im_in_heaven
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Ok so ive started playing commander alot now. My question is do 100% of your command points go towards global points? Or is it before the x2 that adds to your global points? Im pretty sure its the whole thing that adds to global but i want to make sure
Emil
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100% goes to global if I did understand your question right..
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Varegg
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Your command score before the x2 counts towards your global score !
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Emil
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Varegg wrote:

Your command score before the x2 counts towards your global score !
I'm sure the command score after the 2x do also.
Andoura
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And its the 2x point that goes to your stats.... would be fkn long if it would be only the point you earn in a round before the 2x damn !

Last edited by Andoura (2007-02-21 09:37:34)

im_in_heaven
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Andoura wrote:

Look at my Sig, Then you will see something in a big beautiful pink... click on it !


And its the 2x point that goes to your stats.... would be fkn long if it would be only the point you earn in a round before the 2x damn !
Ok off topic since i found my answer but...... this forum would have no posts if everyone just said "google it" or "search it". So why do you people insist of saying that?
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Emil_the_Slayer wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Your command score before the x2 counts towards your global score !
I'm sure the command score after the 2x do also.
No it doesn`t, the x2 only shows in your total commander score, not in the global points !
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Stubbee
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Andoura wrote:

Look at my Sig, Then you will see something in a big beautiful pink... click on it !


And its the 2x point that goes to your stats.... would be fkn long if it would be only the point you earn in a round before the 2x damn !
Andoura:
why the hell is your title telling everyone to eat shit?

mangez tous dla merde to you as well

OP:
The x2 score is added to your global score. If you check the scoreboard just before the end of a round, you will see your score before x2. for example 50 global points.

Your final global score would then be 100 points.

NB

(These global points do NOT include points for anything you do as commander. Revives, kills, repairs, captures etc do NOT contribute directly to your score.)
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robthemadman
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I can see where you are all coming from, but if you get anyone to add up their Team, Combat and Commander points in their stats, they will NOT add up to their Global Score. I previously though that that was because only the Command points before 2x counted towards Gobal score. However, I just added up my Combat and Teamwork points, and they come to about 20 points below my global score... and I have accumulated more than 20 points before 2x as commander (I have over 2000 command poiints).

So, I ask, where are my points disappearing to/from?

I'm pretty sure nobody has ever answered this on these forums.. I searched and all that
The_Jester
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Andoura wrote:

Look at my Sig, Then you will see something in a big beautiful pink... click on it !
It's quite hard to notice anything in your sig.
Something keep catching my attention.
im_in_heaven
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ahh i got it. The reason why command points team points and combat points dont add up to your total score is because of yoru teamkills, damage, vehicle damage lost points.
Mike<Eagle23>
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How that thingy works:

Mike<Eagle23> wrote:

SysTray wrote:

Commander points is an average of your team's score basically. Artillery counts for global kills and combat points but not global points, this is the reason that your commander, teamwork, and combat score don't equal your global score. You can get "Kills In a round" requirements from artillery alone.

You get a percentage of every score your team makes as commander. If BobJoe7 kills someone and there are 17 total people on your team you get 2/17 (0.11) points). The decimals don't show up, but they are there. Once you hit a whole number, that number shows as your score.

The division is based on how many people on your team are alive at the time of the point scored though. When BobJoe7 killed another guy, all 17 members of your team weren't alive, so it is divided by the number that were alive. 2/13=0.15 points.

At the end of the round if you are still commander and your team wins, your score is doubled. These extra points don't count toward awards like the War College Ribbon (notice the "Before 2x"), but you still get them. Cool, huh? If you had 36 it would double to 72. But if you had some weird decimal again it may "double" to 73. You may have had 36.67 points before the win.

If you teamkill as commander, the points you lose still double. If you had 23 commander points, and lost 4 due to a teamkill, it would show as 19. If the round finished right after that, your points would "double" to 42.

You still have 23 commander points, which got doubled to 46, then you lost the 4 for the teamkill. Thus leaving you with 42.
...and...


Mike<Eagle23> wrote:

Global score = Combat score + Team score + Commander score - Combat score as commander (nobody knows how many points) - Team score as commander
(e.g. you are commander while using the support class and give ammo to someone else. You'll get a point for resupplies, but this score does not count as global score...)

Last edited by Mike<Eagle23> (2007-02-21 10:40:23)

robthemadman
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Ahhh cheers, it all makes sense now. I thought the teamkill thing amy have been right too, but I tried it and it just didn't add up. Thanks, +1
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I swear that all of the points go to your score, i got my promotion and weapon unlocks as commander and i didnt win the round
genius_man16
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Mike<Eagle23> wrote:

How that thingy works:

Mike<Eagle23> wrote:

SysTray wrote:

Commander points is an average of your team's score basically. Artillery counts for global kills and combat points but not global points, this is the reason that your commander, teamwork, and combat score don't equal your global score. You can get "Kills In a round" requirements from artillery alone.

You get a percentage of every score your team makes as commander. If BobJoe7 kills someone and there are 17 total people on your team you get 2/17 (0.11) points). The decimals don't show up, but they are there. Once you hit a whole number, that number shows as your score.

The division is based on how many people on your team are alive at the time of the point scored though. When BobJoe7 killed another guy, all 17 members of your team weren't alive, so it is divided by the number that were alive. 2/13=0.15 points.

At the end of the round if you are still commander and your team wins, your score is doubled. These extra points don't count toward awards like the War College Ribbon (notice the "Before 2x"), but you still get them. Cool, huh? If you had 36 it would double to 72. But if you had some weird decimal again it may "double" to 73. You may have had 36.67 points before the win.

If you teamkill as commander, the points you lose still double. If you had 23 commander points, and lost 4 due to a teamkill, it would show as 19. If the round finished right after that, your points would "double" to 42.

You still have 23 commander points, which got doubled to 46, then you lost the 4 for the teamkill. Thus leaving you with 42.
...and...


Mike<Eagle23> wrote:

Global score = Combat score + Team score + Commander score - Combat score as commander (nobody knows how many points) - Team score as commander
(e.g. you are commander while using the support class and give ammo to someone else. You'll get a point for resupplies, but this score does not count as global score...)
you dont lose points for TKing as commander, at least i've never lost any (and i'm talking other than arty TK's)
Varegg
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Okay- since most of you are totally incompetent in basic mathematics this is what you do:

I`m using my own numbers, feel free to check your own......

Global 96,752
Team 26,533
Combat 63,516
Commander 13,454 <------ your commander score after the x2 and half counts towards your global score

13454/2= 6727 commander score that counts towards your global score

Then we have these numbers:

Commander 6,727 + Team 26,533 + Combat 63,516 = 103,503

Then you take your addition and subtract your global score

103,503 - 96,752 = 6751 <------- this is the sum i have lost for teamkills, team damage, vehichle damage and suicides

Last edited by Varegg (2007-02-21 14:07:10)

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Mike<Eagle23>
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But...
...your calculations has got some little errors:
1. 13454 is your commander score, well, ok, but you can not simply divide it by two, since you'll never win all of your rounds
2. Your number of TKs: 968 x 4 = 3872
    Your number of team damage: 493 x 2 = 968
    Your number of team vehicle damage: 247
    Total number of points lost by shooting your own team: 5087 and not 6751
EDIT: suicides: 805, max 805 x2= 1610 => 5087 + 1610 = 6697, but not every suicide costs you 2 points, even a death caused by fall damage is considered a suicide

However, as I said, you definitely get healing points, supply points or whatever while being commander, BUT they will not count towards your global score. Its just the same as with kills while being commander. They DO count towards your global kills and combat score (which is always kills x2) but not towards your global score.
That means that every single arty kill you made is included in your kill count (maybe even as a vehicle kill), which also means that you can't simply take the whole combat score as part of your global score.


Another example: my stats, your calculation

Global 69,224
Team 18,399
Combat 36,038
Commander 30,324 :2 = 15162

18,399 + 36,038 + 15,162 = 69,599 => only 375 points more than my actual global score, and the number of points I lost because of TKs alone is higher than 1200

You see, it doesn't fit

Last edited by Mike<Eagle23> (2007-02-21 14:50:52)

Varegg
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Mike<Eagle23> wrote:

But...
...your calculations has got some little errors:
1. 13454 is your commander score, well, ok, but you can not simply divide it by two, since you'll never win all of your rounds
2. Your number of TKs: 968 x 4 = 3872
    Your number of team damage: 493 x 2 = 968
    Your number of team vehicle damage: 247
    Total number of points lost by shooting your own team: 5087 and not 6751
EDIT: suicides: 805, max 805 x2= 1610 => 5087 + 1610 = 6697, but not every suicide costs you 2 points, even a death caused by fall damage is considered a suicide

However, as I said, you definitely get healing points, supply points or whatever while being commander, BUT they will not count towards your global score. Its just the same as with kills while being commander. They DO count towards your global kills and combat score (which is always kills x2) but not towards your global score.
That means that every single arty kill you made is included in your kill count (maybe even as a vehicle kill), which also means that you can't simply take the whole combat score as part of your global score.


Another example: my stats, your calculation

Global 69,224
Team 18,399
Combat 36,038
Commander 30,324 :2 = 15162

18,399 + 36,038 + 15,162 = 69,599 => only 375 points more than my actual global score, and the number of points I lost because of TKs alone is higher than 1200

You see, it doesn't fit
The calculation is a rough estimate Mike if you take into consideration your win percentage and other factors, you have a higher win/loss ratio than me and that affects the calculation if you break it down 100%.
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im_in_heaven
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varegg if your calculation is right then it makes no sense to be a commander. The x2 has no benefit to you at all. So bascially you're the same as the losing commander. Which in turn makes no sense

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