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2005-12-04 18:15:54

#1

nexus3372: Member; +1|7041

(Title has nothing to do with articile) i should copyright it though
I have a new found jihad, I invented within the first 3 hrs of playing and am seeing it more and more. I'd like to publically post it, so I can get some gratitude for my ingenious ideas. The ATVofDoom, jihad style, without suicide points. Founded on November 23, 2005, appx 1:30 pm

ATV(fullspeed)= very weak car, but very quick and agile
+ C4= very powerful and simple
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ATVofDoom aka jihadatv

Run this fullspeed,(must be close to max speed) beastly thing into a tank/apc, which in turn blows the ATV up, if a vehicle blows up with C4 on it, the C4 detonates. In turn the C4 blows up the tank/APC you just ran into. W/O suicide points, unless u bail out. Try it, ur guarenteed to piss the tanker off and pleasure yourself(not that way, unless you roll that way). I have found this the best way to take out a tank that is pissing you off, I recommend it to you, post if u think this my a good idea and have heard of it for the first time, then try it out and let me no how u like it. IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT IT DOESNT WORK!!!u must suck at life, if u cant blow up an ATV (fullspeed) into a tank. :0

**DISCLAIMER: U may piss off the driver and in turn cause him to use the tank again, looking especially for you to die**

HAVE FUN!!!! and when you use it say "Brought to you by: Nexus3372"

2005-12-04 18:29:49

#2

BeefnCheez: Member; +0|7005

you must be the last person to come up with this idea

2005-12-04 18:32:18

#3

Flasheart88: Member; +0|7020|Brisbane

I think it must be just feeble humour. No one with 250 hours of playing could have missed this well-worn tactic for so long.

So therefore:

Ha. Ha.

*clap*

2005-12-04 19:39:51

#4

SnobbyBoss: SAS Medic; +18|7000

Even though the idea is old i like the name.

2005-12-04 19:49:11

#5

Teebaggs1: X-LG Member; +25|7010|Maine, MA, and PJ concerts

This has been done since June.

2005-12-04 20:01:10

#6

Home: Section.80; +447|7108|Seattle, Washington, USA

Teebaggs1 wrote:
This has been done since June.

How could it have been done since June? BF2:SF wasn't out in June, therefore ATV's weren't out in June.

Anyways, I prefer this to the old "Dune Buggy Jihading".

2005-12-04 20:10:03

#7

nexus3372: Member; +1|7041

its just somin fun to do, ill always done HHV jihad, so i let it rip on the ATV, i never did dune-buggy jihad, ill have to try it lol. try it for those if u that just read and dont reply

2005-12-04 23:12:32

#8

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

I have another one for you, when you hit the left mouse button the weapon fires.

2005-12-05 01:00:38

#9

kilroy0097: Kilroy Is Here!; +81|7104|Bryan/College Station, TX

usmarine2005 wrote:
I have another one for you, when you hit the left mouse button the weapon fires.

*chuckle* Right and when you hit the "Z" button you go into a prone position from which when you hit your left mouse button to "fire" you will do so with greater accuracy.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

2005-12-05 01:03:58

#10

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

When getting shot at, hit the space bar a lot, people love that.

2005-12-05 01:04:26

#11

thinner44: Member; +1|7070

This is getting way too complicated for me..... although, when I hit the power button, the screen comes on (that's if I've paid the leccy bill)

2005-12-05 01:09:14

#12

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

When you double-click on BF2.exe, you have enough time to cook dinner and make a beer run.

2005-12-05 03:02:24

#13

dshak: Member; +4|7073

honestly, I didnt know that if your vehicle explodes with C4 on it then the C4 detonates???? This is actually kind of lame, seeing as that is really not at all how C4 works. I saw a USMC engineer training video once where a guy threw a stick of dynamite into a steel drum with C4 in it and the C4 didn't go off.

Last edited by dshak (2005-12-05 03:18:16)

2005-12-05 03:26:26

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

Well, at least EA got that right. C4 needs two things to explode, heat and pressure. A car going fullspeed into tank will give you sufficient ignition I suspect. Having delt with C4, if it will explode with a small blasting cap, I can beleive it could explode in a violent crash.

2005-12-05 03:31:37

#15

dshak: Member; +4|7073

okay, but I'm telling you... it really won't! I'm seriously not educated enough on the subject to argue, though I'll do my research and get back to you... I was watching a USMC show on history channel, show about corps engineers and demolitions, and I'm telling you you should have seen the stuff these guys did to this C4 and it did not go off... I mean... can't get much more "heat and Pressure" that a stick of dynamite going off in the same barrell it was in.

2005-12-05 03:36:06

#16

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

I dont know how much it takes to set it off either.

2005-12-05 03:38:19

#17

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

Sounds like a job for MythBusters.

2005-12-05 03:40:41

#18

dshak: Member; +4|7073

haha, i'm back...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/c-42.htm

Here is the important part, though it still doesn't fully answer the question, I think the last sentence kind of makes my point...

"Just as with other explosives, you need to apply some energy to C-4 to kick off the chemical reaction. Because of the stabilizer elements, it takes a considerable shock to set off this reaction; lighting the C-4 with a match will just make it burn slowly, like a piece of wood (in Vietnam, soldiers actually burned C-4 as an improvised cooking fire). Even shooting the explosive with a rifle won't trigger the reaction. Only a detonator, or blasting cap will do the job properly."

also... "It is relatively insensitive to impact, friction or fire, although large quantities can explode if burned." I included the link above so you can check it out yourself if you like.

In any case that supports what I saw. The engineers were demonstrating how safe it is to handle and even specifically refered to a supply truck carrying several hundred pounds of it being hit with a RPG in Afghanistan without detonation... so needless to say I don't think that crashing an ATV into a tank would be a sufficient reaction, alas, EA you've failed me again! haha

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2005-12-05 03:51:32

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

well, if the blasting cap is already inserted, which it is in the game, then I can beleive it. I know what you are saying, but in all those examples, the C4 does not have a blasting cap inserted.

2005-12-05 03:52:57

#20

dshak: Member; +4|7073

yikes, don't get me started on that... blasting caps don't simply work when they themselves are in an explosion... I'm fairly convinced you need to actually detonate it 90% of the time, you don't agree, neither one of us is an explosives expert, so lets just leave it at that! I will pose the question to my father though, who is a retired USAF Colonel who was an engineer and spent a healthy amount of time playing with the super puddy. They used to use it to clear mines when 'borrowing' hostile airstrips, or so I've been told... which apparently was more effective than one would think as it didn't create large impact craters at all. He doesn't much like to talk about his experiences in vietnam, but I think I could probably get him to answer a technical question.

Last edited by dshak (2005-12-05 03:59:03)

2005-12-05 03:59:34

#21

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7022

Its not that I dont agree, I have just never tried to blow a blasting cap without some sort of charge, so I have no idea, but I is just a guess.

2005-12-05 12:47:51

#22

dshak: Member; +4|7073

okay,

here's what the colonel had to say about it...

"its damn hard to detonate. an external explosion would be highly unlikely to set off even a charged block. as suggested it takes heat and pressure but it requires a very specific internal reaction. in the event of an external explosion its more likely the block would be burned off and the cap would be destroyed instead of detonating. however it is entirely possible given a precise, lucky (or unlucky depending on your perspective) situation, especially if it is a particularly large amount. The chances of a block detonating on a vehicle in collisiona nd subsiquent explosive are next to zero, but not zero. There have been whole truckloads of the stuff that have exploded before without detonation, but this is a high imact explosive, stabilized or not, I wouldn't play with any of it to try to prove your point."

So I guess it is possible, but highly highly unlikely. I guess if EA wanted to REALLY get it right they would just have it detonate every 10th or 20th time you did the trick right? but that wouldn't be much fun for the jihaders.

2005-12-05 12:53:47

#23

YitEarp: Member; +1|6985

oh yeah i patented this technique the other day, im the first person ever to use it. its called hitting F10 or Alt-F4 to get the power up and win the game. try it.

somehow i doubt u were the first person to think that up, hell that was one of the first things i did in SF when i got it running the day of launch.

2005-12-05 13:09:02

#24

Psycho: Member since 2005; +44|7036|Kansas, USA

dshak wrote:
okay,

here's what the colonel had to say about it...

"its damn hard to detonate. an external explosion would be highly unlikely to set off even a charged block. as suggested it takes heat and pressure but it requires a very specific internal reaction. in the event of an external explosion its more likely the block would be burned off and the cap would be destroyed instead of detonating. however it is entirely possible given a precise, lucky (or unlucky depending on your perspective) situation, especially if it is a particularly large amount. The chances of a block detonating on a vehicle in collisiona nd subsiquent explosive are next to zero, but not zero. There have been whole truckloads of the stuff that have exploded before without detonation, but this is a high imact explosive, stabilized or not, I wouldn't play with any of it to try to prove your point."

So I guess it is possible, but highly highly unlikely. I guess if EA wanted to REALLY get it right they would just have it detonate every 10th or 20th time you did the trick right? but that wouldn't be much fun for the jihaders.

<span style="sarcasm:heavy;">Damn! Are you telling me that this game is not 100% realistic?</span>

2005-12-05 13:10:08

#25

BurlySmurf: Member; +1|7015|Nellis AFB

dshak,

To your comment about blasting caps not going off in a crash, if the force hit the cap right it would detonate. I have seen photos of an ammo guy that was chewing(Seriously, fucking chewing) on a blasting cap and it went off. I agree with you both on the rest though. It could happen, but the conditions would just be dumb luck.

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