Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7215|Dallas
Hypocritical.

In this video Richard Pryor claims he would stop using the N Word, then in the back half, Paul Mooney says it about 400 times and then bashes some white folks.


And in this video, at 1:20 you can see Michael Richards apologizing on Jesse Jackson's radio show and guess who's sitting right next to him.  Paul fucking Mooney.


This is all quite frightening to me.  In the second video, Kramer starts talking about how he is going to go see a psychatrist to "help open up the healing" and "find out whats is wrong with me".  Now, lets look at this, in one video we have Paul Mooney saying the n word about 50 times, then talking about how he wanted to beat a white womans face in, then in the next video, we have Paul Mooney sitting next to Kramer on Jesse Jacksons radio show as he apologizes for having a nervous breakdown...? 

Thats the pot calling the kettle nigger if you ask me.

Ohh, and now I've used it!!  That must mean I am sick/depressed/stressed/racist/bigot/asshole/nazi/etc.  Let me go get professional help right away!  Aha!  But wait!  According to Paul Mooney, it's perfectly fine if the word is used in a joke and goes no further!  So I guess I am safe.  But I'm sure I will be called a racist because I am white, therfore I can say nothing negative to a black person, but I am supposed to tolerate everything they say about me.  That is the way things are!  Nevermind that the last slave and slave owner died at least 70 years ago, I am still held responsible for the actions of my ancestors and what people did in the 60's before I was even fucking born!!!

Now we have Don Imus.  He didn't even use the word, he said "nappy headed hoes".  So?  They are.  They have nappy hair and I'm sure they've slept with more than one person.  So what?  I mean, thats a pretty broad definition too, I'm sure if you asked a random black guy what a "ho" was he would say "bitches".  So, the whole media carousel goes round and round again, first it's the Rev Al Sharpton, then the NAACP, then Jesse Jackson, then every black has been who doesn't have a career anymore trying to throw in their two cents so they can get 30 seconds of air time on CNN before they sink back into obscurity (I'm talking to you SINBAD).

But before we get too deep into all that I have a few questions of my own.

1. Is Rev Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson even actual Reverends?  If so, why are they not preaching in Church instead of running a radio station, running for president, spending all this time crackin down on white people who said something slightly offensive on radio/TV/stage/etc?  Also, who the fuck made them the national spokespersons for "fess up and apologize white guy INC" anyways?

2. Who exactly is the spokesperson for white/Latino/Asian/middle-eastern and European citizens for when we are the "victims" of racial hatred?

3. NAACP.  Is there a white/Latino/Asian/pacific-islander/ version?  If not, why? 

4. What the fuck does Paul Mooney, Sinbad, or half the idiots that were on FOX, CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC know about anything and why are they an authority on what is ok and what is not?

5. Why should people like Don Imus and Michael Richards be subjected to the kind of scrutiny that they are when you have people like Dave Chappelle, Paul Mooney, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock and ........well, have you EVER seen a black comedian who didn't say shitty things about white people?  As a matter of fact, have you ever heard a rapper say nice things about a white person?  Why are they not reaping the whirlwind, and what makes them think that they can spew that shit on the world and not answer to anyone, but then turn around and tell other people they are monsters for doing the exact same thing and to a smaller degree?

Personally, I think black people should receive no respect and no equality until they get their own people under control.  You cannot demand equality and a hate free environment when the loudest voices in your community promote it so openly and freely.  You cannot perform public "lynchings" on white people for doing nothing more in one sentence than what most black people, famous or not, do to each other every day.  Thats hypocrisy to the maximum.  You want equality, then prove it by treating yourself and others as equals, instead of being a bunch of double standard having idiots. 

That, really is the pot calling the kettle nigger.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6980|Global Command
Imus didn't call them nappy headed nigga hoes.

So where is the racism in what he said?

I hate the media, and the reasons you cited are a large part of it.

Nice sig, btw.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7122|UK
en eye gee gee eh is racist is it not?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6980|Global Command
I said it, not Imus.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7113|USA
I heard the KKK is making a comeback. That will level the playing field a bit.

KKK vs Rainbow Push Coalition

Id pay for that on Pay Per View.

Im just sad I'll have nothing on the news for the next two months but Imus, a half retarded 400 year old radio show host that no one watches anyway.

He should know if he is going to make racial comments, do it on the internet. Seems to be the popular thing.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6973|...

One question to anwer is why are some people more notably accountable for they say racially and some aren't? Answer: money.

Imus makes someone a ton of money. ATG does not. Imus says "nappy headed hoz", along come Al and Jesse to (interfere with non black income/promote thier influence). ATG could actually say "nigger", but because he makes money for noone, no Al and Jesse because it does not benefit them. But KCAL channel 2 films ATG saying "nigger", then its on. So truly its not about racism, its about money.

You may say its not money its "tv face time" ... blah blah  ... buts that all it boils down to.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7113|USA
Maybe if white people had a voice like Jesse or Al. But you can't have neo-nazi skinheads supporting white rights. It doesn't exactly cover all the normal people who don't want to hail hitler. So until you get a sensible person to stand up say "Hey! Us white people are the minority and this shit is getting old and more and more unfair."

As far as double standards, as a white male, welcome to the club. Women fought against it for so long, minorities (when they were minorities) fought against it. THe black man holding white people down with double standards? So the gripe is, shit isn't fair. Welcome to America.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Maybe if white people had a voice like Jesse or Al.
Why isn't it just worked out between Imus and the people he offended? Why is there even a need for the two artifacts? I can't understand why the media immediately looks to these guys when there is any kind of racial controversy.

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Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7113|USA

Kmarion wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Maybe if white people had a voice like Jesse or Al.
Why isn't it just worked out between Imus and the people he offended? Why is there even a need for the two artifacts? I can't understand why the media immediately looks to these guys when there is any kind of racial controversy.

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I agree with that. FInd a way to get rid of Jesse and Al from the picture then you have a chance. Not happening.
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6839|New York
Hypocracy all the way. Double standards are popular nowadays it seems. This brings me to one of my favorite songs by NOFX, lyrics are as follows.

Don't call me white, Don't call me white

The connotations wearing my nerves thin
Could it be semantics generating the mess we're in?
I understand that language breeds stereotype
But what's the explanation for the malice, for the spite?

Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

I wasn't brought here, I was born
Circumsized, categorized, allegiance sworn,
Does this mean I have to take such shit
For being fairskinned? No!
I ain't a part of no conspiracy,
I'm just you're average Joe.


Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

Represents everything I hate,
The soap shoved in your mouth to cleanse the mind
The vast majority of sheep
A buttoned collar, starched and bleached
Constricting veins, the blood flow to the brain slows
They're so fuckin' ordinary white

Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

We're better off this way
Say what you're gonna say
So go ahead and label me
An asshole cause I can
Accept responsibility, for what I've done
But not for who I am
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

Aww yea...

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Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
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+1 and sticky
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7208|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

Personally, I think black people should receive no respect and no equality until they get their own people under control.  You cannot demand equality and a hate free environment when the loudest voices in your community promote it so openly and freely.  You cannot perform public "lynchings" on white people for doing nothing more in one sentence than what most black people, famous or not, do to each other every day.  Thats hypocrisy to the maximum.  You want equality, then prove it by treating yourself and others as equals, instead of being a bunch of double standard having idiots. 

That, really is the pot calling the kettle nigger.
I understand you don't like black people bashing white people concerning the N word since they say it all the time, but saying they should receive no respect or equality until whatever is kinda racist.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7215|Dallas

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Personally, I think black people should receive no respect and no equality until they get their own people under control.  You cannot demand equality and a hate free environment when the loudest voices in your community promote it so openly and freely.  You cannot perform public "lynchings" on white people for doing nothing more in one sentence than what most black people, famous or not, do to each other every day.  Thats hypocrisy to the maximum.  You want equality, then prove it by treating yourself and others as equals, instead of being a bunch of double standard having idiots. 

That, really is the pot calling the kettle nigger.
I understand you don't like black people bashing white people concerning the N word since they say it all the time, but saying they should receive no respect or equality until whatever is kinda racist.
It's not the fact that black people are bashing white people that pisses me off, it's the fact that black people openly and gratuitously call each other niggers, IRL, in music, in movies, and on TV.  They bash the piss out of other races and then turn around always cry about equality and fairness and all that shit.

My point is, you cannot demand something from people that you can't even deliver yourself.  You don't demand respect, you don't demand equality, you EARN IT.  They, as a race in whole, are not earning squat. 

If they really wanted equality and respect as much as they claim they do, they would treat all people from all races, even their own, like Don Imus or Michael Richards when they use the N word or other racial insults.  But they won't, because that would mean they would no longer have the race card to play when they get into a tight situation.  If the above stated ever happens, I will eat my shoes and socks in the middle of the street whilst naked.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7167
What I really hate about black people is that they're lazy and demand respect. I actually respect Mexicans more since they actually work, not live off welfare.
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Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7173|Eastern PA

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

What I really hate about black people is that they're lazy and demand respect. I actually respect Mexicans more since they actually work, not live off welfare.
So the 33 million black people in the US (assuming you're referring only to the US) are all lazy? And what's wrong with demanding respect?

EDIT: One need to look at all the baseless generalizations and wrong-headed logic in this thread to see how sorely needed some of the organizations you here so readily attack:
1) black people as lazy
2) they all call each other "niggers"
3) most are on welfare
4) "if some black people call each other "nigger" then why can't white people"
5) "blacks as a group are to be held responsible for the actions of individual blacks"
6) "they" don't deserve respect because of the actions of a few (as of yet I don't see many people arguing that whites as a group need to be held to account for the depravity of David Duke)

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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

Masques wrote:

And what's wrong with demanding respect?
Because anyone can demand.
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jsnipy
...
+3,277|6973|...

Masques wrote:

And what's wrong with demanding respect?
Respect is earned, not demanded.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7208|Argentina

Cougar wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Personally, I think black people should receive no respect and no equality until they get their own people under control.  You cannot demand equality and a hate free environment when the loudest voices in your community promote it so openly and freely.  You cannot perform public "lynchings" on white people for doing nothing more in one sentence than what most black people, famous or not, do to each other every day.  Thats hypocrisy to the maximum.  You want equality, then prove it by treating yourself and others as equals, instead of being a bunch of double standard having idiots. 

That, really is the pot calling the kettle nigger.
I understand you don't like black people bashing white people concerning the N word since they say it all the time, but saying they should receive no respect or equality until whatever is kinda racist.
It's not the fact that black people are bashing white people that pisses me off, it's the fact that black people openly and gratuitously call each other niggers, IRL, in music, in movies, and on TV.  They bash the piss out of other races and then turn around always cry about equality and fairness and all that shit.

My point is, you cannot demand something from people that you can't even deliver yourself.  You don't demand respect, you don't demand equality, you EARN IT.  They, as a race in whole, are not earning squat. 

If they really wanted equality and respect as much as they claim they do, they would treat all people from all races, even their own, like Don Imus or Michael Richards when they use the N word or other racial insults.  But they won't, because that would mean they would no longer have the race card to play when they get into a tight situation.  If the above stated ever happens, I will eat my shoes and socks in the middle of the street whilst naked.
I agree with you.  Sometimes they are a bit racist to white people and other groups.  You should consider they were an oppressed minority for quite a long time.  Maybe some of them feel they need reparations.  But if they don't like to be called nigger don't call them that.  If they call themselves nigger it's their problem.  Why does that bother you anyway?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,074|7222|PNW

Yeah, yeah. We're going through this thread by thread and it is a double-standard, but how about this: don't give a shit. Every time somebody complains about word usage, take them a bit less seriously.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-04-11 08:26:06)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

jsnipy wrote:

Masques wrote:

And what's wrong with demanding respect?
Respect is earned, not demanded.
Correct. Lets not confuse respect with equality.
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7167

Masques wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

What I really hate about black people is that they're lazy and demand respect. I actually respect Mexicans more since they actually work, not live off welfare.
So the 33 million black people in the US (assuming you're referring only to the US) are all lazy? And what's wrong with demanding respect?
Yes I'm talking about the US. You can't demand respect, you earn it. They always pull the race card, if you disagree with them, they say "You hate me just coz I'm black".

For example

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/10/snoop … index.html

Snoop dogg is on probation even though he's caught with bags of cocaine, marijuana and drugs. Normally, you would be sent to jail. But he's on only probation for now.

Let me ask you this, take Detroit for example, an area full of black people, has one of the highest crime rates. Explain to me why. Also in Africa, they start killing each other for diamonds and gold. Why can't they just work together and sell the shit like every other race?
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Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|7173|Eastern PA

Kmarion wrote:

Masques wrote:

And what's wrong with demanding respect?
Because anyone can demand.
Yes. My question still stands.

What is wrong fundamentally with demanding respect?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

Masques wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Masques wrote:

And what's wrong with demanding respect?
Because anyone can demand.
Yes. My question still stands.

What is wrong fundamentally with demanding respect?
Ok, let me break it down a little more extreme to help clarify. A person can molest 8 kids and demand respect. Do you give it to them? Respect should be measured by our actions and character. Not by a request for it.

Last edited by Kmarion (2007-04-11 08:34:39)

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Stingray24
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sergeriver wrote:

I agree with you.  Sometimes they are a bit racist to white people and other groups.  You should consider they were an oppressed minority for quite a long time.  Maybe some of them feel they need reparations.  But if they don't like to be called nigger don't call them that.  If they call themselves nigger it's their problem.  Why does that bother you anyway?
"Were" is the operative word, no one is an oppressed minority in the US since the white male is the only acceptable target of criticism.  I could understand if someone who directly experienced slavery still felt oppressed, but most of those spouting the "I'm the same race, so I was/am oppressed" bullshit aren't even old enough to remember segregated schools.

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