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2006-12-13 07:46:19

Des.Kmal: Member; +917|7074|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Alienware Area-51 5500
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz 2MB Cache 1066MHz FSB
Windows® XP Media Center Edition
1GB DDR2 Performance SDRAM 667MHz
160GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ 8MB Cache
256MB Radeon® X1650XT
High Definition 7.1 Audio
$1,469 (no monitor)

Newegg (exact same computer)
Case (similar)
99% same mobo
E6400
Dont know what kind of RAM they used... so i just searched by best rating.
Best rated and brand vid card
Exact same HDD
VERY similar CD Burner
700 Watt PSU (best rated)
$1,012.93

Take your pick.

They really raised the prices lately...

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2006-12-13 07:49:32

FesterTheMolester: BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums; +157|7096|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer

wel, they do have to make money.... that is the point of a company

2006-12-13 07:56:01

Roger Lesboules: Ah ben tabarnak!; +316|7033|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

FesterTheMolester wrote:
wel, they do have to make money.... that is the point of a company

That's sure but im pretty sure Newegg make money also...you know when you buy Alienware its like Nike and such...you pay for the name...sucks!

2006-12-13 07:58:55

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|7105|Washington DC

Des.Kmal wrote:
Take your pick.

They really raised the prices lately...

(Not defending Alienware) ... but, does the Alienware computer come to your home as a bunch of parts, or as a complete unit? What about an operating system? That's $200 you forgot ...

That extra $400 or so pays for assembly, OS installation, testing, etc. You may want to do this yourself, or you may want to pay someone to do it.

Edit: after considering the OS, it is a $257 difference.

2006-12-13 08:01:48

Des.Kmal: Member; +917|7074|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

OrangeHound wrote:
Des.Kmal wrote:
Take your pick.

They really raised the prices lately...
(Not defending Alienware) ... but, does the Alienware computer come to your home as a bunch of parts, or as a complete unit? What about an operating system? That's $200 you forgot ...

That extra $400 or so pays for assembly, OS installation, testing, etc. You may want to do this yourself, or you may want to pay someone to do it.

tis true, but 400? how about 200, or 150. 100 for the OS and 50% for installation.

i built my comp at home in 30 mins. that wagers maybe 20, 50 for the outlandish.

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2006-12-13 08:02:41

JonnyNuemonic: Member; +22|7168|Dublin, Republic of Ireland

the alienware comp comes as is built and ready to use...just take it outa the box and plug her in...

I bought one at the start of the year cost me 3500 Euro just for the CPU no keyboard or monitor...and all I gota say it the POWER !!!!!! of the thing is unreal...playing BF2 or BF2142 is a pleasure when you got everything to the max...really makes the game more enjoyable..I'd recomment Alienware to anyone !

2006-12-13 08:05:37

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|7105|Washington DC

Des.Kmal wrote:
OrangeHound wrote:
Des.Kmal wrote:
Take your pick.

They really raised the prices lately...
(Not defending Alienware) ... but, does the Alienware computer come to your home as a bunch of parts, or as a complete unit? What about an operating system? That's $200 you forgot ...

That extra $400 or so pays for assembly, OS installation, testing, etc. You may want to do this yourself, or you may want to pay someone to do it.
tis true, but 400? how about 200, or 150. 100 for the OS and 50% for installation.

i built my comp at home in 30 mins. that wagers maybe 20, 50 for the outlandish.

I did an edit ... after the OS it is $257 ... it may take you 30 mins to plug everything together, but the OS installation takes another hour.

2006-12-13 08:06:49

smtt686: this is the best we can do?; +95|7087|USA

FesterTheMolester wrote:
wel, they do have to make money.... that is the point of a company

40% profit is beyond making money

2006-12-13 08:09:03

Cbass: Kick His Ass!; +371|7150|Howell, Mi USA

Not much of a diffrence to be concerned about. Besides, everything from newegg is "almost like" what alienware uses. Of course newegg will be cheaper... they use cheaper equipment

https://bf3s.com/sigs/bb53a522780eff5b30ba3252d44932cc2f5b8c4f.png

2006-12-13 08:10:27

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|7105|Washington DC

smtt686 wrote:
FesterTheMolester wrote:
wel, they do have to make money.... that is the point of a company
40% profit is beyond making money

Of the $257 difference, figure 2 hours or $100 for assembly labor ("loaded" rate might be $50 an hour) and you still have to allocate money for tech support, facilities, etc. Probably looking at more like $50 to $100 in profit (3-7%).

2006-12-13 08:40:13

theknuck: It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!; +45|7068|balls

Cbass wrote:
Not much of a diffrence to be concerned about. Besides, everything from newegg is "almost like" what alienware uses. Of course newegg will be cheaper... they use cheaper equipment

how is it cheaper? it's the same components? ??????

and if i was buying an alienware i surely wouldn't get that vid card, but i'm sure the upgrade would cost $200 more than what the card actually costs. build your own FTW!!!

2006-12-13 08:42:20

arson: Member; +99|7093|New York

What about the cost of shipping each individual newegg component? What about potential RMA's ? So for a few hundred more you get a fully working / tested build as opposed to having to do it all yourself... So there is the tradeoff. I built my own myself, so for me I wouldn't mind building. With regard to the headaches that happened along the way, I could do without them, and there were headaches all along the way. I bought from newegg, and I had to rma multiple components. This took extra time and added additional costs to my builds bottom line. To someone who doesnt want to go that route and wants the peace of mind of getting basically plug in and play system, to be honest it looks like a good deal to me. IMHO.
With regard to warranties, rather than have to deal with all the individual warranties from the newegg build the entire alien would be covered. In the long run the added up peace of mind from alien just can make sense for someone who wants to spend more time on the computer not just working on it.... IMHO

btw, its all outdated tomorrow anyway right? wink

looks like its all about the handhelds anyway..
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6129940.html

2006-12-13 09:01:32

theknuck: It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!; +45|7068|balls

i've bought numerous components from newegg and never had to rma, *knocks on wood* and am expecting a new power supply tommorrow. guess if i built people computers for a living my luck would run out, but i don't. and i almost always wait till there is free shipping offered. most recently, my monitor i didn't pay for along with a headset i purchased. just wait and it will happen. and how can you argue about reading the product reviews at newegg. i stay away from products that have less than 70% buyer rating. if you buy a power supply (or any product) that has only negative reviews, then you deserve to be screwed over for being stupid!

2006-12-13 09:24:26

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6978|...

(I hate Alienware, but ..) I think for what you listed, that's not a crazy markup, especially when you add in os and assembly time ...

2006-12-13 09:31:21

Scratch[USA]: Member; +105|7003

smtt686 wrote:
40% profit is beyond making money

40% is just on the product itself. Alienware has to spend money elsewhere (advertising, customer service, etc) therefore lowering that 40% drastically.

2006-12-13 09:32:19

BeerzGod: Hooray Beer!; +94|7026|United States

Alienware is a complete ripoff for anyone who knows anything about computers, or even a little bit about how to build them. However, it's not such a ripoff to the less-knowledged people who only want a good computer with newer parts (That don't say Dell on them) and have the money to spend on them.

Newegg sucks. Check out Zipzoomfly.com. They have equal base prices on products with most of them being a little less expensive... but the kicker is that Zip doesn't have sales tax and they DON'T charge for standard 6-7 day delivery. Plus they have the same return policies for broken products, etc. No tax and shipping charges can cut out hundreds of dollars if you're buying a full system at once.

2006-12-13 09:40:19

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6978|...

BeerzGod wrote:
Alienware is a complete ripoff for anyone who knows anything about computers, or even a little bit about how to build them. However, it's not such a ripoff to the less-knowledged people who only want a good computer with newer parts (That don't say Dell on them) and have the money to spend on them.

Newegg sucks. Check out Zipzoomfly.com. They have equal base prices on products with most of them being a little less expensive... but the kicker is that Zip doesn't have sales tax and they DON'T charge for standard 6-7 day delivery. Plus they have the same return policies for broken products, etc. No tax and shipping charges can cut out hundreds of dollars if you're buying a full system at once.

bah ... newegg > zipzoomfly (forget what thier previous deceiving name was) imo ... beside who can wait 6-7 days

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-12-13 09:40:58)

2006-12-13 09:45:05

CrazeD: Member; +368|7129|Maine

A much better comparison:

Alienware hardware:
AMD FX-62
Doesnt specify mobo
2GB DDR2 PC6400 RAM
Either two 7900GT's in SLI, or two 7950GX2's in SLI
EIther 7200RPM HDD, or Raptors in RAID 0
and like a 30" monitor
Around 6000$

Here's what I threw togethor real quick:
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813135024 - $129.95
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103751 - $319.00
ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231065 - $239.00
hdd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822148140 - 94.99 (x2) $189.99
video card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814161038 - $484.99
psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817128009 - $159.99
case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811133155 - $179.99
monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6824009089 - $639.99
dvd rom - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6827106027 $18.99
keyboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6823126179 - $71.99
mouse - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6826104191 - $45.99

total - $2479.87

EDIT: Links fixed, some things were revised as I made this list a while ago for another site - so some items are no longer carried by Newegg.

P.S. With a 32" screen, it is still way cheaper than the Alienware.

Last edited by CrazeD (2006-12-13 10:49:00)

2006-12-13 09:52:16

acidkiller187: Member; +123|7086

I bought my Alienware maybe a year ago and it was fkn expensive. But I still like her she’s my baby really pissed allot of my x-girlfriends off, I think that is why I’m still single it’s okay

2006-12-13 09:55:35

Mikew22: Member; +2|7095|NC

OK guys try this one then and tell me there not overpriced!!!!!!

AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-62 Dual Core
Windows® XP Media Center Edition
2GB DDR2 Performance SDRAM at 800MHz
250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ 8MB Cache
Dual 640MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8800 GTS
High Definition 7.1 Audio
Agia Physx 128MB card
W/24" LCD Monitor
As Configured:
$5,799 W/out shipping cost added

Newegg.com
Windows® XP Media Center Edition
250GB SATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/ 8MB Cache
Dual 640MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8800 GTS
VIKING 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (same Type of RAM but a diff company cause Alienware makes their own RAM)
Soundblaster 7.1 Audio
AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-62 Dual Core
Case - Aspire X-Navigaror (looks good)
Agia Physx 128MB card
W/24" LCD Monitor

$3,132.38 W/shipping ($56.49)

THAT IS A PRICE DIFFERECE OF $2666.62!!!!!!!! now tell me there not a rip off. And dont complain about building it and installing windows yourself unless you want to pay someone the extra $2666!!!!!

Last edited by Mikew22 (2006-12-13 09:59:50)

2006-12-13 10:00:42

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7057|132 and Bush

Roger Lesboules wrote:
FesterTheMolester wrote:
wel, they do have to make money.... that is the point of a company
That's sure but im pretty sure Newegg make money also...you know when you buy Alienware its like Nike and such...you pay for the name...sucks!

You pay for the people to build it and so there is someone you can call when it screws up. DIY means you are your own tech support... I support building anyways.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-12-13 10:05:04

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7023|NYC / Hamburg

CrazeD wrote:
A much better comparison:

Alienware hardware:
AMD FX-62
Doesnt specify mobo
2GB DDR2 PC6400 RAM
Either two 7900GT's in SLI, or two 7950GX2's in SLI
EIther 7200RPM HDD, or Raptors in RAID 0
and like a 30" monitor
Around 6000$

Here's what I threw togethor real quick:
mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813135024 - $129.95
cpu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103751 - $319.00
ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231065 - $239.00
hdd - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822148140 - 94.99 (x2) $189.99
video card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814161169 - $509.00
psu - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817103933 - $99.99
case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811133155 - $179.99
monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6824116381 - $326.99
dvd rom - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6827106027 $18.99
keyboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6823175104 - $41.99
mouse - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6826104191 - $45.99

total - $2100

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2006-12-13 10:07:52

CrazeD: Member; +368|7129|Maine

Kmarion wrote:
Roger Lesboules wrote:
FesterTheMolester wrote:
wel, they do have to make money.... that is the point of a company
That's sure but im pretty sure Newegg make money also...you know when you buy Alienware its like Nike and such...you pay for the name...sucks!
You pay for the people to build it and so there is someone you can call when it screws up. DIY means you are your own tech support... I support building anyways.

But you also know exactly how it was built, you know all the problems that came from building it, and you know every detail that went into putting that computer together that big companies might hide from you.

I'll trust my work over that of a robot any day.

2006-12-13 10:49:47

CrazeD: Member; +368|7129|Maine

Links fixed.

2006-12-13 12:36:15

Des.Kmal: Member; +917|7074|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

OrangeHound wrote:
Des.Kmal wrote:
OrangeHound wrote:

(Not defending Alienware) ... but, does the Alienware computer come to your home as a bunch of parts, or as a complete unit? What about an operating system? That's $200 you forgot ...

That extra $400 or so pays for assembly, OS installation, testing, etc. You may want to do this yourself, or you may want to pay someone to do it.
tis true, but 400? how about 200, or 150. 100 for the OS and 50% for installation.

i built my comp at home in 30 mins. that wagers maybe 20, 50 for the outlandish.
I did an edit ... after the OS it is $257 ... it may take you 30 mins to plug everything together, but the OS installation takes another hour.

the OS is only http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6832116049 $109.......

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