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Islamic Fundamentalists are funded.  Thanks for hijacking on the first post.

Pug wrote:

There's probably somewhere else to post this, but I didn't want it to buried.

I'm seeing a lot of coverage in the news about the failures related to the Virgina Tech tragedy.  Topics here are mirroring some of those items.

Hindsight is 20/20, and surely outrage is necessary to make changes.

However, it's impossible for full protection against someone who has decided their life and the lives of others are worthless.

If you want to debate a particular root cause, do so.  But from my point of view, no one can fully protect themselves from an individual who has created an irrational justification specifically to kill themselves in a spectacle.

You are right, there's no way to fully protect yourself from this kind of asshole.  You can only minimize the risk.

Superslim wrote:

I'm off to work..so quickly..as I head out the door,  The congressman from VA stated, on Fox news, that if some of the students (being responsible citizens) had been carrying guns, they could have defended themselves.

Correct me if i'm wrong, I didn't see they entire interview, but guns are not allowed on campus?????

That is correct. The statement is an ironic contradiction in itself. They would have been irresponsible for carrying a gun, and yet responsible for keeping the guy from murdering so many people. Smart reporter - but then, you said Fox, right?

-konfusion

but isn't this sort of approach typical for America ? Instead of trying to tackle the real reasons behind this young man's troubles, they suggest arming the other students as well ?

When have more guns in the hands of civilians ever served to make a conflict better ?

Gun control is legislation, thus a choice. You invented it, you can un-invent it. If you want to, that is. But if you don't, you'll have to live with the fact that even "law-abiding" citizens kill from time to time.

But gun control is only part of the problem. Most of the people who commit these horrible acts have either major psychological issues, or are under intense emotional pressure. Most are on the losing end of the food chain, loners, socially isolated. And if the pressue is strong enough, they break down, and snap.
Violence is a common result in such instances. Some will only harm themselves, others will want to get back at the society that supposedly left them behind.

Still, the shooter at VT wasn't born a murderer. Given the right education and integrative society around him, I am sure he would have grown up to be a valuable member of society himself.
Certainly, the outcome is to blame on him, but there were chances to stop this from happening.
Unfortunately, those were missed. As in every community, it shares a little responsibility for the acts of its members.

And btw, as far as I know, he had once been admissioned to a mental hospital or s.th. like that. that should have been put on his record, and under no circumstances should he have been able to purchase two guns.

B.Schuss wrote:

Still, the shooter at VT wasn't born a murderer.

His family doesn't say it outright, but they seem to disagree;

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories … _page.html