Choppiness when writing to new hard drive

2007-02-27 20:21:59

#1

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

Edited for new problems.
After having it working great for a while, the exact same problem started occuring again. Now I took out my dvd drive so it is the hard drive by itself on an IDE cable with the jumper set to Master with Slave off. Still, it gets all choppy and the speed won't go above 2 m/s. What could the problem possibly be?

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My computer currently has Windows on my C drive (SATA) and I ran out of space so I bought a new 320gb drive (IDE). Now, whenever I write to my new drive, my entire computer becomes extremely choppy and I can't even use it. I have absolutely no Idea what might be causing this.

Some things to note - The connector I used for my hard drive is the same one that my DVD drive is plugged in to (it branches off at the end into 2 IDE things)
Also, my drive did not come with and jumpers to set master or slave, so the slot is just empty right now.

Last edited by bobby177 (2007-03-23 17:55:57)

2007-02-27 20:24:45

#2

killinzero1: Member; +14|6853

hmm awkward

2007-02-27 20:26:53

#3

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|7181

You replaced your drive with this new 320 or u added the 320 as a backup to your smaller drive?
And you should have an IDE cable that connects from the motherboard to your hd... nothing to do with your dvd cable

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2007-02-27 20:27:39

#4

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7066|132 and Bush

Get a program called HD Tach to test the read/write speeds and go from there.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Har … Tach.shtml

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2007-02-27 20:28:20

#5

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

I really have absolutely no idea what is wrong with it lol... so I am posting for help (which I try to refrain from doing)

2007-02-27 20:32:14

#6

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

[TUF]Catbox wrote:
You replaced your drive with this new 320 or u added the 320 as a backup to your smaller drive?
And you should have an IDE cable that connects from the motherboard to your hd... nothing to do with your dvd cable

It comes from the motherboard then splits off into 2 I think

2007-02-27 20:38:33

#7

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

My old C: drive

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/bobby177/harddrive2.jpg

My new (and apparently extreeeeemeeely slow) H: drive

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/bobby177/harddrive1.jpg

2007-02-27 20:41:46

#8

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7066|132 and Bush

bobby177 wrote:
My old C: drive
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/b … drive2.jpg

My new (and apparently extreeeeemeeely slow) H: drive
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/b … drive1.jpg

You might pay attention to the CPU on the second one.
Please tell us the make and model of the drive.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-02-27 20:42:37)

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2007-02-27 20:44:12

#9

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

Kmarion wrote:
bobby177 wrote:
My old C: drive
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/b … drive2.jpg

My new (and apparently extreeeeemeeely slow) H: drive
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/b … drive1.jpg
You might pay attention to the CPU on the second one.
Please tell us the make and model of the drive.

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.a … 6822148139

Thanks for trying to help this is killing me...

2007-02-27 20:52:43

#10

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7066|132 and Bush

bobby177 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
bobby177 wrote:
My old C: drive
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/b … drive2.jpg

My new (and apparently extreeeeemeeely slow) H: drive
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h11/b … drive1.jpg
You might pay attention to the CPU on the second one.
Please tell us the make and model of the drive.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.a … 6822148139

Thanks for trying to help this is killing me...

Seagate makes a reliable HD but you may have gotten a faulty one. There is very little that can go wrong when installing them. If you want try using a different IDE cable it could be the cable or the it's connections.. I tend to think you may have gotten bum drive though. Also, I just noticed you are having OS problems as well. I wouldn't jump the gun on returning the new drive until you get that worked out first.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-02-27 20:53:55)

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2007-02-27 20:55:45

#11

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

Kmarion wrote:
bobby177 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:

You might pay attention to the CPU on the second one.
Please tell us the make and model of the drive.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.a … 6822148139

Thanks for trying to help this is killing me...
Seagate makes a reliable HD but you may have gotten a faulty one. There is very little that can go wrong when installing them. If you want try using a different IDE cable it could be the cable or the it's connections.. I tend to think you may have gotten bum drive though. Also, I just noticed you are having OS problems as well. I wouldn't jump the gun on returning the new drive until you get that worked out first.

I have been wanting to reformat and reinstall Windows, so i asked in my other thread if it was possible because I don't have the installation CDs anymore. If I can do that without the CDs then I probably will

2007-02-27 23:10:11

#12

The Stillhouse Kid: Licensed Televulcanologist; +126|7107|Deep In The South Of Texas

Not having a jumper on the hard drive sets it as a single or master drive with no others present. You need to set it to master with slave present.

https://www.thg.ru/storage/20050216/images/wd3200-jumpers.jpg

2007-02-28 06:07:25

#13

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:
Not having a jumper on the hard drive sets it as a single or master drive with no others present. You need to set it to master with slave present.

http://www.thg.ru/storage/20050216/imag … umpers.jpg

It came with no jumpers so I assumed I didn't need any. Could that be the reason it's so slow?

2007-02-28 06:58:05

#14

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7047|SE London

bobby177 wrote:
The Stillhouse Kid wrote:
Not having a jumper on the hard drive sets it as a single or master drive with no others present. You need to set it to master with slave present.

http://www.thg.ru/storage/20050216/imag … umpers.jpg
It came with no jumpers so I assumed I didn't need any. Could that be the reason it's so slow?

It's seems unlikely. But give it a try.

Also using a seperate IDE cable to the one you have your DVD drive connected with would be an idea.

I have to agree with Kmarion, your drive is probably faulty. Hard drive issues, such as wrong jumper settings, dodgy cables etc. tend to lead to the hard drive not working at all, the fact that yours works really slowly is most likely an issue with the drive itself.

2007-02-28 08:19:13

#15

The Stillhouse Kid: Licensed Televulcanologist; +126|7107|Deep In The South Of Texas

bobby177 wrote:
The Stillhouse Kid wrote:
Not having a jumper on the hard drive sets it as a single or master drive with no others present. You need to set it to master with slave present.

http://www.thg.ru/storage/20050216/imag … umpers.jpg
It came with no jumpers so I assumed I didn't need any. Could that be the reason it's so slow?

What brand of drive is it? The jumper setting may be different than the one I showed.

2007-02-28 08:43:59

#16

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|7047|SE London

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:
bobby177 wrote:
The Stillhouse Kid wrote:
Not having a jumper on the hard drive sets it as a single or master drive with no others present. You need to set it to master with slave present.

http://www.thg.ru/storage/20050216/imag … umpers.jpg
It came with no jumpers so I assumed I didn't need any. Could that be the reason it's so slow?
What brand of drive is it? The jumper setting may be different than the one I showed.

He's already posted that it's a Seagate.

Post #9.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-02-28 08:44:25)

2007-02-28 08:56:44

#17

The Stillhouse Kid: Licensed Televulcanologist; +126|7107|Deep In The South Of Texas

OK, my bad.

You'll still want to set the HD as Master. Without the jumper it's set as Slave.

https://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/u5_family_1.gif

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/ide4.htm

To allow for two drives on the same cable, IDE uses a special configuration called master and slave. This configuration allows one drive's controller to tell the other drive when it can transfer data to or from the computer. What happens is the slave drive makes a request to the master drive, which checks to see if it is currently communicating with the computer. If the master drive is idle, it tells the slave drive to go ahead. If the master drive is communicating with the computer, it tells the slave drive to wait and then informs it when it can go ahead.

At least give it a try.

2007-02-28 14:40:26

#18

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

Where can I get some jumpers?

2007-02-28 14:42:41

#19

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|7033|NYC / Hamburg

bobby177 wrote:
Where can I get some jumpers?

if you cant find any you can ghetto mod one by just taking some thin wire and connecting the 2 pins

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2007-03-01 19:22:19

#20

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

Problem solved! I trusted my friend when he told me that there were no jumpers in the hard drive, turns out there was one on the slave setting. Changed it to master and the speed is 160x faster. Thanks everyone who helped.

(Now I just need to fix my other problem with I made a thread about...)

2007-03-23 17:56:10

#21

bobby177: Member; +129|6939|Texas.. getting out asap

bump for edit

2007-03-26 18:30:14

#22

DaBigDragon: Member; +3|7205|USA

Is the IDE cable an 80 wire or 40 wire, because if it is 40 wire then that's your problem. The IDE cable that connects to a DVD drive is 40 wire and if you put a hard drive on that, it'll slow it down tremendously. You should be using the IDE cable that came with the hard drive.

2007-03-26 18:45:10

#23

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6904|King Of The Islands

Under Device Manager / IDE Controllers, check that Primary and Secondary aren't running in PIO mode.

Whenever I see a computer with slow drive data rates, its usually PIO mode. There's also a fix on Microsoft's site so it stops reverting to PIO so frequently.

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