Cookie.VXT
Bringer Of Cookies.
+178|6874|UK
id like to see your ak101 defeat a sniper rifle at long distance...

at a range of over 100ft id say your prety fucked

unless the sniper is shit in which cast most are not
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|7030|Reisterstown, MD

Zero!. wrote:

unless the sniper is shit in which cast most are not
I would say most snipers are not very good.  A sniper ratio tells you that.
alien-DSW-Gen
Hates snipers and says the "F" word a lot
+72|7112|Houston, Texas

dont_be_ss wrote:

Loose the ego man. Snipers have their use, only snipers understand this. We have saved your ass so many times, then you have gone on to capture a key flag without even realizing.
You saved his ass? What you sat there and shock paddled him back to life? You dropped him some ammo when his gun went dry? You repaired his tank when it was about to blow up?? Oh, right. Sorry.

Killing one, two, even 10 guys doesn't mean jack if there's a ticket bleed and you are sitting there on the hillside with your thumb up your ass. Want to go save someones ass? Go cap some fucking flags so you can win the game. Thats my idea of "saved your ass".

There's very few situations when sniping is a valid option.

1) You are drunk and lazy.
2) You are stoned and lazy.
3) There is a stalemate across an open area, with a very slow ticket bleed. (and that means if you lose a flag, you stop sniping and go get it back)

Dropping claymores for offensive purposes should not be considered a tactic, nor dropping them into one way entrances for defense of an area you aren't even at. It's gay. Either camp the flag as defense, or move on. Dropping clays because you are better at that then shooting your gun, since the clays give you more kills means one thing. you probably blow donkeys better then you play bf2. The valid tactic is to beat them into submission through constant asswoopings from full auto weapons to where they dont even want to attempt to cap flags, and sit there quietly in their non cap. Then you can refer to #3 on my list. If you can't get the other team to a point where sniping is valid, you aren't doing your job, or you need some more practice away from the donkey.

When I see idiots sniping when they shouldnt I ask them "do you need to drink their milk out of a baby bottle also?." Most dont have a clue wtf i'm talking about, but some of them ask. Thats when I tell them "why dont you take the training wheels off your gun, and go get in the action."
alien-DSW-Gen
Hates snipers and says the "F" word a lot
+72|7112|Houston, Texas

Zero!. wrote:

id like to see your ak101 defeat a sniper rifle at long distance...

at a range of over 100ft id say your prety fucked

unless the sniper is shit in which cast most are not
Unless he's got a SVD, the sniper is at a disadvantage against a real player... and even with the SVD, thats on a case per case basis.

Last edited by alien-DSW-Gen (2006-12-02 14:10:04)

iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6968|Belgium

reefl3x wrote:

Im not sure who started this whole sniper craze, but who ever you are burn in hell. Because snipers are ruining the infantry maps.

Sure there easy kills....but I want to play Bf2 the way its meant to be played, not w/ players dropping claymores in front of me & attempting to run.
sniping > you
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6831|Southern California
I play sniper a lot....
I'm not god, and my stats are TERRIBLE from being a newb for so long, but I am generaly in the top 5 of the team with slightly over a 1:1 k/d. I have deffinatly made the "most flag captures" position quite a few times.

I take transport to the area of the flag, hop out at a distance and take anyone defending out. Move in and block off choke points with claymores (yes I have tons of claymore kills, if you dont like it pay attention and stop running in to them, thats what I do) I get in the most random stop I can capture from. The majority of my sniper kills are on people who knew where I was and were firing at me....All you have to do is duck behind something, zoom in and step back out, already zoomed on the guys face. Both of you only have time for one shot and the sniper rifle does alot more damage, and is alot easier to get a head shot with...

I'm a sniper who regularly has one of the highest eam work scores on the team so you "snipers are worthless to the team" need to quit complaining because you cant do anything but fire from a rooftop with the kit.
Nyte
Legendary BF2S Veteran
+535|7191|Toronto, ON

reefl3x wrote:

Joined TSC kark 24/7 IO last night w/ some clan mates and the round had just ended, so new round starts & we start playing out the round, and about 2 minutes into the round I notice there are no rifle kills or other wise showing up in the top left corner where it displays the kills. But i'm seeing dozens of claymore & sniper rifle kills.

So I hit TAB & what I see are 16 snipers...Yes 16, not 11 or 12....16.
Its a 32 man server and all of MEC were snipers.

At this moment I realized BF2 has hit a low point. 16 snipers, I mean c'mon, not only is it ridiculously useless as a kit, but the fact that "ALL OF THEM" were using it was amazing to me.

Myself & clan mates were just laughing on Ventrillo as we racked up shock paddle kills left & right on these defensless retards. Watching them attempting to pistol us or pull off a "Nyte" close range sniper kill was hilarious.

Im not sure who started this whole sniper craze, but who ever you are burn in hell. Because snipers are ruining the infantry maps.

Sure there easy kills....but I want to play Bf2 the way its meant to be played, not w/ players dropping claymores in front of me & attempting to run.
I'm the one that started it.  And I'm the only one that can pull it off.
Alpha as fuck.
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6968|Belgium

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

dont_be_ss wrote:

Loose the ego man. Snipers have their use, only snipers understand this. We have saved your ass so many times, then you have gone on to capture a key flag without even realizing.
You saved his ass? What you sat there and shock paddled him back to life? You dropped him some ammo when his gun went dry? You repaired his tank when it was about to blow up?? Oh, right. Sorry.
Your logic sucks, according to you assault, at and specops are not teamplayers? If you admit they are, snipers are too, at least they can defend flags.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Killing one, two, even 10 guys doesn't mean jack if there's a ticket bleed and you are sitting there on the hillside with your thumb up your ass. Want to go save someones ass? Go cap some fucking flags so you can win the game. Thats my idea of "saved your ass".
Capping flags =/= saving asses. I thought you medic fucktards were the teamplayers? Why dont you do your job and cap flags.


alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Dropping claymores for offensive purposes should not be considered a tactic, nor dropping them into one way entrances for defense of an area you aren't even at. It's gay. Either camp the flag as defense, or move on.
Whats the plan then? cap em or guard em? If you call clays gay, paddles are even worse. If there arent any medics there wouldnt be any statspadding, but you dont hear us complaining?


alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

When I see idiots sniping when they shouldnt I ask them "do you need to drink their milk out of a baby bottle also?." Most dont have a clue wtf i'm talking about, but some of them ask. Thats when I tell them "why dont you take the training wheels off your gun, and go get in the action."
Its because the thick grunts like you are there to get beat up in front.

Last edited by iPoon.be (2006-12-03 02:50:25)

Toilet Sex
one love, one pig
+1,775|7011

PspRpg-7 wrote:

sgt.sonner wrote:

PspRpg-7 wrote:


Suuure. Okay.
Btw you have almost as much time as a sniper as you have medic time so wtf??
Noobejecter ftw.
I cannot stress how true this post is.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7092
yup. All of my time as a sniper is purely for the famed noobejector. Snipers are useless. end of discussion.
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VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6831|Southern California

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Zero!. wrote:

id like to see your ak101 defeat a sniper rifle at long distance...

at a range of over 100ft id say your prety fucked

unless the sniper is shit in which cast most are not
Unless he's got a SVD, the sniper is at a disadvantage against a real player... and even with the SVD, thats on a case per case basis.
What does it matter if the sniper is auto or not? the whole point of a sniper rifle is a one shot kill, and thats way easier to do with a bolt rifle...Its much easier to headshot with a L96 then an AK so at 100m if the first shot you fire from the AK isn't a headshot you will be dead if the sniper doesn't suck, and he knows where you are.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7066|Warlord

reefl3x wrote:

I mean c'mon, not only is [sniper] ridiculously useless as a kit...
Pft. Your opinion. You're wrong, just like the last 50 times the same thing was said, but you are dead right that 16 snipers is a sure recipe if you want to lose. In a 32-player server two, maybe three is about right for most of the game, until you get into a standoff situation where sniping comes into its own.

reefl3x wrote:

Sure there easy kills....
Only because they weren't playing appropriate to their kit (plus of course they didn't have any medics). As a sniper I'd say the same thing about easy kills with any unarmoured class if I were engaging at 70+ metres, and if the server response is good less than that.

FWIW I'm not that good but currently, playing almost entirely as sniper my SPM, KDR and KPR ain't too shabby. I wonder what yours would be playing assault

reefl3x wrote:

medics- Revive other players...Save tickets...heal players.
Snipers- huh throw claymores around?
True about the importance of medics. But...

Flags = life.
Flag defence = necessary, important.
Ergo claymores used for this purpose = good.

Looking at your stats you're obviously too busy getting all those lovely revive points to capture or defend flags huh? That's why my flag points are so much higher than yours. And although mine WLR is inflated it's also a reason mine is higher than yours... playing without benefit of mates to squad up with.


PspRpg-7 wrote:

...
Sniper: Worthless.
My KDR > yours. My SPM is nearly the same as yours (probably a lot higher for recent play). And you call those flag points? I'm not that good; so what does that make you worth?

PspRpg-7 wrote:

That's not biased at all.
And you're not???

PspRpg-7 wrote:

But anyway...Medics (the ones with the IQ above that of a retarded worm) Are team players...
Yeah, and so are good snipers dude (ditto for any class)!


^*AlphA*^ wrote:

A well placed sniper won't win the map for you, He can support the players thats all
Actually I've singlehandedly been the guy at the right place at the right time and saved a team from losing by capping a sole flag for us to spawn at. Any kit can do this of course but the point is you can as sniper, and with claymores perhaps a little better than some others.


killer21 wrote:

I can snipe and I say snipers are worthless to a team.
Oh really?

killer21 wrote:

The only snipers that are beneficial to a team are the ones that can keep a team backed up so your team can get a flag....
...you might want to check your thinking for inconsistencies.

killer21 wrote:

I would say most snipers are not very good.  A sniper ratio tells you that.
It's quite true that lots of sub-par players go sniper for various reasons, so it may be accurate to say that most snipers are not very good*. But KDR is only one stat of a few that need to be considered in unison to make a meaningful assessment of a player's contribution... SPM/KPM in relation to KDR, team points/flag points and so on.

*But let's face it: most players, period, aren't very good.


Nyte wrote:

I'm the one that started it.
Now now, you've given your secret away already so there's no point in trying to maintain that persona.

Nyte wrote:

And I'm the only one that can pull it off.
Nah I play in a slightly different way than you because my reflexes aren't as good and my hardware ain't really up to it but I do okay.


SargeV1.4 wrote:

Snipers are useless. end of discussion.
Not nearly buddy.


And for all you noobejectors: nice goal in life to suck as a person.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7066|Warlord

k30dxedle wrote:

There are those who snipe.

There are those who hate snipers.

There are those who have stopped giving a shit about this whole idiotic argument. Play whatever the hell you want.
That sums it up pretty well.
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|7110
IO SUCKS.  I thought it would be cool, turns out to be a claymore / frag fest.
dubbs
Member
+105|7071|Lexington, KY

reefl3x wrote:

renejak wrote:

reefl3x wrote:

Joined TSC kark 24/7 IO last night w/ some clan mates and the round had just ended, so new round starts & we start playing out the round, and about 2 minutes into the round I notice there are no rifle kills or other wise showing up in the top left corner where it displays the kills. But i'm seeing dozens of claymore & sniper rifle kills.

So I hit TAB & what I see are 16 snipers...Yes 16, not 11 or 12....16.
Its a 32 man server and all of MEC were snipers.

At this moment I realized BF2 has hit a low point. 16 snipers, I mean c'mon, not only is it ridiculously useless as a kit, but the fact that "ALL OF THEM" were using it was amazing to me.

Myself & clan mates were just laughing on Ventrillo as we racked up shock paddle kills left & right on these defensless retards. Watching them attempting to pistol us or pull off a "Nyte" close range sniper kill was hilarious.

Im not sure who started this whole sniper craze, but who ever you are burn in hell. Because snipers are ruining the infantry maps.

Sure there easy kills....but I want to play Bf2 the way its meant to be played, not w/ players dropping claymores in front of me & attempting to run.
hmm......playing it the way it was meant to be played??? as a medic whore instead or what???
medics- Revive other players...Save tickets...heal players.
Snipers- huh throw claymores around?
What is your point?  Snipers kill people with claymores.  Reducing the other teams tickets, thus causing the round to end quicker.  People mostly play as medics to get points from heals and revives.  If you are a good player, then you would know where to look for claymores, and how to dodge them.  Also, sometimes being a sniper helps. 

In an IO server, playing Dragon Valley, I had a whole squad of snipers defend the Vista point as the whole other army attacked.  We did not loss the Vista point during that time.  By placing claymores to defend the flag, and sniping the medic whores, and everyone else that came up the hills.
seb--morin
Im high
+152|7079|Montréal, Québec

iPoon.be wrote:

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

dont_be_ss wrote:

Loose the ego man. Snipers have their use, only snipers understand this. We have saved your ass so many times, then you have gone on to capture a key flag without even realizing.
You saved his ass? What you sat there and shock paddled him back to life? You dropped him some ammo when his gun went dry? You repaired his tank when it was about to blow up?? Oh, right. Sorry.
Your logic sucks, according to you assault, at and specops are not teamplayers? If you admit they are, snipers are too, at least they can defend flags.

alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Killing one, two, even 10 guys doesn't mean jack if there's a ticket bleed and you are sitting there on the hillside with your thumb up your ass. Want to go save someones ass? Go cap some fucking flags so you can win the game. Thats my idea of "saved your ass".
Capping flags =/= saving asses. I thought you medic fucktards were the teamplayers? Why dont you do youre job and cap flags.


alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

Dropping claymores for offensive purposes should not be considered a tactic, nor dropping them into one way entrances for defense of an area you aren't even at. It's gay. Either camp the flag as defense, or move on.
Whats the plan then? cap em or guard em? If you call clays gay, paddles are even worse. If there arent any medics there wouldnt be any statspadding, but you dont hear us complaining?


alien-DSW-Gen wrote:

When I see idiots sniping when they shouldnt I ask them "do you need to drink their milk out of a baby bottle also?." Most dont have a clue wtf i'm talking about, but some of them ask. Thats when I tell them "why dont you take the training wheels off your gun, and go get in the action."
Its because the thick grunts like you are there to get beat up in front.
YEAH !
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7190|Chicago.
Everyone likes or dislikes a particular kit. Thats their own problem.

If they get annoying, you must then procede to beat them with the "hated" kit.

Snipers are a part of the game. Don't like it? Go back in time and kill the guy who had the idea to put a scope on a rifle and increase the distance it can fire. Then you will moan no more. Oh wait, never mind. You'll find something to cry about.

It's part of the game. If you don't like them, defeat them. End of story.
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|7030|Reisterstown, MD

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Oh really?
Yup.

Last edited by killer21 (2006-12-02 16:56:26)

Jemme101
M24 Abuser
+99|6939|Valley of the Dragons
I dont get why the accomplished snipers, you know who you are , feel the need to rush into threads like this filled with posts that can easily be swapped out for posts in similar threads from last year.

Its usually filled with retards that can only repeat ... ''Snipers are useless'' ... for the gazillionth time. Who cares for their opinion anyways. You know what you are worth so why post here when it matters ingame.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6939|so randum
i dont see why people consider snipers useless. i agree, that you get some lame players, snipers, with like 14 kills, 20something deaths, but out there, there are snipers like todd angelo, me, nyte etc, that DO make a difference to the team score. and the most important thing in the game is that the team wins, not that YOU make x number of kills. so if we, the snipers, can help you accomplishe that, whats the problem?
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Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7066|Warlord

killer21 wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Oh really?
Yup.
Obviously you're untroubled by logic. Go you.


Jemme101 wrote:

...threads like this filled with posts that can easily be swapped out for posts in similar threads from last year.
New potential audience. You never know, we might just make one guy think a little before posting mindless anti-sniper drivel.
ssonrats
Member
+221|7084

reefl3x wrote:

Im not sure who started this whole sniper craze,
How is it a craze you dickhead.
bad_mongoloid
Member
+3|7213|New York City
You reap what you sow.  If you don't want such games don't play IO servers.  Once server operators see IO servers empty maybe they'll get the hint.
ssonrats
Member
+221|7084
Need fuel? have some

Snipers>all

Last edited by ssonrats (2006-12-02 17:42:06)

killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|7030|Reisterstown, MD

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Obviously you're untroubled by logic. Go you.
You want me to say that I am a bad sniper? lol.  Sry chief.  I actually know what I am doing...But yea. 

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