Pernicious544 wrote:
Basically he said: God did not create man, man created god.Donald O' Brien wrote:
Huh?Netsfear wrote:
Fear created god for the control of society, its a social control, GOD is bollocks, and if all your bibles etc say don't take the lords name in vain or you're to but i basically 'fucked' why am i not fucked...
maybe not for but definitely from, if you don't properly clean and cook itMECtallica wrote:
yea cept billions of people havent died for the chicken or egg.
I would post what I think, but I'll just get flamed .
Pernicious544 wrote:
Man created god because of his insecurity.
lost me tooDonald O' Brien wrote:
I got that much; it was the rambling afterwards that lost me.Pernicious544 wrote:
Basically he said: God did not create man, man created god.Donald O' Brien wrote:
Huh?
Whats hard to get? In the bible it says don't question god bascially, but for all those who do question god, i don't see them struggling, more like the people who do believe in god seem to suffer i.e. Through religious wars etc. hope that makes more sense...
Exactly.Pernicious544 wrote:
Man created god because of his insecurity.
People reach out to faith in times of despair.
It is faith (no matter what faith) that gets people through those times.
So man created God, for he will watch over them and lead them through times of despair.
Of course since man has created God, many of the despair is caused by this belief man has created.
Would also be the reason why less and less people in the Western world believe in God.
They don't longer need a God to believe in, since they don't know 'real' despair.
I concur.D34TH_D34L3R wrote:
Exactly.Pernicious544 wrote:
Man created god because of his insecurity.
People reach out to faith in times of despair.
It is faith (no matter what faith) that gets people through those times.
So man created God, for he will watch over them and lead them through times of despair.
Of course since man has created God, many of the despair is caused by this belief man has created.
Would also be the reason why less and less people in the Western world believe in God.
They don't longer need a God to believe in, since they don't know 'real' despair.
God is a personification of the hope for a new, better future. There is the ideal belief of being protected from evil and watched over, as well as the idea of having a better place to go to after death.
That's a good point about lack of Western devotion to God. As an athiest, I firmly agree. The reason that God is either not believed in or is only believed in when convienient ("I'm a devout Catholic... Unless you catch me while I'm drinking, gambling, or swearing at the TV...") is because Western society in general doesn't need that personification.