Durk_Diggler
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I just got done playing as the rebels with the RPG.  Obviously, for anyone who's never used it yet, it doesn't track (you can't steer it) which makes it a lot more difficult to hit targets at range.  Not to mention that it has a distinct parabolic arc so you have to aim a bit higher as well as lead the target to hit at range.  However, despite these distinct drawbacks, I was doing much better with the RPG as opposed to the SRAW/ERYX.  So I was wondering if anyone knows, does the RPG actually do more damage?  Do tanks receive lock on warning when you have them targeted?  Logically, I would think the RPG does just the same damage if not less.  And it would make sense that the tanks don't get a lock on since the RPG doesn't track at all.  Does anyone know some specifics to the RPG?
Jeckelcopy
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It takes 2/3 hits to kill a tank w/ a RPG....

I've been shot in an APC w/ and RPG, no tone as far as I know (not so sure)
DUFFKING
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Nope, I don't think there is a lockon warning, which is bloody useful IMO.
Kkookie
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yeah, I love that it leaves no lock-on tone or vapor trail, mucho stealthy.
as for the firing arc I could care less since I used to play anti tank in bf1942 and desert combat all the time.
Durk_Diggler
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Yea, BF2 is my first BF experience so I'm still trying to get the hang of the arc.  If there isn't any lock on warning though, I think that I would actually prefer the RPG to the ERYX in that case.  Because most of the time, you're trying to fight off a tank in your base and it's close quarters anyway, you know?
Roy1991
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RPG = new noob tube
It has crosshairs even when unscoped, splash damage & fast reload, making it one of the best CQC anti-infantry weapons, especially because the kit also has the DAO-12.
LOGAN
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Roy1991 wrote:

RPG = new noob tube
It has crosshairs even when unscoped, splash damage & fast reload, making it one of the best CQC anti-infantry weapons, especially because the kit also has the DAO-12.
that made me laugh, one of the best cqc anti infantry weapons?? that doesnt make any sense, how can an RPG be one of the best cqc anti-infantry weapons? you get one shot before you have to reload (which by the way, takes just as long as reloading an eryx or sraw) and the splash damage isnt that big (same as eryx/sraw) so unless you get a direct hit/pretty damn close to a direct hit youre shit out of luck. after some practice it gets easier to hit people at a distance (im pretty good at that now. ), in close quarters when everybody is bunny hopin and divin around id thinkm it'd be next to impossible. on the other hand, the DAO is extremely deadly in cqc, ill give ya that, but its an unlock so not everybody has it.

and i actually like the RPG better than the sraw/eryx as well, its more challenging so it makes killing things a lot more satisfying.

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~THE_LOTUS_POD~
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yes it was planned for it to be more powerful but of course the drawback is thats u cant steer it but they mad it more powerful cause of that
LOGAN
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no, it does the same damage as sraw/eryx.
~THE_LOTUS_POD~
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nope saw a forum and heard a podcast from the creator of BF2SF and he said it was made like that on purpose
LOGAN
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ive tested it in game.
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LOGAN wrote:

no, it does the same damage as sraw/eryx.
That's really disappointing that an older Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) would do the same amount of damg as a modern Short Ranged Anti-Tank Weapon (SRAW). The merely thought of an RPG doing the same amount of damage is silly and frankly while it's nice to see an RPG being used, against an armor vehicle it should be minimal damage if anything at all. Now again Humvee, Vodnik and even weak points on an APC or a Heli I can see it doing damage.  And before someone says, "But there is video of damage done to an M1A in Iraq via an RPG!", that wasn't an RPG that did the damage that stopped the tank it was an Improvised Explosive Device (IED).

So anyrate, yea I'm disappointed that the RPG does the same amount of damage to targets as the SRAW. Though I can see it doing "More" damage to infantry emplacements than a SRAW. I say make it do twice the damage of a grenade and expand the area effect of the blast radius.

Edit: Pointed out that RPG does not mean what I said above and instead is Russian acronym for Anti Tank Grenade. See: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=68595#p68595

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~THE_LOTUS_POD~ wrote:

nope saw a forum and heard a podcast from the creator of BF2SF and he said it was made like that on purpose
What podcast?
dshak
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I think it is not NEARLY as effective as the other launchers for CQC... I have no idea what the damage is compared to them, but based on my in game experiences I think it has a signifigantly smaller splash damage. this wouldn't make much difference against vehicles, but as far as an anti-infantry weapon I don't think the RPG is effective at all.
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Roy1991 wrote:

RPG = new noob tube
It has crosshairs even when unscoped, splash damage & fast reload, making it one of the best CQC anti-infantry weapons, especially because the kit also has the DAO-12.
WHAT!? You have no idea what you're talking about, the RPG is useless in close comabt. 95-100% of the times you will miss and IF you manage to hit your enemy you'll be killed aswell.
I hate it when people call the "nade launcher" n00b. And now you call the RPG noob tube!?. It's part of the game got dammit. and if you cant handle it stop playing.
Roy1991
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McCullough wrote:

Roy1991 wrote:

RPG = new noob tube
It has crosshairs even when unscoped, splash damage & fast reload, making it one of the best CQC anti-infantry weapons, especially because the kit also has the DAO-12.
WHAT!? You have no idea what you're talking about, the RPG is useless in close comabt. 95-100% of the times you will miss and IF you manage to hit your enemy you'll be killed aswell.
I hate it when people call the "nade launcher" n00b. And now you call the RPG noob tube!?. It's part of the game got dammit. and if you cant handle it stop playing.
I don't call the GL noob, just those people who fire it right at their own feet all the time, and can't hit anything with it at bigger distances.

Maybe you should try the RPG in CQC
1 round at their feet, and they're dead, though it's not as effective as the GL of course.
95-100% miss?! lol
Ever heard of aiming?
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i like RPG fire and forget no need to stand there to get shot tying to guid ur missles
LOGAN
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the RPG takes practice to get good at (just like in DC, remember your roots!), so i dont see how you could call it a newb tube.
Roy1991
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LOGAN wrote:

the RPG takes practice to get good at (just like in DC, remember your roots!), so i dont see how you could call it a newb tube.
It's like with the grenade launchers, if you manage to hit something with it from further away, props to you
It's just all the people firing it right at their feet, killing themselves & the enemy.
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Personally i think the rpg is far more effect overall than the SRAW or ERYX. Personally i'm more accurate with it and the drop though a turn off to post is actually far more useful than you think.I gave an examplein another thread already about this but here goes.

Think about a vehicle behind a low wall with the SRAW/ERYX you likely would be able to hit it because at medium long range you wont be able to guide the rocket over the wall and into the vehicles roof because the control of the rocket is not that good.(it is possible, i've done it. But by no meens easy.) On the other hand with the rpg you just aim right and the rocket basically will drop right onto their roof. as well i find it easier to hit moving targets with the rpg especially easier to hit weapon spot in armor.

With the extra pluses of no lock on tone or having to steer it. You can shoot the rpg switch toyour main weapon and keep on taking care of business without missing a beat.
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kilroy0097 wrote:

LOGAN wrote:

no, it does the same damage as sraw/eryx.
That's really disappointing that an older Rocket Propelled Grenade (RPG) would do the...
RPG is not the Rocket Propelled Grenade. Its in Russian: "Ruchnoy Protivotankoviy Granatomyot." In translation: Ruchnoy (Handed) , Protivotankoviy (Anti-Tank), Granatomyot (Grenade Launcher). So RPG is a "Handed Anti-Tank Grenade Launcher." And its very deadly against armor in the real life. Its just language differences that in English Grenade Launcher is M203 or same, but in Russian word Grenade can be used in different situations.( trust me, I spk Russian ) . Also RPG was developped with purpose of mobile anti-tank combat in Soviet army. So main idea was that 1 shell will infiltrate the armor and then damage the tank crew. Probably thats why it calls Grenade Launcher instead of Rocket Launcher. Russian language doesnt have <Rocket Launcher>. So often people make mistakes in translations . And thats why RPG has the same meaning as a Rocket Launcher just calls in different way.


GL HF

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dshak
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you don't have to speak russian to know that... its in the BF2 instruction booklet. also... you probably don't speak very good russian, or you would know there is a russian translation for 'rocket launcher'...

Ракетная пусковая установка

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Dr.Battlefield
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dshak wrote:

you don't have to speak russian to know that... its in the BF2 instruction booklet
Yeap I saw that too. But to confirm... + ppl who downloaded the game dont have  booklets

+ about using Rocket launcher in Russian.. hmmmmm It just sounds not really good and with the way russian words built its easier to change the word construction instead of making it sounds not comfortable. Yes there is a word hmm like 'Raketnitsa' which means rocket launcher, but this word is unofficial and usually means weapon like SRAW or its prototipes.

Last edited by Dr.Battlefield (2005-11-29 11:35:17)

dshak
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finally, I downloaded the game, and I have the instructions. came as a pdf. i'm not trying to pick a fight btw, just a little point counter point

Вы не тратите половину вашей жизни, изучающей отношения Холодной войны между Соединенными Штатами и Советским Союзом, не подбирая некоторого собственного русского, и я натолкнулся на слова для Ракетной пусковой установки в больше чем одном случае также, поскольку Вы могли бы вообразить.

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ê‡ÍÂÚÌÓÈ ÔÛÒÍÓ‚ÓÈ ÛÒÚ‡ÌÓ‚ÍË thats not actually Rocket Launcher, I mean its a Stationary Rocket Launcher Station (ballistic transcontinental, prolly Nuclear Silo, because of cold war) but not the mobile Anti-Tank rocket, which I was talking about.  Dude do you spk Russian or there is a translation?

I'm not trying to pick a fight either

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