hahahahaha, +1Elamdri wrote:
My whole this is this. Ok, lets say your a pro. Your basically the shit. Lets just say people know you. Important people.
Now, you play a game like BF2, a "balanced" game. You a jet, a J-10, and because your such a pro, people can't even compare to your skills. Even if they could shoot you down, you'd just call up Tony Soprano the next day.
Then BF2142 comes out. Oh my god. This game is so not uber pro. It's liek teh guns, they aren't as pro as you, because the damage that they do is sorta low, yknow? Your so pro, everything should be liek teh AWP in CS:S where you can hit someone liek once in the left shin, and they just die, cause liek thats just how pro you are. If people who aren't pro liek you and have a bunch of time to play can pick up a gun and be liek, a challenge, thats just not pro, yknow?
Holy shit he sounds like Jeremy!Elamdri wrote:
My whole this is this. Ok, lets say your a pro. Your basically the shit. Lets just say people know you. Important people.
Now, you play a game like BF2, a "balanced" game. You a jet, a J-10, and because your such a pro, people can't even compare to your skills. Even if they could shoot you down, you'd just call up Tony Soprano the next day.
Then BF2142 comes out. Oh my god. This game is so not uber pro. It's liek teh guns, they aren't as pro as you, because the damage that they do is sorta low, yknow? Your so pro, everything should be liek teh AWP in CS:S where you can hit someone liek once in the left shin, and they just die, cause liek thats just how pro you are. If people who aren't pro liek you and have a bunch of time to play can pick up a gun and be liek, a challenge, thats just not pro, yknow?
Anyhow...yeah, BF2? I'm tempted to microwave the CDs; I played it for a bit because I was bored with 2142 for like all of two days, and I sucked so bad. Tank whores would kill me left and right, and it was spawn-die-spawn-die on any map where a single whore would pick up armor and rape everyone. And I've played...oh say, 300+ hours of BF2. Or jets...fucking J-10 has caused me more misery than a funeral if you made it all into one lump sum (and yeah, I can fly it...but then I get TK'ed for it by a god damn gun-toting ewok in camoflage). 2142 is all about balance and teamwork...I can never go back to BF2, a game that screams 'whoredom for the win!'
wow, Magius, you hit the nail right on the fuckin' dome in that post XD i'm glad someone feels the way i do about BF2.
Squadplay has got an extreme makeover in 2142.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
at first i didnt like 2142 but i actually like it better than BF2 cause it has better squad play...you get more points for following squad orders ...like lots of time ill be playing and create a squad and people join and follow me around and follow my orders...very rare in BF2 cause you can get more points going lone wolf in BF2 cause you get 2 points a kill 2142 1 point a kill...didnt like it like that at frst but its lot better...and as some one else said you dont get raped buy jets or choppers..i know you can play IO in BF2 but in 2142 its more even!!
but thats my opinion:D
but thats my opinion:D
2142 has definitely changed the role of squad play.
Not that I have used a stopwatch so far, but I am sure the number of friendlies near a flag works exponentially on the clock. 4 guys will rip it down and back up again in an instant. Standing solo near a flag can take up to 4 spawn cycles to get back up, which usually has me chanting 'don't respawn, don't respawn...'. I really felt the pull for squad play a few times when trying to cap - about to rush it and think 'this is going to take forever - 'i'll wait for backup before standing in the middle of the paddock next to no cover'.
With the big bonus - as long as there is no J10 bombing my arse to hell every 15 seconds, I'll stick with 2142.
Not that I have used a stopwatch so far, but I am sure the number of friendlies near a flag works exponentially on the clock. 4 guys will rip it down and back up again in an instant. Standing solo near a flag can take up to 4 spawn cycles to get back up, which usually has me chanting 'don't respawn, don't respawn...'. I really felt the pull for squad play a few times when trying to cap - about to rush it and think 'this is going to take forever - 'i'll wait for backup before standing in the middle of the paddock next to no cover'.
With the big bonus - as long as there is no J10 bombing my arse to hell every 15 seconds, I'll stick with 2142.
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Oh, good, thats what I was going for.Magius5.0 wrote:
Holy shit he sounds like Jeremy!
Try playing big vehicle maps on conquest, like Suez on shuia, and you will notice a huuuuuge improvement compared to BF2. If you wanted to get a Tank from one of the flags further from the front line and bring it to fight, you had about 50 % chance of actually making it. Half of the time you would get killed either by a bombing run or by a TV missile from a chopper thats so high up you can barely see him. That always pissed me off.
Altho many people make the mistake of playing Titan mod only in 2142. I admit its a interesting concept and a good point farm, but I don't find it all that good. You have 10 minutes of ground fighting and than 2/3 of people move to titan attack/defense. At that point ground fighting, which was extremely interesting due to pods, becomes totally crap, due to only 10 people on the ground. And titan is ridiculously small and corridors are too narrow to mount any kind of tactical assault.
PS. I'm not 1337, I admit.
Altho many people make the mistake of playing Titan mod only in 2142. I admit its a interesting concept and a good point farm, but I don't find it all that good. You have 10 minutes of ground fighting and than 2/3 of people move to titan attack/defense. At that point ground fighting, which was extremely interesting due to pods, becomes totally crap, due to only 10 people on the ground. And titan is ridiculously small and corridors are too narrow to mount any kind of tactical assault.
PS. I'm not 1337, I admit.
So, in real life one side doesn't have a marginally better gun than the other? Armies have different tech...somebody will always have the shorter end of the stick. And just because someone has a more powerful, accurate gun doesn't mean that they automatically win. Skill still plays into it...aim, cover, timing reloads, etc. Suck it up.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Balance is where no weapon is exceedingly good over another similar weapon, though in battlefield it can often refer to the armies or types of weaponry compared.
Balance is not when someone loses a confrontation based solely on the way the game is designed rather than skill. I don't like getting lucky in my games, I like to know that me or the other guy came out on top because they are good.
Since you said that it gives first timers a "better shot" I can sort of agree with you. But it in no way assures that a first timer can jump right in and own. That's completely false. So, even if (as you claim) it lessens the gap between vets and first timers...Why is this a problem?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I believe 2142 is designed so that you can pick up the game for the first time and have a better shot at beating the veterans.
war is a bitch ain't it?ryan_14 wrote:
Players die too easily.
Hahahahaha, that first part is exactly what I was saying. They kept telling me it was balanced, so I defined balance and showed that wasn't what I was talking about. Read the whole thread.Toxin wrote:
So, in real life one side doesn't have a marginally better gun than the other? Armies have different tech...somebody will always have the shorter end of the stick. And just because someone has a more powerful, accurate gun doesn't mean that they automatically win. Skill still plays into it...aim, cover, timing reloads, etc. Suck it up.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Balance is where no weapon is exceedingly good over another similar weapon, though in battlefield it can often refer to the armies or types of weaponry compared.
Balance is not when someone loses a confrontation based solely on the way the game is designed rather than skill. I don't like getting lucky in my games, I like to know that me or the other guy came out on top because they are good.Since you said that it gives first timers a "better shot" I can sort of agree with you. But it in no way assures that a first timer can jump right in and own. That's completely false. So, even if (as you claim) it lessens the gap between vets and first timers...Why is this a problem?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I believe 2142 is designed so that you can pick up the game for the first time and have a better shot at beating the veterans.
Because veterans have less to work for. I don't see the same depth being in 2142 as in BF2.
i agree with you on the depth part. i hope they make something to do with ranking up more involved.
however, i don't have to worry about an untouchable jet or chopper whore anymore when i play 2142. you can't argue that point, because everyone knows that those pricks are impossible to shoot down with any form of AA in bf2. squad play rewards you, awards finally reward you. i prefer 2142.
however, i don't have to worry about an untouchable jet or chopper whore anymore when i play 2142. you can't argue that point, because everyone knows that those pricks are impossible to shoot down with any form of AA in bf2. squad play rewards you, awards finally reward you. i prefer 2142.
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Then what the hell are you complaining about?? Your initial post bitched about the weapons being stronger than others. People said it was balanced......and then you complained about that. So what do you want...balance or no balance.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Hahahahaha, that first part is exactly what I was saying. They kept telling me it was balanced, so I defined balance and showed that wasn't what I was talking about. Read the whole thread.
Because veterans have less to work for. I don't see the same depth being in 2142 as in BF2.
Veterans have less to work for?? WTF?? How is it any different than BF2? You rank up, you get unlocks. Once you get all the unlocks...then what? There is nothing for vets to work for in either game.
Sit there...think about it...it'll come.Toxin wrote:
Then what the hell are you complaining about?? Your initial post bitched about the weapons being stronger than others. People said it was balanced......and then you complained about that. So what do you want...balance or no balance.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Hahahahaha, that first part is exactly what I was saying. They kept telling me it was balanced, so I defined balance and showed that wasn't what I was talking about. Read the whole thread.
Because veterans have less to work for. I don't see the same depth being in 2142 as in BF2.
Veterans have less to work for?? WTF?? How is it any different than BF2? You rank up, you get unlocks. Once you get all the unlocks...then what? There is nothing for vets to work for in either game.
The learning curve for 2142 is much more shallow.
I'm not talking about the balance of the guns. I'm talking about the balance between a skilled player and a not so skilled player.
And again I ask...what is wrong with that? Why is it bad that a game can allow a new user to jump right in and compete?? Even though I don't think that's even possible in this game since "vets" would have several upgrades that would give them a distinct advantage over new players.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
The learning curve for 2142 is much more shallow.
Realism isnt good game play while balance is. BF2142 is a game. Case closed?
are u kidding the demo sux b/c there is no unlocks play the real thing its amazing. and dident u get that new comp 4 xmas now yer getting that stuff 2. u spoilet fat prick
you're a retard
I can see what flaming_maniac is getting at......because one of the biggest gripes of 2142 for me is the ranking system - sure it was nice in the beginning to be getting ranks every second day, but im now a major gold and i want my ranks to last longer! not 20k point gaps but more than the 2000 or so now (which I almost got in one good round thanks to a couple of expert badges).
I agree
Sorry to disapoint you... but.. *erm* Get the game anyways..
Helos are ment for retards
People die from looks
Sprinting longer= unlock
Better guns=unlocks
patch= t3h 4w50m3
Helos are ment for retards
People die from looks
Sprinting longer= unlock
Better guns=unlocks
patch= t3h 4w50m3
bf2142=public play and general fun.
bf2= competition and skill.
bf2= competition and skill.
heres a game ruiner if you fly a sertent aircraft over sertent vehical switch seats back and forth from driver to passenger u get all the medals and the highest rank.
Old. We all know this one. (I presume you mean the transport chopper and the titan by the 'sertant' vehicle.)Bullet5992 wrote:
heres a game ruiner if you fly a sertent aircraft over sertent vehical switch seats back and forth from driver to passenger u get all the medals and the highest rank.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Indeed, Bf2 0wnZ 2142ryan_14 wrote:
IMO, BF2 is much better than 2142. Does the 2142 patch make it any better?
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