BF2S Forums Will they add more Officer ranks?????????????

imagine what would happen if you shot your officer in the foot with a pistol in real life lol

RAIMIUS wrote:

Don't mean to flame, but in the US military NCOs (i.e. Sergeant Major) and Warrant officers are different ranks. WOs are higher, addressed as Mr. and receive higher pay. (not absolutely positive on the address protocol)...small detail, but I'd like the money if I was a WO.

"Integrity sirst, Service before self, Excellence in all we do."
USAF

Warrant Officers are addressed Ma'am or Sir. They are non-commissioned but are still adressed as tho they are an officer.

Yan, that is a yes and no statement.

For the most part if you enlist in the military as a private the odds of you becoming an officer is shit to none. However, there have been instances in the past when some corporals and sarges have been reccommended for OCS, and did a stint in the military as an officer.

For an example of this look up Robert L. Howard. He started off as a private and retired in ~1992 at the rank of Lt. Colonel.  Granted he was one hell of a soldier, but it is possible.

Coolbeano wrote:

Also I think that the Officer term came about in the ranks of the Military as once you reach that stage you do less actual field work as office work, or so to speak. You're not just a soldier in battle anymore, you have power over people and have responsibilities.

Actually, and this is in reference to the armed forces of the United States, all commisioned officers are political appointments so they are holding political office.  The lower ranks (company grade and field grade) in the officer corps are given their commissions and are managed by the respective service but once they reach the rank of Colonel (Captain in the Navy) they then are considered for promotion by the Congress of the United States.  The President nominates officers for promotion to the flag ranks (general officer) and then the congress gives consent.

The office the flag officers hold are also appointed by the President and then approved by the Senate.  You cannot be a Major or Unified Command Commander without Senate approval for instance.  Retirements are also mamaged by the Congress.  A General (4 stars) may retire in his current grade if he serves honorably or, and this happened in the Air Force Judge Advocate General's office last year, a Major General (2 stars) was forced to retire as a Colonel because of inappropriate conduct.

Yan wrote:

eightFX wrote:

IMO it takes many many years for people to become those ranks in RL

Actually, if you join as a private, you cant become an officer. Sergeant major (or warrant officer) is the highrst rank you can achieve.

Many enlisteds can compete for entry into the officer corps.  Yan, I work with a Captain that was an Technical Sergeant before he got his commission.

REDTEAM wrote:

Not many high rank officers fight in the acutal Battlefield.
It would be point less to put a four star general rank because they dont fight they just command.

And you equate real life to a game where you can be healed by a bag you walk across?  These dudes need a carrot to play harder and that carrot is bling. Bling badges, bling ribbons, bling promotions.

There are less than 10 2Lts right now, soon there'll be 20, then 30, then 100, etc.  The next patch needs to offer some meaningful incentives to still play or these guys will move to the newest game out there.  The Golden Zipline badge is meaningless but maybe further range on weapons, better visual accuity, or stronger health might be good adds to seniority.

Omar Bradley, by the way, was on Omaha Beach on June 6th 1944.  You may not know what that means yet son but you can Google it.

mcminty wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

Don't mean to flame, but in the US military NCOs (i.e. Sergeant Major) and Warrant officers are different ranks. WOs are higher, addressed as Mr. and receive higher pay. (not absolutely positive on the address protocol)...small detail, but I'd like the money if I was a WO.

"Integrity sirst, Service before self, Excellence in all we do."
USAF

Warrant Officers are addressed Ma'am or Sir. They are non-commissioned but are still adressed as tho they are an officer.

Well sort of. When we refur to warrent officers, we say: "Mrs. Lastname wants you too.." and when speaking to them directly its Yes Ma'am, or Yes sir. The first warrent officer (at least in the army) is not given a commision, they serve under a warrent from the president. When they reach cheif warrent (2nd), then they serve under a comission from the president, thus carrying some of his authority.

Warrent Officers in BF2 could also work, giving the player the option to go either path provided they have enough time in one specialty area (kit), as thats what Warrent Officers do, their experts in their field, examples of Warrent Officers are pilots for instance but can be pretty much anything.

Oh, and its not hard to switch to an Officer as an NCO or Private. Its actually easier, because they generally like to send you to OCS as soon as possible, and not when you're like a SFC or something. I was asked if I wanted to go awhile back, but I'd rather stay in the enlisted branch.

Last edited by Ryan_Mercury (2005-12-14 19:41:35)