Boomerjinks
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This is how you are a hypocrite.

Boomerjinks wrote:

Cougar wrote:

ATHEISTS ARE IDIOTS
...........................
However, before everyone jumps on the "bash Cougar" wagon (also, you be able to tell from the replies who did and didn't read this far), please note that I am not calling anyone who does not believe in God an idiot, because I'm not.
You say one thing but intend another.
Boomerjinks
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https://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040319h.jpg

This applies here, to Cougar.

Last edited by Boomerjinks (2007-04-09 18:37:07)

Cougar
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Boomerjinks wrote:

This is how you are a hypocrite.

Boomerjinks wrote:

Cougar wrote:

ATHEISTS ARE IDIOTS
...........................
However, before everyone jumps on the "bash Cougar" wagon (also, you be able to tell from the replies who did and didn't read this far), please note that I am not calling anyone who does not believe in God an idiot, because I'm not.
You say one thing but intend another.
No, I'm saying Atheists are idiots, not everyone who doesn't believe in God.  There are other "denominations" of non-believers you know.  Maybe if you would stop posting "?????????" every 15 seconds and read, you would know that.
TigerXtrm
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Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

That's where your point fails, not all the atheists do the stupid shit you say.  I know a lot of atheists, not apatheists, who deny the existence of God, and aren't idiots.
Birds of a feather.....


No, actually it doesn't need to be pushed.  I believe sergeriver recently made a thread about "pushing" beliefs on others.  Perhaps you should read it.

Also, I think Stalin tried that and it didn't work out so well.  I don't think have a snowballs chance in hell of making it work.
Aren't you pushing your beliefs on atheists, by claiming they are idiots, because they do care about the non-existence of God?
No, I am calling them hypocrites.  I'm not pushing any beliefs on them.
So... athiests are hypocrites for telling religious people they are idiots... but you are not a hypocrite for telling athiest people they are idiots? I agree, you're not a hypocrite, you're just fucking retarded.

Tiger
Cougar
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Boomerjinks wrote:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20040319h.jpg

This applies here, to Cougar.
This is coming from someone who drives the fucking ghostbusters car....

Also, if you ask around, I'm sure you could find some people that will tell you I'm not much different IRL.
Boomerjinks
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Cougar wrote:

Maybe if you would stop posting "?????????" every 15 seconds and read, you would know that.
I posted that once.

So already we have going for you:

-Overreliance on vulgarity and bullying

-Contradictions in argument

-Denial of the definitions of words

-Meaningless exaggerration

You are racking up quite the clout as a cunning debater
Wreckognize
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So wait, are you talking about Atheists in real life or one here on the forum? 

Cougar wrote:

Here are my reasons for this.  For one, it seemed that everytime someone came into the discussion who was of the "atheist persuasion" they had to announce right up front that "I am an ATHEIST!".  Haha, look at me, yes, I am an athiest and I am fucking proud, because I do not believe in God, baby Jesus or the Easter Bunny!  Thats great, but why should I care?  It's like a black man walking into a disco and yelling "HEY MOTHERFUCKA'S, I'S BLACK N SHIT!!"  Nobody cares, and frankly, for someone who doesn't believe in God, I find it ironic that most atheists...........wait, I'm sorry ALL atheists I know talk about God constantly.
Well, it is called Debate and Serious Talk...so if we're debating/seriously talking about religion, why should Atheists be excluded from the conversation?

As you can see by the image, strong atheism is considered to be explicit and we all know what explicit usually entails.  In your face, gratuitous and non stop stimulation in quantities that are in excess of the tolerable limit.  Now, I could understand someone being explicit about something that do believe in but I have a hard time understanding why anyone would put so much time and effort into something they supposedly don't even believe in.  I mean, when was the last time you went around telling your friends on a daily basis about how much you hate the idea of your imaginary childhood friend "Fred". Then go on to give examples, evidence and long theory's about how "Fred" isn't real and how no one should believe in "Fred" and you should spread the word about how "Fred" isn't real?   Please.  Give me a fucking break.  You cannot hate something that does not exist.
Because people don't blindly worship Fred, kill me for not believing in Fred, justify racism, bigotry, murder, genocide, and other intolerances with Fred's book, or wake me up at 6 in the morning to ask me, "Have you found Fred?"  As I said before, this is D&ST.  If you don't wanna hear Atheists talk about their opinions, odn't click on the topic. 


You know what it sounds, looks and feels like to me?  People who are angry with God, trying to get people to hate God with them.  That, makes you a fucking poser and a hypocrite.  The equivalent of a champagne socialist.  Your not an atheist, your a confused douchebag.
This may be true for some people, but the same rational can be applied to some Christians.  You're blindly following something that was bludgeoned into your head before you could think for yourself.  You're not a Christian, you're a confused sheep. 

However, before everyone jumps on the "bash Cougar" wagon (also, you be able to tell from the replies who did and didn't read this far), please note that I am not calling anyone who does not believe in God an idiot, because I'm not.  If you look at the diagram that I posted earlier you will notice it had two sides, strong athiesm and weak atheism, weak menaing implicit.  Those athiests are not really considered athiests but in all sense of the word are the only true athiests out there.
Give me a fucking break, you called Atheists idiots in the first 2 lines, and in the title, and you call them retards and douchebags a few lines down.

They are called Apatheists

These people just flat out, beyond any shadow of a doubt, don't give a flying fuck.  They don't give a shit about arguments, beliefs, deity's, God, Mohammed, buddah, nothing.  They believe that religion is a meaningless subject that really isn't important enough to even discuss.  Which is ironic, because no one really believes that the Easter Bunny is real, and therefor no one really cares about the Easter Bunny, furthermore, no one goes around cramming it down your throat that the Easter Bunny isn't real.  Apatheist's truly don't believe in these things and therefore find no reason to debate them, which as far as I'm concerned is about the purest form of atheism you can find.
Like I said before, people don't blindly worship the Easter Bunny, kill me for not believing in the Easter Bunny, justify racism, bigotry, murder, genocide, and other intolerances with the Easter Bunny's book, or wake me up at 6 in the morning to ask me, "Have you found the Easter Bunny?".


So remember children, going around calling yourself an atheist at every opportunity and trying to push your beliefs (or rather lack of, but not really, because you supposedly believe in nothing which in itself is a belief, which just further goes to show what a bunch of retards "atheist's are) on other people makes you look like a stupid, hateful and lonely douchebag.
Give me a fucking break.  Christians push their views on people as much if not more than Atheists. 


Remember children:  THIS IS DEBATE AND SERIOUS TALK.  During a debate/serious talk, you will inevitably come across as forcing your views on someone else.  Don't like it?  Sick of it?  THAN STAY OUT OF THE FUCKING FOLDER.
Skorpy-chan
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I could write a long post arguing against this.
But I can't be arsed. So, I will condense my argument down to a single point, thusly:

No, YOU'RE an idiot.
oug
Calmer than you are.
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Cougar wrote:

oug wrote:

Cougar wrote:

These people just flat out, beyond any shadow of a doubt, don't give a flying fuck.  They don't give a shit about arguments, beliefs, deity's, God, Mohammed, buddah, nothing.  They believe that religion is a meaningless subject that really isn't important enough to even discuss.
Now those are the real idiots.
I don't believe in the tooth fairy, so I'm an idiot for not caring...at all?
If the tooth fairy doesn't exist, you don't get money under your pillow. If god doesn't exist, some questions arise that are somewhat more important that pocket money. It's all got to do with the existence of an after-life. Some claim that if there is no such thing, if its just worm food, there is no reason for one to do the right thing, to act morally. So with all religions promising an after-life of punishment or reward, things get busy debate-wise.

Those who don't care about right and wrong, the purpose of life etc. are tools by definition.
ƒ³
Cougar
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TigerXtrm wrote:

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Aren't you pushing your beliefs on atheists, by claiming they are idiots, because they do care about the non-existence of God?
No, I am calling them hypocrites.  I'm not pushing any beliefs on them.
So... athiests are hypocrites for telling religious people they are idiots... but you are not a hypocrite for telling athiest people they are idiots? I agree, you're not a hypocrite, you're just fucking retarded.

Tiger
Or perhaps that is my opinion and you should have the mental fortitude to make up your own mind instead of trying to fight the incorporation of my ideals into your own. 

But no, you are wrong once again, because like boomerjinks, you are not paying attention.  I am calling atheists hypocrites because you cannot hate something or put so much effort into disproving something if there is not some inclination inside of you that thinks, in fact, that it does exist.  If you were 100% sure that it didn't exist you would feel no need to prove to yourself or others that it does not.  It's the anti-religious yin to the religous yang.  Religious people push their beliefs because they are certain beyond a shadow of a doubt God does exist.  Do you see what I am saying? 

I say "not all people who don't believe in God are idiots", because if you truly believe there is no God, you would not try to disprove or prove either way, because you know beyond any reasonable doubt that he does not exist, therefore the arguement is mute and holds no weight, voiding the reason to make the arguement in the begininng.
some_random_panda
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Obey_m0rph3us wrote:

So remember children, going around calling yourself an atheist at every opportunity and trying to push your beliefs (or rather lack of, but not really, because you supposedly believe in nothing which in itself is a belief, which just further goes to show what a bunch of retards "atheist's are) on other people makes you look like a stupid, hateful and lonely douchebag.
Give me a fucking break.  Christians (massive generalisation) push their views on people as much if not more than Atheists.
I do?
Have I ever posted a single post here outlining my views on my religion or on Atheism?  No, the most I've said is "I agree." which is a PASSIVE statement, not one with which I try to force my opinions on anyone.

Give ME a f***ing break.

Last edited by some_random_panda (2007-04-09 18:47:08)

Doctor Strangelove
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This is the best religion thread ever. Cougar is my God know (haha Jesus, you've gotten replaced).
Boomerjinks
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some_random_panda wrote:

I do?
Have I ever posted a single post here outlining my views on my religion or on Atheism?  No, the most I've said is "I agree." which is a PASSIVE statement, not one with which I try to force my opinions on anyone.

Give ME a f***ing break.
One of the greatest faults and pitfalls of this argument is how very personally everyone takes it. Side A makes a generalized claim and Side B uses themselves and the "sole unwavering evidence" to debunk it.


I am an atheist, very much so of one.

I may make fun of mormons in the private company of my own friends, and I also recognize the benefit a community can receive from a congregation of citizens such as a church.

I mostly speak out when my own personal rights, or the personal rights of others, are violated, stepped on, or threatened. For the most part I keep to myself, as I do not wish to step on the personal rights of others, whether or not they believe the same thing as me. As an individual, it is their right to do what they like.

Now, I am not saying Cougar should not believe what he does, nor am I saying that he does not have the right to say what he is saying.

I am, however, saying that his claims are inaccurrate, generalized, and presented in a way that will not be as effective as rallying people for his cause as it would be if he thought it through again.

Last edited by Boomerjinks (2007-04-09 18:52:14)

David.P
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Cougar maybe you should've titled this thread "Why some Atheists are idiots"
Boomerjinks
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David.Podedworny wrote:

Cougar maybe you should've titled this thread "Why some Atheists are idiots"
I would have titled it "Some teenage atheists who like to start scuffles on the internet with poorly-though-out attacks on the devout are idiots."
Wreckognize
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Cougar wrote:

TigerXtrm wrote:

Cougar wrote:


No, I am calling them hypocrites.  I'm not pushing any beliefs on them.
So... athiests are hypocrites for telling religious people they are idiots... but you are not a hypocrite for telling athiest people they are idiots? I agree, you're not a hypocrite, you're just fucking retarded.

Tiger
Or perhaps that is my opinion and you should have the mental fortitude to make up your own mind instead of trying to fight the incorporation of my ideals into your own. 

But no, you are wrong once again, because like boomerjinks, you are not paying attention.  I am calling atheists hypocrites because you cannot hate something or put so much effort into disproving something if there is not some inclination inside of you that thinks, in fact, that it does exist.  If you were 100% sure that it didn't exist you would feel no need to prove to yourself or others that it does not.  It's the anti-religious yin to the religous yang.  Religious people push their beliefs because they are certain beyond a shadow of a doubt God does exist.  Do you see what I am saying? 

I say "not all people who don't believe in God are idiots", because if you truly believe there is no God, you would not try to disprove or prove either way, because you know beyond any reasonable doubt that he does not exist, therefore the arguement is mute and holds no weight, voiding the reason to make the arguement in the begininng.
Apparently you're not paying either.  All of your arguments about Atheists can be applied to Christians.  If you believe 100% that God exists, why do you try and convince others he does exist? If you truly believe there is a God, you would not try to disprove or prove either way, because you know beyond any reasonable doubt that he does  exist, therefore the argument is mute and holds no weight, voiding the reason to make the argument in the beginning.


some_random_panda wrote:

Obey_m0rph3us wrote:

So remember children, going around calling yourself an atheist at every opportunity and trying to push your beliefs (or rather lack of, but not really, because you supposedly believe in nothing which in itself is a belief, which just further goes to show what a bunch of retards "atheist's are) on other people makes you look like a stupid, hateful and lonely douchebag.
Give me a fucking break.  Christians (massive generalisation) push their views on people as much if not more than Atheists.
I do?
Have I ever posted a single post here outlining my views on my religion or on Atheism?  No, the most I've said is "I agree." which is a PASSIVE statement, not one with which I try to force my opinions on anyone.

Give ME a f***ing break.
Did I say "some_random_panda pushes his views on people as much if not more than Atheists".  I'm talking about Christian in general.  Those people on the street who ask me if I found Jesus aren't pushing their views on me?  Those people who come to my door and ask me about Jesus aren't pushing their views on me?
rawls
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

KylieTastic wrote:


Trouble is both wifes and whores want your money for it!
Ahh, there lies my point. If you beleive in the "I don't beleive in force fed religion shit" getting passed around then yeah you gotta spend a ton to get snatch. But in the bible you just have to be able to support your wife and the childrens she pops out. Nowhere does it say you got to buy her louis vitton shit or have her rolling in a Lincoln Navi with 22" rims.
Or you could follow the - there is no god, only Zuul - mantra and realize all you have to do is be a moral person who values life and respects those as he would like to be respected and you get all the women you want (well, not all, but I've never had a problem).

On a side note, the only two girls I have ever met that have had an abortion go to church every sunday and consider themselves religous.
Zuul? Wasn't he from Ghostbusters? Anyways, those two girls may think they religious but when they die they'll find out the truth, Unless they repent for their sins then they jsut have to spend a couple thousand years in purgatory then they can be let into heaven. And no they don't have to kill any jews to get into heaven.
David.P
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Boomerjinks wrote:

David.Podedworny wrote:

Cougar maybe you should've titled this thread "Why some Atheists are idiots"
I would have titled it "Some teenage atheists who like to start scuffles on the internet with poorly-though-out attacks on the devout are idiots."
I was being serious. No more posting on this thread here.
Turquoise
O Canada
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rawls wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

rawls2 wrote:


Ahh, there lies my point. If you beleive in the "I don't beleive in force fed religion shit" getting passed around then yeah you gotta spend a ton to get snatch. But in the bible you just have to be able to support your wife and the childrens she pops out. Nowhere does it say you got to buy her louis vitton shit or have her rolling in a Lincoln Navi with 22" rims.
Or you could follow the - there is no god, only Zuul - mantra and realize all you have to do is be a moral person who values life and respects those as he would like to be respected and you get all the women you want (well, not all, but I've never had a problem).

On a side note, the only two girls I have ever met that have had an abortion go to church every sunday and consider themselves religous.
Zuul? Wasn't he from Ghostbusters? Anyways, those two girls may think they religious but when they die they'll find out the truth, Unless they repent for their sins then they jsut have to spend a couple thousand years in purgatory then they can be let into heaven. And no they don't have to kill any jews to get into heaven.
So would it be considered a sin if someone had an abortion to save her own life? (in the case where the mother stands a high chance of dying during childbirth)
Boomerjinks
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Cougar is confusing people that curse god with people that do not believe in god.
some_random_panda
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Obey_m0rph3us wrote:

Cougar wrote:

TigerXtrm wrote:


So... athiests are hypocrites for telling religious people they are idiots... but you are not a hypocrite for telling athiest people they are idiots? I agree, you're not a hypocrite, you're just fucking retarded.

Tiger
Or perhaps that is my opinion and you should have the mental fortitude to make up your own mind instead of trying to fight the incorporation of my ideals into your own. 

But no, you are wrong once again, because like boomerjinks, you are not paying attention.  I am calling atheists hypocrites because you cannot hate something or put so much effort into disproving something if there is not some inclination inside of you that thinks, in fact, that it does exist.  If you were 100% sure that it didn't exist you would feel no need to prove to yourself or others that it does not.  It's the anti-religious yin to the religous yang.  Religious people push their beliefs because they are certain beyond a shadow of a doubt God does exist.  Do you see what I am saying? 

I say "not all people who don't believe in God are idiots", because if you truly believe there is no God, you would not try to disprove or prove either way, because you know beyond any reasonable doubt that he does not exist, therefore the arguement is mute and holds no weight, voiding the reason to make the arguement in the begininng.
Apparently you're not paying either.  All of your arguments about Atheists can be applied to Christians.  If you believe 100% that God exists, why do you try and convince others he does exist? If you truly believe there is a God, you would not try to disprove or prove either way, because you know beyond any reasonable doubt that he does  exist, therefore the argument is mute and holds no weight, voiding the reason to make the argument in the beginning.


some_random_panda wrote:

Obey_m0rph3us wrote:

Give me a fucking break.  Christians (massive generalisation) push their views on people as much if not more than Atheists.
I do?
Have I ever posted a single post here outlining my views on my religion or on Atheism?  No, the most I've said is "I agree." which is a PASSIVE statement, not one with which I try to force my opinions on anyone.

Give ME a f***ing break.
Did I say "some_random_panda pushes his views on people as much if not more than Atheists".  I'm talking about Christian in general.  Those people on the street who ask me if I found Jesus aren't pushing their views on me?  Those people who come to my door and ask me about Jesus aren't pushing their views on me?
I happen to be Christian, but if you want, I'll come to your door too.

Last edited by some_random_panda (2007-04-09 19:02:34)

Boomerjinks
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Turquoise wrote:

So would it be considered a sin if someone had an abortion to save her own life? (in the case where the mother stands a high chance of dying during childbirth)
Actually, yes!

Catholic doctrine states that abortion will have you winding up in hell, but the punishment is the same for suicide.

So... you're damned if you do....
rawls
Banned
+11|7242|California, USA

Turquoise wrote:

rawls wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


Or you could follow the - there is no god, only Zuul - mantra and realize all you have to do is be a moral person who values life and respects those as he would like to be respected and you get all the women you want (well, not all, but I've never had a problem).

On a side note, the only two girls I have ever met that have had an abortion go to church every sunday and consider themselves religous.
Zuul? Wasn't he from Ghostbusters? Anyways, those two girls may think they religious but when they die they'll find out the truth, Unless they repent for their sins then they jsut have to spend a couple thousand years in purgatory then they can be let into heaven. And no they don't have to kill any jews to get into heaven.
So would it be considered a sin if someone had an abortion to save her own life? (in the case where the mother stands a high chance of dying during childbirth)
The old "What if the mommas going to die" excuse. If I was the real God I would allow it. If I was an  Islamic God then the women would have to die. Thats why my God rules.
rawls
Banned
+11|7242|California, USA

Boomerjinks wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

So would it be considered a sin if someone had an abortion to save her own life? (in the case where the mother stands a high chance of dying during childbirth)
Actually, yes!

Catholic doctrine states that abortion will have you winding up in hell, but the punishment is the same for suicide.

So... you're damned if you do....
Don't listen to this guy. He's never talked to God.
Boomerjinks
Member
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rawls wrote:

Don't listen to this guy. He's never talked to God.
Prove it

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