stef10
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In the Virginia murdering the killer has written the words Ismail AX on his arm.

Many do not know what this means. I have made a bit of a search on wikipedia and seen that a guy may have a clue to what this mean.

Ismail is an Islamic Prophet.

AX can stand for Alpha Chi Omega women’s fraternity, which does have a chapter at Virginia Tech.

Or this can be it.

Ismail´s father, Ibrahim wanted to sacrifice Ismail for YAHWEH-God-From Torah-with an ax.
ghettoperson
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Sorry to ruin your conspiracy theories, but Islam isn't too popular in Korea.
stef10
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Well, I am not talking about Islam. Ibrahim was a Hebrew figure. And Islam has taken his son.
Ibrahim wanted to sacrifice his son for god. Commonly the God from Christianity or Judaism.
ghettoperson
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According to what I just found, people appear to think it's an Islamic conspiracy.

One of the top hits for 'Ismail AX' on Google wrote:

Now, how often are you going to see that the terrorist had "Ismail Ax" written under his arm?

Know what that means?

Ismail refers to Abraham of the Old Testament. Muslims world-wide use the name "Ismail" extensively.

Ax refers to the Muslim belief that he (Ismail/Abraham) was to kill Ishmael instead of Isaac (as in the Old Testamant) using an axe as opposed to a knife.

So it appears we have a widely understood Muslim reference to an Old Testament figure (Abraham) who was told to kill either his legitimate (per the Old Testament - Judaeo Christian) or his illegitimate (per Muslim belief) son by God's (or Allah's) command. The Old Testament reports this command was not carried out as God presented an alternative animal sacrifice to Abraham.

But the Old Testament says a knife was to be used while Muslims say an axe was the tool to be used. There is a difference in meaning. The word "axe" denotes the intention to decapitate, to cut off, the head. A knife denoted to stab the heart.

Thus, this phrase is undeniably related to Islam.

It can mean that Islam must kill the illigitimate "son", the unbeliever's, such as Americans.

Now ask, if he is a loner, where is he when he is "alone"?

While he is was English major, who are his professors? Is there a Muslim or Muslim sympathetic person? Close to Washigton, DC there are many Muslim mosques and even a majority Muslim area. Where do his parents live relative to Muslim areas?

Is there a Mosque or Islamic group meeting there? (Has to be!)

There is much more to this story. Will we see it?
stef10
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Hmmm, if was a believer of Islam then it is kind of ironic that it was a Jewish professor stopping him from entering his classroom and killing his class.
theelviscerator
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Good now we can outlaw islam once and for all in this country.
chittydog
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theelviscerator wrote:

Good now we can outlaw islam once and for all in this country.
Yes we can, as soon as we outlaw every other religion practiced by a mass-murderer in this country. And since we're violating people's first amendment rights, let's take away their guns and their right to not be tried twice for the same crime. And... let's quarter some British soldiers in everyone's houses too.
Yaocelotl
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Maybe Ismail AX is the name of the guy that kept owning him in WoW; also remember that the X is for 10 in roman numerals... Lots of possibilities
Yaocelotl
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chittydog wrote:

theelviscerator wrote:

Good now we can outlaw islam once and for all in this country.
Yes we can, as soon as we outlaw every other religion practiced by a mass-murderer in this country. And since we're violating people's first amendment rights, let's take away their guns and their right to not be tried twice for the same crime. And... let's quarter some British soldiers in everyone's houses too.
Talking about religions and mass murders, the #1 spot is for catholicism/cristianism.
Cougar
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Hundred bucks says it was is online gamer name.
chittydog
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I think Coug's got it.

Anyway, can anyone cite a credible news source that says he even had this on his arm? I've searched several and haven't found any mention of it.
topal63
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Cougar wrote:

Hundred bucks says it was is online gamer name.
I'll take that bet...
Wreckognize
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I read it was written in red ink, and writing someone's name in red is a taboo in Korea.
chittydog
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Obey_m0rph3us wrote:

I read it was written in red ink, and writing someone's name in red is a taboo in Korea.
The kid moved here when he was 8. He was American.

I'm about to call BS on this rumor as no one seems to be able to offer any proof.
Mekstizzle
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This is getting too funny...so he's a Korean and supposedly an Islamic militant. Why don't they just say he was Kim Jong Il's son and Bin laden was his Uncle. Oh and don't forget he was also a Nazi, a Communist and a Liberal.









He's also from Iran, somehow.
chittydog
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Obey_m0rph3us wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Virginia_Tech_massacre#Korean_cultural_taboo.3F
That's not a wiki article, it's just a forum on their site with regular schmos spreading rumors and their ideas of what happened. Let's find a credible source.
Fen321
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Cougar wrote:

Hundred bucks says it was is online gamer name.
QFE

Considering where he was originally from chances are REALLY high that it may relate to an MMORPG or other similar online gaming names.

Loners love video games, oh and bowling.
Masques
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stef10 wrote:

In the Virginia murdering the killer has written the words Ismail AX on his arm.

Many do not know what this means. I have made a bit of a search on wikipedia and seen that a guy may have a clue to what this mean.

Ismail is an Islamic Prophet.

AX can stand for Alpha Chi Omega women’s fraternity, which does have a chapter at Virginia Tech.

Or this can be it.

Ismail´s father, Ibrahim wanted to sacrifice Ismail for YAHWEH-God-From Torah-with an ax.
Ismail (mentioned in the Torah and Qu'ran) is the son of Abraham (or Ibrahim) by his servant Hagar.

And it was Isaac that Abraham was going to sacrifice.

If you're going to come up with a bullshit conspiracy theory at least get the theology and textual references right.

Last edited by Masques (2007-04-17 15:31:39)

jonsimon
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moby_dick

Ishmail is also famous in moby dick. He could be referencing many things.
UGADawgs
Member
+13|6771|South Carolina, US
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/s … 00,00.html

Right now the authorities aren't saying anything about, but either way I really doubt he was secretly recruited by Al-Qaeda to kill people.

Last edited by UGADawgs (2007-04-17 16:01:18)

CameronPoe
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stef10 wrote:

Commonly the God from Christianity or Judaism.
... and Islam.

stef10 has issues with muslims. Think anti-semitism except for semite think muslim. This isn't the first time he's come up with retarded ideas for thread. The guy can't even grasp the fact that the same God is shared between Islam, Christianity and Judaism ffs (search for previous threads). His mind just won't allow him to come to terms with the fact that he could possibly share a God with Islam, although strangely is content with sharing a God with judaism.

He talks of how religious he is and then, as Masques points out, scores an own goal by not even reading the fucking bible correctly....

/thread

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-04-17 16:40:02)

Sanjaya
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Yes, and yesterday was 4/16/2007, and if you add that up you get 11/9, which is 9/11 in Europe and most of the rest of the world, including Korea, so al-Qaeda must be behind this.

I pretty much own you at conspiracy theories, stef.
usmarine
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huh
Sanjaya
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Also I have a friend named Ismail but he goes by Izzy so is he a part of this too?

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