BF2S Forums Why do melees happen so much in Australia?

Seriously though, the more you restrict people’s access to something the more the fringe will want to play with it. Life is inherently risky and the anti-gun lobby usually reeks of freaks that want to live on Fairy Bread lane in Happy-Happy town.... otherwise know as our imagination. You just can't legislate the risk out of life- only educate people and hope the knowledge makes them more empathetic to their fellow human.

Bubbalo wrote:

Uh-huh..................that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard.  Besides which, the Australian anti-gun lobby is just about the whole fucking country.

Correct, the governments (especially in Tasmania and QLD) were very, VERY reluctant to enact the new gun laws (following Port Arthur) - and it was only with massive public pressure that they finally did it.

Last edited by Spark (2007-04-19 04:51:05)

Bubbalo wrote:

Uh-huh..................that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard.  Besides which, the Australian anti-gun lobby is just about the whole fucking country.

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Australia is a predominantly ageing community so I guess suckers like you deserve what you get for being blindsided by simple politicians. It's no suprise you're so offensive - you are where the real problem begins- the ME generation being led by the old and infirm.
Notice I don't need to swear to get my point across.... try it and your next takeaway meal might not come with spit sauce.

GnySgtFrost wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Uh-huh..................that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard.  Besides which, the Australian anti-gun lobby is just about the whole fucking country.

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It was prolly all those big words that got you soo frustrated. Of course I wouldn't expect the likes of you to know what empathetic means or how it might fit into your silly little life... situation normal. You better run along coz I'm sure you're running late for evolution.

Actually, he's probably asleep or at work.

He's a uni student you dick (use of the word is intentionally insulting as you are making an arse of yourself), it's midnight where he is. Give him some time to reply.

As for the swearing, it is very common here in Australia.

We've had tourism campaign adds banned in England before over swearing. What we take as an ordinary word (bloody was the particular example) is taken as coarse language in other places.

By the way, Australia might have an ageing population, but the NT (where I live) is predominantly made up of people under the age of 35. We have, as discussed, reasonably strict gun control. Of our own choice.


Sorry to say it mate, but we LIKE having our freedoms restricted when it comes to guns because oddly enough, I don't have to worry about being shot when I walk through a city at 3am here in Australia. I RARELY hear about shootings on the news... Wow, so I can't go buy a gun and some ammo after just a backround check... My Dad's .308, .22 and air rifle are enough for me. All I used to use them for was shooting pests.

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Moved now to another town... Don't have any animals to protect from snakes and such so the guns don't see much use either.

Last edited by Flecco (2007-04-19 06:40:52)

Oh and the reason you can walk thru teh streets at 3am without being shot is more because there's only 20 million people in Oz... that's also why Sydney isn't a 24hr city. If you could get over the myopia you'd see that you and your uni friend are gunna be funding the baby boomers retirement with massive taxation from your jobs with foreign owned multinationals.

I sure got a laugh outta your ausowns.gif LOL. You forgot to add "Nothing" to the list of assets. Good luck with Qantas.

GnySgtFrost wrote:

Oh and the reason you can walk thru teh streets at 3am without being shot is more because there's only 20 million people in Oz... that's also why Sydney isn't a 24hr city. If you could get over the myopia you'd see that you and your uni friend are gunna be funding the baby boomers retirement with massive taxation from your jobs with foreign owned multinationals.

I sure got a laugh outta your ausowns.gif LOL. You forgot to add "Nothing" to the list of assets. Good luck with Qantas.

And people rail against us for trying to speak about America's gun laws...

Just stop here. You know nothing about Australia's socio-demographic situation, just as we "don't" know anything about America's.

Last edited by Spark (2007-04-19 16:02:21)

GnySgtFrost wrote:

Seriously though, the more you restrict people’s access to something the more the fringe will want to play with it. Life is inherently risky and the anti-gun lobby usually reeks of freaks that want to live on Fairy Bread lane in Happy-Happy town.... otherwise know as our imagination. You just can't legislate the risk out of life- only educate people and hope the knowledge makes them more empathetic to their fellow human.

Ummmm......we have restricted peoples access to weapons andyou might notice there is a lack of black market weapons trading. So you theroy fall sflat on its face there.

GnySgtFrost wrote:

Oh and the reason you can walk thru teh streets at 3am without being shot is more because there's only 20 million people in Oz... that's also why Sydney isn't a 24hr city. If you could get over the myopia you'd see that you and your uni friend are gunna be funding the baby boomers retirement with massive taxation from your jobs with foreign owned multinationals.

I sure got a laugh outta your ausowns.gif LOL. You forgot to add "Nothing" to the list of assets. Good luck with Qantas.

You do like google dont you. why does Sydney being a 24 hour city matter? I would much reather live somewhere where I am safe and people get a chance to rest and relax as opposed to a place that doesnt stop  for rest and you can get shot? Also where are you from?

And thak you, Im sure QANTAS will do well

http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/ … 04917.html
Read that.

Bubbalo wrote:

psychotoxic187 wrote:

Owning a gun is called a hobby. Some collect stamps, and others like to collect guns. It's just an item until the wrong person gets their hands on it.

So then buy replica guns or guns which have been disabled.

psychotoxic187 wrote:

Ban guns, and the bad guys will kill with something else, along with their illegal guns, leaving lawabiding citizens defenseless.

That's dumb logic.  Why not give everyone access to nukes, afterall, if you don't the bad countries will just kill with something else.

Buy replica guns? That's not collecting , if it's fake. Would you ask people to collect fake stamps? On another note, it is no where near being stupid logic. We are not talking about nukes we are talking about guns. People need to realise it's just a piece of steel until a human being uses it. Stop blaming the gun, and blame the idiot people using them in a criminal fashion. It's spot on logic. Just like drugs. Drugs are illegal but they still get them. Ban guns, and only the criminals will get them, leaving lawabiding citizens defenseless.

Flecco wrote:

GnySgtFrost wrote:

I sure didn't ask where your offensive comrade is or when he sleeps/ demand a response -  he'll get back to the post when he's taken his Rittalin and turned a few more burgers.

Obviously we are not mates... as you so eloquently put it, and now you wanna lecture me on semantics!You're definitely outta your league (pardon teh pun) especially trying to suggest that just coz something is 'common' it's acceptable.

NT's gotta better things to worry about than gun laws- like maybe how you treat your indigenous people.

Things are changing on the topic of indigenous people... Slowly yes, but it's changing. Thanks to people such as Noel Pearson of Cape York. The problems with the Aborigines are nationwide. Having grown up with an adopted sister and having been adopted into three aboriginal clans, I am well aware of the issues facing them.

By the way, you really don't know much about the baby boomers situation do you? All the super-annuation stuff that goes on in Australia at the moment isn't just for show... Neither of my parents will have a government pension when they hit retirement. Curious as to how a discussion on swords and gun laws turned to the baby boomers... and why you keep taking us further off-topic...

Swearing is quite acceptable in most communities in certain contexts. Particularly the NT.

As for the 24 hour city thing... Maybe it's safer here in Australia because guns aren't so easy to get? Because they are illegal, criminals find them HARDER to obtain as they have to go through the black market...

Frost, avoid flaming people or making assumptions about them. It's frowned upon in this section of the forums.

The flamming started when Bubbalo offered his profundity("Uh-huh..................that is the dumbest logic I have ever heard.  Besides which, the Australian anti-gun lobby is just about the whole fucking country.") on my very civil initial post. With diplomacy skills like that it's no wonder he cops a spray from someone who understands what a lucky country Oz is. The Sydney being 24hr thing is not a slur, only meant to illustrate a statistical fact that would be better explained by someone like your own Tim Flannery.... he writes books but they don't have pictures so it might get a bit confusing for some.

As for the "Ummmm......we have restricted peoples access to weapons andyou might notice there is a lack of black market weapons trading. So you theroy fall sflat on its face there." I think you should have stopped at Ummmm coz where there are human beings, there's a black market for anything... yes, absolutely anything. Maybe not in your hood but it's naive to think that just coz you don't see it it's not there.

‘Flecco’, your parents super won't keep the roads paved and the general standard of living up when there's no PAYG tax payers to cover the deficit. Why do you really think your Govt is offering money to people for having babies?  ‘Spark’, I'd say by the looks of it I know more about the Ozzy "socio-demographic situation" than you are able to handle. Sounds like you’ll be putting alotta thought into your upcoming Federal election…. hope the footy tipping comp doesn’t suffer.

I’m used to Ozzys that are interested in a debate that consists of more than just their own opinion. Mind you they are educated and don’t derive their identity from another country’s pop culture. Nor do they live in denial.

Peace, love and UNDERSTANDING to you all…. and rain for the Murray farmers.

Our government has been saving money from taxes for a long time, I think it's been in various economic policies for about the last 50 years. I believe that our political parties and future governments will use these to cover the gaps that are approaching. I know the CLP has put the idea before the Liberal Party (my father is a member of the CLP... Heavily involved...).

Oh and Zim, he's right about the black market thing. Trust me on this... I have some strange acquaintances involved in some... Odd things. It is possible to get illegal weapons in Australia. Doesn't take too long either apparently.

Someone needs to make an "Australians in support of Battle Axes" graphic.

GnySgtFrost where exactly are you from?

Also I said nothing about there being no black market, ofcource there is always going to be one but I ment that it is not a large problem as every second criminal does not have a gun.