Tehran at 8:00 am (0430 GMT).Jet Blast wrote:
I think you are correct. I just want to use the counting chickens analogy.sergeriver wrote:
They will be in UK tomorrow, he is not that stupid.Jet Blast wrote:
Guys, I am glad you are happy, but I cannot be too excited until they are actually released.
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That is like 4 hours from now right?Kmarion wrote:
Tehran at 8:00 am (0430 GMT).
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=246 8 am their time.Jet Blast wrote:
That is like 4 hours from now right?Kmarion wrote:
Tehran at 8:00 am (0430 GMT).
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If an area has been rife with war for many years would that not be more of a reason to avoid further unwarranted conflicts in said area rather than a means to try and justify unwarranted conflicts? Diplomacy may not have resolved the Iran-Iraq war but you have to admit it would've been nicer for all involved if it had.rawls2 wrote:
Why are you guys so concerned with the middle east bieng at war. When have they not? Was it diplomacy that ended the Iran-Iraq war?
That would be great if we were all enlightened spirits. But we are all just simple mammals with the horrible affliction known as reason. As long as that remains we will always go to war, diplomacy or not.Braddock wrote:
If an area has been rife with war for many years would that not be more of a reason to avoid further unwarranted conflicts in said area rather than a means to try and justify unwarranted conflicts? Diplomacy may not have resolved the Iran-Iraq war but you have to admit it would've been nicer for all involved if it had.rawls2 wrote:
Why are you guys so concerned with the middle east bieng at war. When have they not? Was it diplomacy that ended the Iran-Iraq war?
I only read your last sentence. I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on. Exactly how can a native of the British Isles be racist against another native of the British Isles? We're the same race?Braddock wrote:
Well Rommell, you're quite the military tactician. Where did you get the arbitrary sum of £10 million from? That tactic, as fantastic as it sounds in theory, would have had one result: 15 dead sailors and a war.iphtnax wrote:
Here's what Tony Blair should have done: given the Iranians 24 hours to release the sailors plus demanded a compensation payment of £10 million. Should these things not be delievered, then the Iranians would lose a military base every four hours.Have you been in many nice wars then? I don't know how successful you would be convincing an Iraqi kid with his arms blown off or a Mother who's lost her son in the military of that theory.iphtnax wrote:
War in itself isn't a bad thing. The bad thing is having to go to war in the first place.Decommissioning all your weapons and firepower isn't a good idea if you plan on going back to the gun (and btw the INDEPENDENT monitoring commission has verified that the IRA are in compliance with the decommissioning demands).iphtnax wrote:
You're ignoring the fact that the terrorists (Gerry Adams and Co) realise that they can now achieve their goal politically rather than militarily, but do you doubt for a moment that they won't go back to the gun if their political methods fail.Bigoted generalisations like this only serve to show people that your opinion is not worth listening to.iphtnax wrote:
Muslims are like Terminators - they can't be bargained or reasoned with.I'm sure the Loyalist terrorist minority will take great heart in your words of encouragement. I don't doubt that WHEN we absorb the six counties (I say six counties because Ulster covers an area of Ireland that takes in more than the six counties btw) there will be a civil war but you have to face the basic facts, the strength in numbers lies with the Republic, it won't be long before there are more Republicans than Loyalists in the six counties never mind all the people from the South who would take part in a civil war. Or are you going to attempt another plantation? I don't think there would be many volunteers.iphtnax wrote:
However, should the terrorists ever succeed in stealing part of my country from me (ie. absorbing Ulster into Ireland), then I'll be the first to encourage the Loyalists to go on the rampage against the Republican terrorists and their enablers. If it worked against us, it'll work against them ten times as strongiphtnax wrote:
There probably ARE a couple of simpletons (with eyebrows on their cheeks, lol) in Ireland who believe that the IRA has got rid of all it's weapons.Racism, the last refuge of an idiot.iphtnax wrote:
Did a leprechaun just hop into this thread then hop out again?
Yes.rawls2 wrote:
Was it diplomacy that ended the Iran-Iraq war?
iphtnax wrote:
I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on.
You just made Fadedsteve or whatever his name is look like an ass. Go you!CameronPoe wrote:
Ahmedinejad is lettin' em go!
He apparently forgives the sailors and is releasing them as a gift to Britain! Sly dog!
Sources and details to follow.
What were those helpful tips from the hostage crisis in the late 70s/80s? Guess we won't be needing them after all...
As for the other suggestions people bandied about - attacking Iran - guess what? Israel tried that with Hezbollah: and guess who still hasn't got their men back? That's right - Israel. This is a victory for diplomacy over stupidity/warmongering.
you've owned everyone?? I can see how you would think that considering you admit to not reading peoples posts so don't see their counterarguments and facts which point out how ridiculous your viewpoint is.iphtnax wrote:
I only read your last sentence. I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on. Exactly how can a native of the British Isles be racist against another native of the British Isles? We're the same race?
Why is it that people have to use the R word so often?
Bertster7 wrote:
iphtnax wrote:
I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on.
LOL. The British Isles were recently redefined thank you very much. It no longer includes Ireland. It was a complete misnomer anyway. My genes are Celtic/Gaeilic - if you're English then you're probably mostly Germanic. Enjoy. You're in good company (your Queen is German).iphtnax wrote:
I only read your last sentence. I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on. Exactly how can a native of the British Isles be racist against another native of the British Isles? We're the same race?
Why is it that people have to use the R word so often?
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Definition of Ignorant Fool.iphtnax wrote:
I only read your last sentence. I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on. Exactly how can a native of the British Isles be racist against another native of the British Isles? We're the same race?Braddock wrote:
Well Rommell, you're quite the military tactician. Where did you get the arbitrary sum of £10 million from? That tactic, as fantastic as it sounds in theory, would have had one result: 15 dead sailors and a war.iphtnax wrote:
Here's what Tony Blair should have done: given the Iranians 24 hours to release the sailors plus demanded a compensation payment of £10 million. Should these things not be delievered, then the Iranians would lose a military base every four hours.Have you been in many nice wars then? I don't know how successful you would be convincing an Iraqi kid with his arms blown off or a Mother who's lost her son in the military of that theory.iphtnax wrote:
War in itself isn't a bad thing. The bad thing is having to go to war in the first place.Decommissioning all your weapons and firepower isn't a good idea if you plan on going back to the gun (and btw the INDEPENDENT monitoring commission has verified that the IRA are in compliance with the decommissioning demands).iphtnax wrote:
You're ignoring the fact that the terrorists (Gerry Adams and Co) realise that they can now achieve their goal politically rather than militarily, but do you doubt for a moment that they won't go back to the gun if their political methods fail.Bigoted generalisations like this only serve to show people that your opinion is not worth listening to.iphtnax wrote:
Muslims are like Terminators - they can't be bargained or reasoned with.I'm sure the Loyalist terrorist minority will take great heart in your words of encouragement. I don't doubt that WHEN we absorb the six counties (I say six counties because Ulster covers an area of Ireland that takes in more than the six counties btw) there will be a civil war but you have to face the basic facts, the strength in numbers lies with the Republic, it won't be long before there are more Republicans than Loyalists in the six counties never mind all the people from the South who would take part in a civil war. Or are you going to attempt another plantation? I don't think there would be many volunteers.iphtnax wrote:
However, should the terrorists ever succeed in stealing part of my country from me (ie. absorbing Ulster into Ireland), then I'll be the first to encourage the Loyalists to go on the rampage against the Republican terrorists and their enablers. If it worked against us, it'll work against them ten times as strongiphtnax wrote:
There probably ARE a couple of simpletons (with eyebrows on their cheeks, lol) in Ireland who believe that the IRA has got rid of all it's weapons.Racism, the last refuge of an idiot.iphtnax wrote:
Did a leprechaun just hop into this thread then hop out again?
Why is it that people have to use the R word so often?
Race (Oxford dictionary definition: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/race_2?view=uk):iphtnax wrote:
I only read your last sentence. I've already owned all in this thread so there's no need for me to carry on. Exactly how can a native of the British Isles be racist against another native of the British Isles? We're the same race?
Why is it that people have to use the R word so often?
Do you have eyebrows on your cheeks as well then seen as we're the same race?iphtnax wrote wrote:
There probably ARE a couple of simpletons (with eyebrows on their cheeks, lol) in Ireland who believe that the IRA has got rid of all it's weapons.
If your implying that Ireland is part of the British Isles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Is … ng_disputeiphtnax wrote:
Exactly how can a native of the British Isles be racist against another native of the British Isles?
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State it anyway. Just to piss people off and look like a jackass, it's fun.topthrill05 wrote:
I would state my opinion if Campo wasn't looking for a fight.
I thought the Brits were firm but calm. I just hope they keep their warships closer the next time Iran decides to go plucking them out of the water.King_County_Downy wrote:
We negotiated with terrorists. Great.
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Cam... Iran gave the hostages back to avoid an ass beating. They don't have their Nukes yet and he realized that this would be a great reason (like one is really needed) to fuck up their program. Laser guided FTW!CameronPoe wrote:
Ahmedinejad is lettin' em go!
He apparently forgives the sailors and is releasing them as a gift to Britain! Sly dog!
Sources and details to follow.
What were those helpful tips from the hostage crisis in the late 70s/80s? Guess we won't be needing them after all...
As for the other suggestions people bandied about - attacking Iran - guess what? Israel tried that with Hezbollah: and guess who still hasn't got their men back? That's right - Israel. This is a victory for diplomacy over stupidity/warmongering.