Pentium 4 HT

2006-12-03 17:23:47

#1

LockerFish: Member; +47|7161

Is a Pentium 4 with hyper threading a dual processor? I uploaded my "Rig Info" to my xfire profile and it says it had 2 processors. Also in my task manager I can set the affinity of things to 1 or 2. I don't know if it's a true 2 processor chip or if it's just the HT tricking everything into thinking I have 2. Anyone know for sure?

I also forgot, would it be a good upgrade to get a Core 2 duo? After christmas I'm planning on getting a whole new computer that I'll build myself. So if you want to see what I have now, my xfire name is rumblefishisonfire and my set up is in my profile.

Last edited by LockerFish (2006-12-03 17:25:00)

2006-12-03 18:08:57

#2

doc. josh: Member; +48|7000

no i dont thaink any P4 is dule core

2006-12-03 18:10:14

#3

DeCon_1: Member; +16|6976|Atlanta, Georga U.S.A.

No its not a dual core processor. Because of the dual threading in the processor, the "Hyper Threading", the computer will read the processor as having two cores but it is only the threads that cause this.

2006-12-03 18:11:15

#4

stryyker: bad touch; +1,682|7175|California

HT=Hyper Threading.

Its overhype to sell their chips. Its a load of balls.

Pentium D is the dual core, or for the good ones, Core 2 Duo is the shit

2006-12-03 18:11:24

#5

BigmacK: Back from the Dead.; +628|7206|Chicago.

On the contrary, P4's with HT are duals. Check this out.

https://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2966/image1ae7.png

By the way, I'm running a P4 w/ HT @ 3.4 GHZ.

2006-12-03 18:15:02

#6

TheEternalPessimist: Wibble; +412|7075|Mhz

P4 HT isn't dual core, never has been never will be.

2006-12-03 18:15:38

#7

DeCon_1: Member; +16|6976|Atlanta, Georga U.S.A.

No they are not dual, what you are seeing are the dual threading of the processor. I too have owned a P4 with HT and do know what they do and don't do. The only way this processor is a dual core is either its a Pentium D, Core, or Core 2 processor.

Last edited by DeCon_1 (2006-12-03 18:15:52)

2006-12-03 19:09:31

#8

doc. josh: Member; +48|7000

i read somthing the p4 with HT is actually a octo-core processer thats right 8 cores

2006-12-03 19:38:41

#9

HeimdalX: Member; +37|7106

doc. josh wrote:
i read somthing the p4 with HT is actually a octo-core processer thats right 8 cores

I read something that said pentium 4's sucked. conroes ftw

2006-12-03 19:51:32

#10

spud924: Member; +12|6908|The Sticks, WA, USA

c2d is a good upgrade and they have a higher FSB (speed) than the HT

Last edited by spud924 (2006-12-03 19:52:01)

2006-12-03 22:15:22

#11

Maj.Do: Member; +85|7207|good old CA

BigmacK wrote:
On the contrary, P4's with HT are duals. Check this out.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2966/image1ae7.png

By the way, I'm running a P4 w/ HT @ 3.4 GHZ.

There not dual cores, there logical proccesors not physical

2006-12-04 13:19:58

#12

LockerFish: Member; +47|7161

Alright cool, thanks for all the replies that made sense...

2006-12-04 14:54:40

#13

Slickdawg8: Visit TAW.NET; +58|7233|Long Island

yea...just to make sure u got it...all hyperthreading do is make it say that it is 2 cpu's, but it isn't, it is only 1 single core.

2006-12-04 14:55:52

#14

Slickdawg8: Visit TAW.NET; +58|7233|Long Island

Maj.Do wrote:
BigmacK wrote:
On the contrary, P4's with HT are duals. Check this out.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2966/image1ae7.png

By the way, I'm running a P4 w/ HT @ 3.4 GHZ.
There not dual cores, there logical proccesors not physical

i'm running the same thing i'm gonna upgrade though to core 2 duo in the near future.

2006-12-04 14:55:56

#15

BigmacK: Back from the Dead.; +628|7206|Chicago.

When I bought this from Dell, it said dual core.

*cries*

2006-12-04 14:57:25

#16

bullit: Tank Troll; +71|7145|London, UK

BigmacK wrote:
On the contrary, P4's with HT are duals. Check this out.

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2966/image1ae7.png

By the way, I'm running a P4 w/ HT @ 3.4 GHZ.

thats wot i got but 3.00 and i laggggg on bf2 when gettin shot at especially in css

http://bf3s.com/player/175948227

2006-12-04 15:00:50

#17

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|7005|UK

BigmacK wrote:
When I bought this from Dell, it said dual core.

*cries*

Never trust anyone over 30!

I've got a 3.2ghz HT (but I was friggen 12 with a £1600 budget damit I didnt know what was wat ) I swore I would never buy another intel cpu........ C2D changed that, but I may get an AMD FX-72 for the price of a E6700, makes sense to me, ish

P.s mine is also a dell, ahh the shame of it all!

Martyn

2006-12-04 15:02:30

#18

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7191|Salt Lake City

As noted by Maj.Do, HT is not dual processors. It is one physical processor, but the HT functions make Windows see a virtual processor as well. HT essentially tries to schedule data to be fed into a pipe for execution when the pipe would normally be idle. Because this is not a true second CPU, and things do happen, there can be instances where the HT scheduling gets interrupted and can actually decrease performance, not help it.

2006-12-04 16:39:38

#19

Maj.Do: Member; +85|7207|good old CA

dont forget HT uses alot of power too.

2006-12-04 16:43:58

#20

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|7053|Seattle

I have a 2.6GHz P4 w/HT. I ran some speed tests rendering video. When I turned the HT off, the video rendering went faster so I thought "cool! I'll leave it off so when I play BF2, it will work better"

Not the case. Random crashes until I re-enabled it. Just sharing my boring story...

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2006-12-04 17:02:19