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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Iran went into Iraqi waters and kidnapped British troops...

namsdrawkcaB wrote:

Discuss.

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

namsdrawkcaB wrote:

Just caus your americans...dont take any offence to this.

And where am I from?

I.M.I Militant wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Iran went into Iraqi waters and kidnapped British troops...

OFF TOPIC : IM IN YOUR WATERS. STEALING YOUR TROOOPPPSS

k30dxedle wrote:

I.M.I Militant wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Iran went into Iraqi waters and kidnapped British troops...

OFF TOPIC : IM IN YOUR WATERS. STEALING YOUR TROOOPPPSS

I didn't know the Iranians were in British waters.

namsdrawkcaB wrote:

America and Britain.

Well i am not attacking these countries, as i have nothing against them. Although the way they function seems a little unfair for countries like Iraq, Iran ect.
For example, British soldiers released today. That's good news, although lets turn the story around a bit. Just say, Iranian troops were found in American or British waters. This would be a whole different story. The Americans and British would drain every last drop with interrogating and so forth. They would not even think about letting them go. They would probably be drugged (As Saddam Hussein was) and gods knows what else. Now don't say, just because it was Easter, or there is something fishy going on. Intelligent people would have realised the point I am trying to make. Iran treated them with hospitality. As you could see on the video on the news that they were tucking away into the great food the Iran offers.

The way these country's are treated is appalling. Why are countries who dont have as much power treated this way?

Discuss.

Fen321 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

namsdrawkcaB wrote:

America and Britain.

Well i am not attacking these countries, as i have nothing against them. Although the way they function seems a little unfair for countries like Iraq, Iran ect.
For example, British soldiers released today. That's good news, although lets turn the story around a bit. Just say, Iranian troops were found in American or British waters. This would be a whole different story. The Americans and British would drain every last drop with interrogating and so forth. They would not even think about letting them go. They would probably be drugged (As Saddam Hussein was) and gods knows what else. Now don't say, just because it was Easter, or there is something fishy going on. Intelligent people would have realised the point I am trying to make. Iran treated them with hospitality. As you could see on the video on the news that they were tucking away into the great food the Iran offers.

The way these country's are treated is appalling. Why are countries who dont have as much power treated this way?

Discuss.

Obviously Iran treated them with hospitality because they were parading them on TV nearly everyday in an attempt to shame the West and rally their countrymen. You base a good portion of your argument on the presumption that they were in Iranian waters. The evidence I have seen suggest otherwise. Iran knows that if they mistreated the kidnapped it would be a good excuse for the world to end their nuclear ambitions permanently. They are selling propaganda to try and appear as a non threat in order to continue enriching uranium. You appear to be a loyal customer.

Check this out --- you appear to be a loyal consumer of all things portrayed in the west. You take all information presented to you by your government as factual none biased information and offer no reciprocal  acceptance of possible factual none biased information provided by other sources.  What evidence do you have that this took place in Iraqi international waters that does not completely self destruct the second someone mentions maritime border disputes in this region?

Your Iran knows statement is kinda funny since well -- the US knows that the 5 captured consular officials in Iraq are, in some cases, a greater aggressive use of force than that by Iran. Why? You ask could I come to this conclusion. Well seeing as we are big on people following proper International protocol guided by International Law -- why oh why would we take hostages (hmm i can use this word doesn't the connotation sound nice when I apply it to the west now?) from a consulate established in Iraq under the request of the Iraqi government. Funny this took place in January and NOW in APRIL we finally allowed consular officials to visit the detainees. We cried and bitch and moan and cried some more over a 13 day holding of troops during which time they were not offered consular visit -- a big no no in International protocol.

While the British have stated that no negotiations have taken place. "No deal done with Iran - Blair" Yet, the timing between the consular visit and the release of another Iranian Diplomatic personnel seems a bit too coincidental -- IMO.

Selling propaganda -- haha what a joke. They are selling as much propaganda as we are selling it in return. You think the hype doesn't go both ways.....? Wake up.

Kmarion wrote:

Fen321 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Obviously Iran treated them with hospitality because they were parading them on TV nearly everyday in an attempt to shame the West and rally their countrymen. You base a good portion of your argument on the presumption that they were in Iranian waters. The evidence I have seen suggest otherwise. Iran knows that if they mistreated the kidnapped it would be a good excuse for the world to end their nuclear ambitions permanently. They are selling propaganda to try and appear as a non threat in order to continue enriching uranium. You appear to be a loyal customer.

Check this out --- you appear to be a loyal consumer of all things portrayed in the west. You take all information presented to you by your government as factual none biased information and offer no reciprocal  acceptance of possible factual none biased information provided by other sources.  What evidence do you have that this took place in Iraqi international waters that does not completely self destruct the second someone mentions maritime border disputes in this region?

Your Iran knows statement is kinda funny since well -- the US knows that the 5 captured consular officials in Iraq are, in some cases, a greater aggressive use of force than that by Iran. Why? You ask could I come to this conclusion. Well seeing as we are big on people following proper International protocol guided by International Law -- why oh why would we take hostages (hmm i can use this word doesn't the connotation sound nice when I apply it to the west now?) from a consulate established in Iraq under the request of the Iraqi government. Funny this took place in January and NOW in APRIL we finally allowed consular officials to visit the detainees. We cried and bitch and moan and cried some more over a 13 day holding of troops during which time they were not offered consular visit -- a big no no in International protocol.

While the British have stated that no negotiations have taken place. "No deal done with Iran - Blair" Yet, the timing between the consular visit and the release of another Iranian Diplomatic personnel seems a bit too coincidental -- IMO.

Selling propaganda -- haha what a joke. They are selling as much propaganda as we are selling it in return. You think the hype doesn't go both ways.....? Wake up.

Even at best, what would give the Iranians the right to take the soldiers if the waters were disputed?... ooops ya kinda self destructed there yourself. Do we now go back with our warships to the exact same location and start taking Iranians that could "possibly" be in contested water? You are the blind one. You have admittedly justified taking the soldiers in an area that you describe as "disputed".

You obviously don't read any of my post if you are presuming I take everything the mass media gives to me as fact. I have formed my own opinion here.

PluggedValve wrote:

What were the soldiers doing there in the first place?  Shouldn't they be stabalising Iraq??  Not expanding the borders to gain a strategic foothold to attack Iran unprovoked.

PluggedValve wrote:

How many people(possibly terrorist and possibly not) have the US captured on foreign soil and then sent to Gitmo where law does not apply. 

The question is very valid.  Why does the US and Britain expect other nations to live by rules that they themselves do not live by???  (CIA torture flights, much?)

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-04-05 11:48:07)