BF2S Forums An entire team of snipers...

Zero!. wrote:

unless the sniper is shit in which cast most are not

I would say most snipers are not very good.  A sniper ratio tells you that.

Zero!. wrote:

id like to see your ak101 defeat a sniper rifle at long distance...

at a range of over 100ft id say your prety fucked

unless the sniper is shit in which cast most are not

Unless he's got a SVD, the sniper is at a disadvantage against a real player... and even with the SVD, thats on a case per case basis.

Last edited by alien-DSW-Gen (2006-12-02 14:10:04)

I play sniper a lot....
I'm not god, and my stats are TERRIBLE from being a newb for so long, but I am generaly in the top 5 of the team with slightly over a 1:1 k/d. I have deffinatly made the "most flag captures" position quite a few times.

I take transport to the area of the flag, hop out at a distance and take anyone defending out. Move in and block off choke points with claymores (yes I have tons of claymore kills, if you dont like it pay attention and stop running in to them, thats what I do) I get in the most random stop I can capture from. The majority of my sniper kills are on people who knew where I was and were firing at me....All you have to do is duck behind something, zoom in and step back out, already zoomed on the guys face. Both of you only have time for one shot and the sniper rifle does alot more damage, and is alot easier to get a head shot with...

I'm a sniper who regularly has one of the highest eam work scores on the team so you "snipers are worthless to the team" need to quit complaining because you cant do anything but fire from a rooftop with the kit.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

dont_be_ss wrote:

Loose the ego man. Snipers have their use, only snipers understand this. We have saved your ass so many times, then you have gone on to capture a key flag without even realizing.

You saved his ass? What you sat there and shock paddled him back to life? You dropped him some ammo when his gun went dry? You repaired his tank when it was about to blow up?? Oh, right. Sorry.

Your logic sucks, according to you assault, at and specops are not teamplayers? If you admit they are, snipers are too, at least they can defend flags.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Killing one, two, even 10 guys doesn't mean jack if there's a ticket bleed and you are sitting there on the hillside with your thumb up your ass. Want to go save someones ass? Go cap some fucking flags so you can win the game. Thats my idea of "saved your ass".

Capping flags =/= saving asses. I thought you medic fucktards were the teamplayers? Why dont you do your job and cap flags.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Dropping claymores for offensive purposes should not be considered a tactic, nor dropping them into one way entrances for defense of an area you aren't even at. It's gay. Either camp the flag as defense, or move on.

Whats the plan then? cap em or guard em? If you call clays gay, paddles are even worse. If there arent any medics there wouldnt be any statspadding, but you dont hear us complaining?

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

When I see idiots sniping when they shouldnt I ask them "do you need to drink their milk out of a baby bottle also?." Most dont have a clue wtf i'm talking about, but some of them ask. Thats when I tell them "why dont you take the training wheels off your gun, and go get in the action."

Its because the thick grunts like you are there to get beat up in front.

Last edited by iPoon.be (2006-12-03 02:50:25)

yup. All of my time as a sniper is purely for the famed noobejector. Snipers are useless. end of discussion.

reefl3x wrote:

I mean c'mon, not only is [sniper] ridiculously useless as a kit...

Pft. Your opinion. You're wrong, just like the last 50 times the same thing was said, but you are dead right that 16 snipers is a sure recipe if you want to lose. In a 32-player server two, maybe three is about right for most of the game, until you get into a standoff situation where sniping comes into its own.

reefl3x wrote:

Sure there easy kills....

Only because they weren't playing appropriate to their kit (plus of course they didn't have any medics). As a sniper I'd say the same thing about easy kills with any unarmoured class if I were engaging at 70+ metres, and if the server response is good less than that.

FWIW I'm not that good but currently, playing almost entirely as sniper my SPM, KDR and KPR ain't too shabby. I wonder what yours would be playing assault

reefl3x wrote:

medics- Revive other players...Save tickets...heal players.
Snipers- huh throw claymores around?

True about the importance of medics. But...

Flags = life.
Flag defence = necessary, important.
Ergo claymores used for this purpose = good.

Looking at your stats you're obviously too busy getting all those lovely revive points to capture or defend flags huh? That's why my flag points are so much higher than yours. And although mine WLR is inflated it's also a reason mine is higher than yours... playing without benefit of mates to squad up with.

PspRpg-7 wrote:

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Sniper: Worthless.

My KDR > yours. My SPM is nearly the same as yours (probably a lot higher for recent play). And you call those flag points? I'm not that good; so what does that make you worth?

PspRpg-7 wrote:

That's not biased at all.

And you're not???

PspRpg-7 wrote:

But anyway...Medics (the ones with the IQ above that of a retarded worm) Are team players...

Yeah, and so are good snipers dude (ditto for any class)!

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

A well placed sniper won't win the map for you, He can support the players thats all

Actually I've singlehandedly been the guy at the right place at the right time and saved a team from losing by capping a sole flag for us to spawn at. Any kit can do this of course but the point is you can as sniper, and with claymores perhaps a little better than some others.

killer21 wrote:

I can snipe and I say snipers are worthless to a team.

Oh really?

killer21 wrote:

The only snipers that are beneficial to a team are the ones that can keep a team backed up so your team can get a flag....

...you might want to check your thinking for inconsistencies.

killer21 wrote:

I would say most snipers are not very good.  A sniper ratio tells you that.

It's quite true that lots of sub-par players go sniper for various reasons, so it may be accurate to say that most snipers are not very good*. But KDR is only one stat of a few that need to be considered in unison to make a meaningful assessment of a player's contribution... SPM/KPM in relation to KDR, team points/flag points and so on.

*But let's face it: most players, period, aren't very good.

Nyte wrote:

I'm the one that started it.

Now now, you've given your secret away already so there's no point in trying to maintain that persona.

Nyte wrote:

And I'm the only one that can pull it off.

Nah I play in a slightly different way than you because my reflexes aren't as good and my hardware ain't really up to it but I do okay.

SargeV1.4 wrote:

Snipers are useless. end of discussion.

Not nearly buddy.


And for all you noobejectors: nice goal in life to suck as a person.

IO SUCKS.  I thought it would be cool, turns out to be a claymore / frag fest.

iPoon.be wrote:

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

dont_be_ss wrote:

Loose the ego man. Snipers have their use, only snipers understand this. We have saved your ass so many times, then you have gone on to capture a key flag without even realizing.

You saved his ass? What you sat there and shock paddled him back to life? You dropped him some ammo when his gun went dry? You repaired his tank when it was about to blow up?? Oh, right. Sorry.

Your logic sucks, according to you assault, at and specops are not teamplayers? If you admit they are, snipers are too, at least they can defend flags.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Killing one, two, even 10 guys doesn't mean jack if there's a ticket bleed and you are sitting there on the hillside with your thumb up your ass. Want to go save someones ass? Go cap some fucking flags so you can win the game. Thats my idea of "saved your ass".

Capping flags =/= saving asses. I thought you medic fucktards were the teamplayers? Why dont you do youre job and cap flags.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Dropping claymores for offensive purposes should not be considered a tactic, nor dropping them into one way entrances for defense of an area you aren't even at. It's gay. Either camp the flag as defense, or move on.

Whats the plan then? cap em or guard em? If you call clays gay, paddles are even worse. If there arent any medics there wouldnt be any statspadding, but you dont hear us complaining?

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

When I see idiots sniping when they shouldnt I ask them "do you need to drink their milk out of a baby bottle also?." Most dont have a clue wtf i'm talking about, but some of them ask. Thats when I tell them "why dont you take the training wheels off your gun, and go get in the action."

Its because the thick grunts like you are there to get beat up in front.

YEAH !

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Oh really?

Yup.

Last edited by killer21 (2006-12-02 16:56:26)

i dont see why people consider snipers useless. i agree, that you get some lame players, snipers, with like 14 kills, 20something deaths, but out there, there are snipers like todd angelo, me, nyte etc, that DO make a difference to the team score. and the most important thing in the game is that the team wins, not that YOU make x number of kills. so if we, the snipers, can help you accomplishe that, whats the problem?

reefl3x wrote:

Im not sure who started this whole sniper craze,

How is it a craze you dickhead.

Need fuel? have some

Snipers>all

Last edited by ssonrats (2006-12-02 17:42:06)