anyone else noticed a lack of teamplay on armor maps recently? since the possibility of IO its enormously hard to find a server where teammates driving armor spawn as engineer. the whole concept of driving in a convoy is going down the drain. and even when the rare situation appears where i'm in an apc and another squadmember actually is engineer in a tank on my side he seems always to flee from every encounter with enemy armor involved. why is it so hard to understand that sticking together in situations like this gives you an enormous advantage because of the ability to repair each other during combat. guess i'll go back to be a medic on IO servers again *rolleyes* to avoid further frustraition.
i know becasue a bullet might hit the tank so they leave you
I see your point, although isn't it those rare moments when your driving a tank in a convoy of armour that seem to make bf2 worth while?
This was a problem waaaaaay before IO. There is no sense of teamwork in this game. Get over it. Join a clan if you want teamwork.
Thats sounds like a great idea, a few people don't do it so you give up altogether.
[NeMe$i$.Dr4g0ncl4w] wrote:
This was a problem waaaaaay before IO. There is no sense of teamwork in this game. Get over it. Join a clan if you want teamwork.
Was on a server yesterday 6 out of 29 in squads
you guessed it: we lost
In a squad? then stick together otherwise you are wasting space
you guessed it: we lost
In a squad? then stick together otherwise you are wasting space
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
Quit complaining and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I don't mean to sound harsh, but you gotta put your best foot foward in this game. YOU make a squad. YOU invite everybody who is unassignned to your squad. If that doesn't work JOIN a squad where there is another engineer on it and convoy togeather. YOU back him up or rush in front of his tank/apc to save him from enemy fire. I love doing this on Karkand and my squad and I always own other armor/apc's. Always spot infantry anywhere, even if you saw a guy somewhere spot it, and your man will know you spotted there for a reason. APcs have amazing splash damage. And the Tank's machine gun is extremely accurate for infantry on the ground.
When you get people on your squad, talk to them and ask if they have a mic, if no response, ask them to give you a 'roger that' if they can hear you. Be sure to always update your objectives. (attack this, defend that) When a guy dies, ask him to spawn as whatever kit you need.
I was a squad leader on a team and invited just random people (I did check their rank though) and we formed a 5 man squad. We won every round. I was always in the tank, and whenever somebody needed to spawn my gunner bailed out. I always had a man with me who was engy and I always gave them cover when advancing a flag.
When you get people on your squad, talk to them and ask if they have a mic, if no response, ask them to give you a 'roger that' if they can hear you. Be sure to always update your objectives. (attack this, defend that) When a guy dies, ask him to spawn as whatever kit you need.
I was a squad leader on a team and invited just random people (I did check their rank though) and we formed a 5 man squad. We won every round. I was always in the tank, and whenever somebody needed to spawn my gunner bailed out. I always had a man with me who was engy and I always gave them cover when advancing a flag.
Last edited by Im_Dooomed (2007-02-16 13:45:04)
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3 words PLAY PROJECT REALITY
This mod also has a lack of teamwork when it comes to driving tanks and apc's. You either have a gunner, who never shoots when he's told to, or a driver who never slows down to line up a shot.henno13 wrote:
3 words PLAY PROJECT REALITY
Well, alot of times that i'm in a tank are because its just there. If I just capped a flag in whatever kit and a tank spawns, I'm not gonna leave it empty for an enemy to grab and retake the flag. Other times, if I'm dead and I know where an empty tank is, I'll spawn there as an engineer, my stats reflect that pretty well.
So, its more of a matter of how well a team player certain players are, and from the "hey give me a ride" situation, you know full well very few people give a shit about anyone else. I try to play like a decent person, everyone knows how fun it is to play with an asshole, none (most of the time).
So, its more of a matter of how well a team player certain players are, and from the "hey give me a ride" situation, you know full well very few people give a shit about anyone else. I try to play like a decent person, everyone knows how fun it is to play with an asshole, none (most of the time).
I rather be Anti-Tank, and thats for 3 reasons
1: If I even find a sensible server with armor, its about a 1 in a million chance that I will drive together with an other armor driver
2: I need Armor + AT time, so its basically catching two flies at once
3: If I manage to loose a 1v1 tank fight, I can quickly hop out, bunny around and fire my missle and the tank.
1: If I even find a sensible server with armor, its about a 1 in a million chance that I will drive together with an other armor driver
2: I need Armor + AT time, so its basically catching two flies at once
3: If I manage to loose a 1v1 tank fight, I can quickly hop out, bunny around and fire my missle and the tank.
Last edited by RDMC(2) (2007-02-16 14:40:02)
I prefer to be a good class in armour so when i bail when my Tanks on fire i can actually kill people. At more than 2 metres away.
if you were good in a tank, you would be engy always. After taking out their tank and a few infantry, and your tank is on fire, all you need is your smoke screen and a few quick seconds of repairing so you can safely retreat somewhere and repair to full health.
Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.
In my experience, I've seen more teamwork in PoE2 than PR. The methods they try to use in PR to force teamwork can just be annoying.3 words PLAY PROJECT REALITY
I am goood in the Tank,i'm not super but i'm good at it,it's not the hardest vehicle in the game to be good at. Thing is that smoke screen doesn't really work,people still shoot at your Red tag in the tank. I just like to be able to kill the infantry that destroyed my Tank.Im_Dooomed wrote:
if you were good in a tank, you would be engy always. After taking out their tank and a few infantry, and your tank is on fire, all you need is your smoke screen and a few quick seconds of repairing so you can safely retreat somewhere and repair to full health.
As soon as you hit half damage cower around a corner then pop smoke pull that wrench out and get wankers whiplash frantically repairing your armor. Then the noob tuber wah1188 will steal it, kill you with it and keep it from you the rest of the round depriving you and your team.
Amen.RDMC(2) wrote:
I rather be Anti-Tank, and thats for 3 reasons
1: If I even find a sensible server with armor, its about a 1 in a million chance that I will drive together with an other armor driver
2: I need Armor + AT time, so its basically catching two flies at once
3: If I manage to loose a 1v1 tank fight, I can quickly hop out, bunny around and fire my missle and the tank.
That's what I've been doing. Flame me all you want, but if they lose a tank AND a ticket in the process...RDMC(2) wrote:
I rather be Anti-Tank, and thats for 3 reasons
1: If I even find a sensible server with armor, its about a 1 in a million chance that I will drive together with an other armor driver
2: I need Armor + AT time, so its basically catching two flies at once
3: If I manage to loose a 1v1 tank fight, I can quickly hop out, bunny around and fire my missle and the tank.
Teamwork is nonexistent in this game. You can reward them all you want with teamwork points but every single player is obviously so "uber 1337" that they cannot afford the time to drive you anyplace. There is no incentive to play as a team really, so they players don't do it. Unfortunately, this isn't the military.
I like the surprise they get when they've blown up my tank/apc and then a at rocket kills them .Hurricane wrote:
That's what I've been doing. Flame me all you want, but if they lose a tank AND a ticket in the process...RDMC(2) wrote:
I rather be Anti-Tank, and thats for 3 reasons
1: If I even find a sensible server with armor, its about a 1 in a million chance that I will drive together with an other armor driver
2: I need Armor + AT time, so its basically catching two flies at once
3: If I manage to loose a 1v1 tank fight, I can quickly hop out, bunny around and fire my missle and the tank.
Except now you have to get back to the armor spawn which can be a bitch on a populated server. Chances are that someone else will get the tank.RDMC(2) wrote:
I rather be Anti-Tank, and thats for 3 reasons
1: If I even find a sensible server with armor, its about a 1 in a million chance that I will drive together with an other armor driver
2: I need Armor + AT time, so its basically catching two flies at once
3: If I manage to loose a 1v1 tank fight, I can quickly hop out, bunny around and fire my missle and the tank.
Not knocking you because I will do the same from time to time, it depends on the opposition. If there aren't many AT guys around, you can play something other than engy.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
I'll play whatever the hell kit I want. Generally, AT is best for me since if I lose the battle, I can hop out and pop the enemy.
Also, if I'm tankbusted, I'm not rendered impotent by only having a shotgun. Instead, I have an AT rocket and some use.
Otherwise, I'm on Support, or statpadding one of the other classes.
Also, if I'm tankbusted, I'm not rendered impotent by only having a shotgun. Instead, I have an AT rocket and some use.
Otherwise, I'm on Support, or statpadding one of the other classes.
If you have time you should quickly chuck a mine under the tank when you stop to repair....wah1188 wrote:
As soon as you hit half damage cower around a corner then pop smoke pull that wrench out and get wankers whiplash frantically repairing your armor. Then the noob tuber wah1188 will steal it, kill you with it and keep it from you the rest of the round depriving you and your team.
And yes PLEASE do play as engineer, as a side bonus most engineers get the pump shot gun, the most powerful gun in the game (kills in one hit to the chest) Nothing more fun then pump shotty...
We had a round on Jalalabad where my squad mate, and some one from another squad were tanking around the map....My squad mate kept the other guy alive through almost every battle they got into, but the jackass refused to play engineer even though he never left his tank....so I had to keep tracking down my squadmate to fix him up....If that other idiot would have played engineer we probably would have won that round.
If you want team play join the BF2s US server tonight. The focus will be of course teamplay and fairplay with map rotations every round if wanted by the players. Here is a live update of the server if you want to know whats going on with it:
I should be able to admin, so I can try to enforce teamplay and squading up. But like I said, you have to be the one to invite and join squads also. I'm trying to get the BF2s Server alive again. Last night we had 32+ people in there and it was a great time! Tonight we should try for the same.
I should be able to admin, so I can try to enforce teamplay and squading up. But like I said, you have to be the one to invite and join squads also. I'm trying to get the BF2s Server alive again. Last night we had 32+ people in there and it was a great time! Tonight we should try for the same.
Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.