I'm getting a 19" LCD and I don't know which one. I like the Samsungs, but I read about the LG having 2000:1 contrast. Is the contrast important? Can you give me some advice on the subject? Thx.
I don't trust LG. They lied about one of their panels (the Flatron L2040P) being S-IPS when it wasn't. Liars!
Personally I really like this.
I know you said 19" and it's 20" - but the jump in resolution from 19" to 20" is big, it's a massive difference - not just in size.
There is a 19" version due to be released very soon.
I really would go for 20" if you can though. 1680x1050 is much better than 1440x900.
Personally I really like this.
I know you said 19" and it's 20" - but the jump in resolution from 19" to 20" is big, it's a massive difference - not just in size.
There is a 19" version due to be released very soon.
I really would go for 20" if you can though. 1680x1050 is much better than 1440x900.
Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-04-18 08:30:30)
but its widescreen - widescreen = teh sux0rz - dual 17" ftw!
Widescreen = more desktop space + more fun gaming (after a few tweaks) + more beautiful.$h0ck3r wrote:
but its widescreen - widescreen = teh sux0rz - dual 17" ftw!
Widescreen is the way forward. It's how eyes work, your field of view is wider than it is high and 16:9 and 16:10 screens take advantage of that fact. Widescreens are better.
I've got the LG 1970HR, which is what you're talking about. All I can say is that they measured contrast ratios of more than 2500:1 at a minimum, so they meanwhile sell them as 3000:1.sergeriver wrote:
I'm getting a 19" LCD and I don't know which one. I like the Samsungs, but I read about the LG having 2000:1 contrast. Is the contrast important? Can you give me some advice on the subject? Thx.
It is, however, a little trick that makes you feel a higher contrast (which also affects measures, by the way). Still, it's a great screen. And it's so smooth! I really like the Monitor PSU not being integrated into the panel, so I can have it under my desk and there's just these two wires flat on the desk
See here:
The design is simply awesome.
Last edited by Stormscythe (2007-04-18 08:26:01)
On the contrast side of things Samsung are pretty much the field leader. Their S-PVA technology produces massive contrast ratios.
Samsung 20 inch all the way i too had my concerns about buying a widscreen monitor so i read some reviews and forums and i ended up buying the Samsung widescreen 205bw 1680x1050 and it looks awesome dont regret it one little bit, best purchase i made in a long while and its less than £200
Not the best quality but was taken taken on a phone
Not the best quality but was taken taken on a phone
Last edited by Profitteroles (2007-04-18 09:05:46)
And the 206BW is even better.Profitteroles wrote:
Samsung 20 inch all the way i too had my concerns about buying a widscreen monitor so i read some reviews and forums and i ended up buying the Samsung widescreen 205bw 1680x1050 and it looks awesome dont regret it one little bit, best purchase i made in a long while and its less than £200
Not the best quality but was taken taken on a phone
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/ … C00027.jpg
Whats the difference? when i was buying mine i saw a 204, 205 and a 206 and as faw as i could tell they all had the same spec. is it the newer model?Bertster7 wrote:
And the 206BW is even better.Profitteroles wrote:
Samsung 20 inch all the way i too had my concerns about buying a widscreen monitor so i read some reviews and forums and i ended up buying the Samsung widescreen 205bw 1680x1050 and it looks awesome dont regret it one little bit, best purchase i made in a long while and its less than £200
Not the best quality but was taken taken on a phone
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/ … C00027.jpg
Any contrast ratio in excess of 1000:1 is likely DCR (Dynamic Contrast Ratio).
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor … ifications
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor … ifications
I have the same monitor +1Profitteroles wrote:
Samsung 20 inch all the way i too had my concerns about buying a widscreen monitor so i read some reviews and forums and i ended up buying the Samsung widescreen 205bw 1680x1050 and it looks awesome dont regret it one little bit, best purchase i made in a long while and its less than £200
Not the best quality but was taken taken on a phone
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/ … C00027.jpg
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S-PVA in a gaming panel? Not really...Bertster7 wrote:
On the contrast side of things Samsung are pretty much the field leader. Their S-PVA technology produces massive contrast ratios.
I have a Samsung 930B and a 730B. Great for work and then also for gaming. They are supposed to be Samsung's 'Value' monitor, but i haven't seen anything much better.
As for widescreen, if that is your one monitor, then yes, but if you are planning on dual display, then no.
my setup (from about 6 months ago) http://s93615709.onlinehome.us/DoubleVision.JPG
PS... i have finally bought a monitor stand so i dont have piles of books.
As for widescreen, if that is your one monitor, then yes, but if you are planning on dual display, then no.
my setup (from about 6 months ago) http://s93615709.onlinehome.us/DoubleVision.JPG
PS... i have finally bought a monitor stand so i dont have piles of books.
Why not? What would you want? P-MVA (which is what I have)? As far as I'm concerned S-PVA is the best sort of monitor for gaming. It's certainly not IPS or TN.Stormscythe wrote:
S-PVA in a gaming panel? Not really...Bertster7 wrote:
On the contrast side of things Samsung are pretty much the field leader. Their S-PVA technology produces massive contrast ratios.
No one mentioned gaming anyway, just contrast - which Samsung are very good at doing well. (Although it's Serge, so I'm sure it'll get plenty of gaming use).
They do not have the same spec.Profitteroles wrote:
Whats the difference? when i was buying mine i saw a 204, 205 and a 206 and as faw as i could tell they all had the same spec. is it the newer model?Bertster7 wrote:
And the 206BW is even better.Profitteroles wrote:
Samsung 20 inch all the way i too had my concerns about buying a widscreen monitor so i read some reviews and forums and i ended up buying the Samsung widescreen 205bw 1680x1050 and it looks awesome dont regret it one little bit, best purchase i made in a long while and its less than £200
Not the best quality but was taken taken on a phone
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/ … C00027.jpg
For a start 2ms response instead of 6ms.
Same applies for the LG monitors though. It's all relative.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Any contrast ratio in excess of 1000:1 is likely DCR (Dynamic Contrast Ratio).
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor … ifications
Last edited by Bertster7 (2007-04-18 10:12:33)
TN sucks at everything but gaming. And it's still faster than S-PVA, plus S-PVA is a little more expensive.Bertster7 wrote:
Why not? What would you want? P-MVA (which is what I have)? As far as I'm concerned S-PVA is the best sort of monitor for gaming. It's certainly not IPS or TN.Stormscythe wrote:
S-PVA in a gaming panel? Not really...Bertster7 wrote:
On the contrast side of things Samsung are pretty much the field leader. Their S-PVA technology produces massive contrast ratios.
Still, the LG has been tested over and over and wins against all (comparable) Samsung screens. No doubt, they're great for gaming, but they can not match with this very screen by LG.Bertster7 wrote:
Same applies for the LG monitors though. It's all relative.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Any contrast ratio in excess of 1000:1 is likely DCR (Dynamic Contrast Ratio).
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitor … ifications
Thanks guys. I have my doubts about the wide screens. I mean how do you get used to it when playing games?
Like Bertsrer said, it's mostly for games, so I dunno what to do. I was thinking about the 19" Samsung, but I don't know which model. Now Berst said I should go with the 20" wide screen, and I have my doubts. Can anyone clarify this for me? The wide screens are cheaper here. Thanks.
Like Bertsrer said, it's mostly for games, so I dunno what to do. I was thinking about the 19" Samsung, but I don't know which model. Now Berst said I should go with the 20" wide screen, and I have my doubts. Can anyone clarify this for me? The wide screens are cheaper here. Thanks.
Speed is not an issue when you have 2ms S-PVA screens like the 206BW. Using a TN screen for gaming still sucks, because you only have 6-bit per channel colour - which give you a worse looking image and you get crap viewing angles.Stormscythe wrote:
TN sucks at everything but gaming. And it's still faster than S-PVA, plus S-PVA is a little more expensive.Bertster7 wrote:
Why not? What would you want? P-MVA (which is what I have)? As far as I'm concerned S-PVA is the best sort of monitor for gaming. It's certainly not IPS or TN.Stormscythe wrote:
S-PVA in a gaming panel? Not really...
Oh and Serge - I do a lot of gaming on my 20" widescreen - I love it. It can be a bit awkward with some games, but most run great on it and it gives games a more cinematic feel, which is nice.
That's what I felt when I played with a 19" wide. It's awkward indeed. I suppose it's a matter of getting used to it. I've been told that widescreens are used for Excel working and DVD's edition. I dunno. I'm using a Samsung 740N, which I bought a year ago or something. I would like another Samsung 19" or 20", but the models change the name here, I think. Another thing, why some LCD's say contrast 700:1 (DCR 3000:1), and others just say 700:1 or 800: or 1000:1? I don't get the difference.Bertster7 wrote:
Speed is not an issue when you have 2ms S-PVA screens like the 206BW. Using a TN screen for gaming still sucks, because you only have 6-bit per channel colour - which give you a worse looking image and you get crap viewing angles.Stormscythe wrote:
TN sucks at everything but gaming. And it's still faster than S-PVA, plus S-PVA is a little more expensive.Bertster7 wrote:
Why not? What would you want? P-MVA (which is what I have)? As far as I'm concerned S-PVA is the best sort of monitor for gaming. It's certainly not IPS or TN.
Oh and Serge - I do a lot of gaming on my 20" widescreen - I love it. It can be a bit awkward with some games, but most run great on it and it gives games a more cinematic feel, which is nice.
Last edited by sergeriver (2007-04-18 11:08:48)
I bought this one not so long ago - http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/120830
Its very good so far a big improvement on my 17" normal one.
Really good for the price.
Its very good so far a big improvement on my 17" normal one.
Really good for the price.
The main problem in your argumentation is that the Samsung 206BW is a TN panel.Bertster7 wrote:
Speed is not an issue when you have 2ms S-PVA screens like the 206BW. Using a TN screen for gaming still sucks, because you only have 6-bit per channel colour - which give you a worse looking image and you get crap viewing angles.Stormscythe wrote:
TN sucks at everything but gaming. And it's still faster than S-PVA, plus S-PVA is a little more expensive.Bertster7 wrote:
Why not? What would you want? P-MVA (which is what I have)? As far as I'm concerned S-PVA is the best sort of monitor for gaming. It's certainly not IPS or TN.
Edit: The 6-bit per channel colour is no problem with the LG 1970HR. It mixes the colour from three different colours that are being displayed within one clock (three different types of red, blue and green within one clock).
2nd Edit: @ Sergeriver: Go with whatever you feel comfortable. The LG and the Samsung are about equal. I mainly bought the LG because the Samsung wasn't available back then. Also, you have to make up for yourself if you like wide screens or not. All I can say is that with more pixels (and that's something a widescreen needs) your gpu will always be stressed a little more. If it can handle it, who cares - if not, well...
Last edited by Stormscythe (2007-04-18 12:17:45)
these are not in any particular order or by rank but here are good brands:
Dell
Sceptre ( I have a 20.1")
Samsung
View Sonic
Ben Q
Dell
Sceptre ( I have a 20.1")
Samsung
View Sonic
Ben Q
I have a 204b as well. There's nothing like 1600 x 1200. I've had it for about 1 and a half years and have had no complaints.rdx-fx wrote:
I prefer my Samsung flat panels.
Never had an issue with them.
Currently, I have a Samsung SyncMaster 204B. It's 1600x1200 (normal 4:3 aspect ratio), and cost about $350 - similar to what the 1280x1024's next to it were running at the time.
Wife 'inherited' the 175v Samsung.
I just bought the 205BW.
I'll never buy another 4:3 display.
I'll never buy another 4:3 display.
QFT, though over here Dell's start at $1200 and I've never heard of Sceptre. I'll also add Philips to that list.link52787 wrote:
these are not in any particular order or by rank but here are good brands:
Dell
Sceptre ( I have a 20.1")
Samsung
View Sonic
Ben Q
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