firebug
Member
+1|6677|England
I now use the Krylov when I'm PAC and Baur when I'm EU, but used to use the Voss (and did really well with it) all the time. I think the Voss really suited my "up close and personal" playing style and I only stopped using it to give myself more of a challenge. I do pretty well with all the Assault guns, although probably less so with the Baur, but I find it's the most satifying to kill people with.

All the guns have strengths and weaknesses though, you just have to pick the one that best suits your playing style and the map you're playing on (for example I'd never take the Voss on Verdun or something like that).
psH
Banned
+217|6825|Sydney

Masterstyle wrote:

SlightlySto0pid wrote:

To keep it simple and please those with ADD,

why do people use the Voss on the PAC side?
I dont know, its an impending crisis bound to crumble 2142 as a whole.
stuck in a vortex of 6e history-repeating.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6785|California

Inspect@hDeck wrote:

xBlackPantherx wrote:

BF2Craglyeye wrote:

I played 2142 for awhile there and when i did the krylov was by far the best weapon in the game.

but time and time again i was shot by the g36 of 2142.... the Voss.

The bullshit LMGs also is another reason the game is trash.
If you dont like the game, STFU AND LEAVE THIS SECTION OF THE FORUMS.


Not that fucking hard.
Just because he doesn't like the game doesn't mean his input isn't valuable. If you're favourite sports team is loosing a game, which you don't like, would you leave the stadium?
That is NOWHERE near the same thing as what I'm talking about. Get your similes correct. My FAVORITE team losing and me hating 2142 and coming in that forum to dump on it are two COMPLETELY different things.


firebug wrote:

I now use the Krylov when I'm PAC and Baur when I'm EU, but used to use the Voss (and did really well with it) all the time. I think the Voss really suited my "up close and personal" playing style and I only stopped using it to give myself more of a challenge. I do pretty well with all the Assault guns, although probably less so with the Baur, but I find it's the most satifying to kill people with.

All the guns have strengths and weaknesses though, you just have to pick the one that best suits your playing style and the map you're playing on (for example I'd never take the Voss on Verdun or something like that).
I love the Voss on the titan. Best all-around gun for titan.
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|7019|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Ice Cold Killa wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Voss is the nooblet gun.
Slickfish
Member
+24|7065
I seem to do well with the Krylov and both standard LMG's.

Not really used to voss for age's, it good but I just dont like the feel to it now I've used the Krylov so much.

I might try it again, see if I can get the hang of it.
jmc514
Member
+4|6905|Boston, MA
I used to be obsessed with the Voss when I first unlocked it, but after playing around with the Krylov a bit more I have to say I find the Krylov more effective at everything other than full auto at 5m or less.

It's not a bad gun, just there's better options available in the Baur and Krylov.
trentnorris
Scar 11 whore
+22|7097
i prefer the my krylov over any gun. because its my nr 1 used gun.

also if people wants to use the voss let em use it.
it just makes em more easy targets on long range for me.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7179

Bah. Krylov, Voss, Baur. I don't give a f*ck about them. As long as they don't nerf my beloved L5.
trentnorris
Scar 11 whore
+22|7097

Bernadictus wrote:

Bah. Krylov, Voss, Baur. I don't give a f*ck about them. As long as they don't nerf my beloved L5.
when was there a discussion about the l5? stick to the topic plz thx you.
Buzerk1
Member
+44|7278

trentnorris wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

Bah. Krylov, Voss, Baur. I don't give a f*ck about them. As long as they don't nerf my beloved L5.
when was there a discussion about the l5? stick to the topic plz thx you.
LOL a MOD being MOD LOL
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7179

trentnorris wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

Bah. Krylov, Voss, Baur. I don't give a f*ck about them. As long as they don't nerf my beloved L5.
when was there a discussion about the l5? stick to the topic plz thx you.
Ouch that hurt. But I know you feel offended when I offend your beloved Krylov . You use it just like a Voss.

I personally starting to like the Krylov. Lot's of practice needed though. Way different play style then the Baur or the Lambert.
Magius5.0
Member
+106|6823|UMass Amherst
Baur still is the deadliest.  Four shots, boom...dead as a doornail in most cases, less if you get a couple headshots.

Also, something I know you guys will love: I played the 1.25 beta patch, and they nerfed the LMG's like a motherfucker.  The recoil is enormous now, you actually have to control it and have some skill in your aiming to keep it steady; all the people bitching about support whores, you may kiss my ass now, I will now own you by mere skill rather than have an anger-o-matic that even a n00b can use easily.

Last edited by Magius5.0 (2007-04-19 23:58:33)

Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7179

Magius5.0 wrote:

Baur still is the deadliest.  Four shots, boom...dead as a doornail in most cases, less if you get a couple headshots.

Also, something I know you guys will love: I played the 1.25 beta patch, and they nerfed the LMG's like a motherfucker.  The recoil is enormous now, you actually have to control it and have some skill in your aiming to keep it steady; all the people bitching about support whores, you may kiss my ass now, I will now own you by mere skill rather than have an anger-o-matic that even a n00b can use easily.
Are there more major weapon changes?
Volatile
Member
+252|7146|Sextupling in Empire

Magius5.0 wrote:

Baur still is the deadliest.  Four shots, boom...dead as a doornail in most cases, less if you get a couple headshots.

Also, something I know you guys will love: I played the 1.25 beta patch, and they nerfed the LMG's like a motherfucker.  The recoil is enormous now, you actually have to control it and have some skill in your aiming to keep it steady; all the people bitching about support whores, you may kiss my ass now, I will now own you by mere skill rather than have an anger-o-matic that even a n00b can use easily.
Are they just changing shit now to keep themselves preoccupied? They need to leave the weapons alone and make some more maps.
Slickfish
Member
+24|7065

Volatile_Squirrel wrote:

Magius5.0 wrote:

Baur still is the deadliest.  Four shots, boom...dead as a doornail in most cases, less if you get a couple headshots.

Also, something I know you guys will love: I played the 1.25 beta patch, and they nerfed the LMG's like a motherfucker.  The recoil is enormous now, you actually have to control it and have some skill in your aiming to keep it steady; all the people bitching about support whores, you may kiss my ass now, I will now own you by mere skill rather than have an anger-o-matic that even a n00b can use easily.
Are they just changing shit now to keep themselves preoccupied? They need to leave the weapons alone and make some more maps.
EA are on a mission to mess up 2142 as well!!!.
Why can't they leave it alone FFS!!!!.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7179

Slickfish wrote:

Volatile_Squirrel wrote:

Magius5.0 wrote:

Baur still is the deadliest.  Four shots, boom...dead as a doornail in most cases, less if you get a couple headshots.

Also, something I know you guys will love: I played the 1.25 beta patch, and they nerfed the LMG's like a motherfucker.  The recoil is enormous now, you actually have to control it and have some skill in your aiming to keep it steady; all the people bitching about support whores, you may kiss my ass now, I will now own you by mere skill rather than have an anger-o-matic that even a n00b can use easily.
Are they just changing shit now to keep themselves preoccupied? They need to leave the weapons alone and make some more maps.
EA are on a mission to mess up 2142 as well!!!.
Why can't they leave it alone FFS!!!!.
If I agree with EA on one thing, then it's nerfing the LMG's, which are way out of balance with the other weapons.

(Shuko outsniping a Zeller as a good example).
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6942|so randum
Good point, well presented.
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Use an umbrella
Slickfish
Member
+24|7065

Bernadictus wrote:

If I agree with EA on one thing, then it's nerfing the LMG's, which are way out of balance with the other weapons.

(Shuko outsniping a Zeller as a good example).
The LMG's arn't anything like that accurate until you've fired a good few rounds of!!

By which time a half decent sniper would have given you brain ventilation!!, if a snipers daft enough to sit still for you that long there are alot of other and much faster ways to kill them, like a BAUR or rifle rockets etc, there are loads.

I've only ever been one shot killed by the Ganz not the LMG's.

I heard something about the sentry gun being toned down in the next patch, now the LMG's, will everyone be happy when no-one bothers with support and you have run out of ammo!!!.

It just need's leaving alone!!, learn from the steady mullering of bf2.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7179

Slickfish wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

If I agree with EA on one thing, then it's nerfing the LMG's, which are way out of balance with the other weapons.

(Shuko outsniping a Zeller as a good example).
The LMG's arn't anything like that accurate until you've fired a good few rounds of!!

By which time a half decent sniper would have given you brain ventilation!!, if a snipers daft enough to sit still for you that long there are alot of other and much faster ways to kill them, like a BAUR or rifle rockets etc, there are loads.

I've only ever been one shot killed by the Ganz not the LMG's.

I heard something about the sentry gun being toned down in the next patch, now the LMG's, will everyone be happy when no-one bothers with support and you have run out of ammo!!!.

It just need's leaving alone!!, learn from the steady mullering of bf2.
No the problem is that LMG's are more accurate standing than firing a fricking Baur.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6942|so randum
He holds a good point
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Avantek
Banned
+7|6790|New York
Krylov is the best gun when I play PAC I always use the krylov and when I'm EU I have no choice but to use the Voss since the Scar 11 is one of the worst guns in the game.

Oh and I hate all people that whine about the game and the weapons. Your the scum of the gaming community all you do is Fuck up the game because stupid EA tends to listen to dumb little kiddies that whine on the boards and then move on to another game. In my opinion nothing should be change except the Glitches EA should work on the titan wall glitches and stuff before nurfing anything and creating new glitches.

The sentry gun is okay and its easy to avoid getting killed by it, all you have to do is pull your head out of ur ass and stop being a complete retard running towards the gun trying to destroy it. Here is a tip you see at A12 in the corridor you just bunny hop past it and it gets totally confused so it stops shooting. And the LMG's are great if you want to nurf that you gotta be out of your mind. Not only it takes forever for that thing to stabilize and might end up getting killed most times but the bonus is that your more accurate after you hold still.

Last edited by Avantek (2007-04-20 08:58:34)

Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7179

Avantek wrote:

Krylov is the best gun when I play PAC I always use the krylov and when I'm EU I have no choice but to use the Voss since the Scar 11 is one of the worst guns in the game.

Oh and I hate all people that whine about the game and the weapons. Your the scum of the gaming community all you do is Fuck up the game because stupid EA tends to listen to dumb little kiddies that whine on the boards and then move on to another game. In my opinion nothing should be change except the Glitches EA should work on the titan wall glitches and stuff before nurfing anything and creating new glitches.

The sentry gun is okay and its easy to avoid getting killed by it, all you have to do is pull your head out of ur ass and stop being a complete retard running towards the gun trying to destroy it. Here is a tip you see at A12 in the corridor you just bunny hop past it and it gets totally confused so it stops shooting. And the LMG's are great if you want to nurf that you gotta be out of your mind. Not only it takes forever for that thing to stabilize and might end up getting killed most times but the bonus is that your more accurate after you hold still.
Ok, I will try summing this up again. Because you obviously had not taken time to check my stats.

The Scar, Voss, Baur and Krylov are all good weapons in their own field. One outmatches the other in certain areas of combat. Close Quarter, precision, long distance, suppresion fire. All have their own pro's and con's.

And to move on to more pressing things. Mr. 'Major' have you taken the time to check up on my stats, then you would have seen that I have full positive k/d ratio with both the Shuko and the Bianchi LMG's. I have absolutelly no issue using them, and them being used against me.

What I do hate, is the fact that people use this gun without any skill, without any mastering. I have deep respect for people like Trentnorris, that have managed to master the Krylov, and obtain and sustain a high-ranking with it.

The A-12 I don't give a shit about. When the enemy team is corridor camping, as I call it, I exit the titan and go for the silo's, which give me loads more points.

So, as for your 'dumb little kids whining ea to nerf everything' I stand by the nerfing of the Shuko and the Bianchi, but for the rest they need to leave the game alone. Everyting is fine as it is, except for the support class.

And concerning the dissappearing of the support players, they still have 2 devastating weapons, which DO require skill; the Ganz HMG and the Clark shotgun.

So if you have anything more to complain to me about, or if you want to call me a little whine kiddie, then I invite you to a friendly game of 2142 to match skills. 'Major' nubster.
Slickfish
Member
+24|7065

Bernadictus wrote:

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No the problem is that LMG's are more accurate standing than firing a fricking Baur.
It not accurate at all until you've fire 5-6 rounds, what do you want support having cork guns.

Aaa well you have your opinion I have mine. I hope they dont nerf it im tired of endless nerf's from EA.
Magius5.0
Member
+106|6823|UMass Amherst
Damn have I stirred up the hornets nest!

Anyways, the support guns still have their deadly accuracy when firing for prolonged periods--but, you need more control than you ever did before.  I kinda like that, they've finally balanced out the support class so that assault/recon/engineers stand more of a chance against these entrenched guys.  Plus, you gotta figure, a gun that big, would obviously have far more recoil upwards anyways.

Other balance fixing included the obvious reduction of range and HP of sentry turrets, and the detection radius of APM mines, most of which can be found in the beta patch list (located Here).  They're getting better about that balance thing...now if EA could only fix the damn scorpion spamming in Command and Conquer 3.

*Edit* I really need to check my typos.

Last edited by Magius5.0 (2007-04-20 10:45:39)

Avantek
Banned
+7|6790|New York

Bernadictus wrote:

So if you have anything more to complain to me about, or if you want to call me a little whine kiddie, then I invite you to a friendly game of 2142 to match skills. 'Major' nubster.
Well for your information I am not a major just haven't updates my banner for months now. I'm Brig General in 2142 and a Captain in Battlefield 2 so if you think your better then someone just because your ranked higher then him then you must be full of yourself.

So I'm higher rank then you "nubster" but i'm not an egoistic prick like you. I'm glad now that I did not update my banners so I could experince what an asshole you can be to someone thats lower rank then you.

"so if you took the time to check my stats" to click on my banner which is directly linked to the stats site you would know.

I'm in the position to not change the gameplay at all don't nurf anything just get there glitches exploits fixed before doing anything about the gameplay.

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