BF2S Forums How old is the grand canyon?

I totally agree.  Good thread!

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What The Fuck!!!!???

Commie Killer wrote:

<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:

so wouldnt that disprove religion right there?

Yea, but you have to be politically correct, you cant offend anyone. WHAT THE FUCK???

but they are offending us by trying not to offend people

So are we discussing the age of the Grand Canyon or just piling on GSB yet again? 

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The rubidium- strontium method, however, has dated the Cardenas basalt at one billion years and the lava flow on top of the canyon at 1.3 billion years. This is clearly impossible! Rocks on the bottom of the canyon are 300 million years younger than very recent rocks on the very top of the canyon! These dates were obtained by ICR from samples they sent to several independent dating labs. Something is amiss, either in the interpretation of the rocks, the dating methods, or both.

Stingray24 wrote:

So are we discussing the age of the Grand Canyon or just piling on GSB yet again? 

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The rubidium- strontium method, however, has dated the Cardenas basalt at one billion years and the lava flow on top of the canyon at 1.3 billion years. This is clearly impossible! Rocks on the bottom of the canyon are 300 million years younger than very recent rocks on the very top of the canyon! These dates were obtained by ICR from samples they sent to several independent dating labs. Something is amiss, either in the interpretation of the rocks, the dating methods, or both.

The dating methods do have several problems, but the implications are still that the earth is much older than young-earth creationists would have you believe.  The old-earth ones at least have a modicum of rationality to them.

The major rock layers exposed in the Grand Canyon range in age from 200 million to nearly 2 billion years old.  Uplift of the region started about 75 million years ago in the Laramide orogeny, a mountain-building event that is largely responsible for creating the Rocky Mountains to the east. Accelerated uplift started 17 million years ago when the Colorado Plateaus (on which the area is located) were being formed. In total these layers were uplifted an estimated 10,000 feet (3000 m) which enabled the ancestral Colorado River to cut its channel into the four plateaus that constitute this area. But the canyon did not start to form until 5.3 million years ago when the Gulf of California opened up and thus lowered the river's base level (its lowest point) from that of large inland lakes to sea level.

These guys have shit for breakfast.

This, my friends, is suppression of information due to religion.  Didn't other countries rules by their religion do this?

And doesn't this mean that the government is supporting a specific religion over another?

Don't get me wrong, I'm LDS, but I still believe in all these things, such as OLDER THAN 7000 YEARS STUFF.  It's hard to comprehend anything odler than 7000 years, let alone millions, but hey, the data fits.

Last edited by [RDH]Warlord (2006-12-30 18:12:20)

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I believe in God, but the peculiar creationist idea that the Earth must be a certain age is just skewed. Who's to say how long 'God' spent doing anything, and what His idea of time would be?

Pretty much....  If I were Christian, I'd probably see the idea of "6 days" in Genesis as a metaphor, not an exact figure.  It's like how the term "year" meant different things to different cultures.  You have people in the Old Testament that live for hundreds of years, but in many cultures, a year was effectively a season in our terminology.

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-12-30 20:44:37)

*sigh* Mormons.  The real name of the religion is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or LDS, but since the main difference between us and Christianity is another book called the Book of Mormon, so we're, apparently, Mormons.

[RDH]Warlord wrote:

*sigh* Mormons.  The real name of the religion is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or LDS, but since the main difference between us and Christianity is another book called the Book of Mormon, so we're, apparently, Mormons.

Mormonism is an interesting religion, but I have to admit...  the LDS acronym is kind of awkward.  It's kind of close to LD (learning disability).

cospengle wrote:

Didn't the creationists die out ages ago?

You apparently haven't visited the "Bible Belt" in the southern US. These people believe in creationism, scoff at facts, laugh at truth and generally don't brush their teeth often enough...