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They should add how many of the people interviewed were denied the right to immigrate to the USA.

Not many people outside of New York like the Yankees either.
FatherTed
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Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Miller wrote:


No area is stable anymore it seems... Look, I could say that Iraq isn't stable, which is very wrong.  It is extremely stable compared to other things that have happened. One or two dead soldiers a day isn't much at all. Go back to WWII when thousands died each day. Vietnam had a high casualty rate. Korean war had a relatively high casualty rate.  When it comes to war, this is a very good one.  The only war better than it was the First Gulf War. Quit bitching over how people have died, it happens. This is a very successful campaign to others in the past. But I suppose since it's 2007 any deaths are not worth it.  "The risk and sacrifice of a few are worth the freedoms of many" -Unknown
200 people just died last week in a bombing, and you say that it's stable?!
It is very stable.  9/11 was more unstable than Iraq is at this time.  Like I said, look at other wars from the past. Iraq is a very great success. There is still more to be done, but if people keep moaning about it then it will never get done.
No offence, but i'd call the falkland islands a success, not Iraq
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Miller
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fatherted13 wrote:

Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:


200 people just died last week in a bombing, and you say that it's stable?!
It is very stable.  9/11 was more unstable than Iraq is at this time.  Like I said, look at other wars from the past. Iraq is a very great success. There is still more to be done, but if people keep moaning about it then it will never get done.
No offence, but i'd call the falkland islands a success, not Iraq
None taken, all my point is, look at Iraq as compared to other wars. It is a very good war to be defined in all terms.
ghettoperson
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IMHO, stable implies you can walk around without fear of getting kidnapped, shot or blown up. I don't think Iraq really falls under that catagory. At least as a civvie in WWII the Germans weren't going to shoot at you.
Sanjaya
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Miller wrote:

It is a very good war to be defined in all terms.
The ignorance in this statement is astounding. Why don't you ask one of the many servicemen who have lost limbs? Or the Iraqis that have lost family members? Good war my ass.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7206|United States of America

ghettoperson wrote:

IMHO, stable implies you can walk around without fear of getting kidnapped, shot or blown up. I don't think Iraq really falls under that catagory. At least as a civvie in WWII the Germans weren't going to shoot at you.
Wrong.  People were always fearful of the Germans. Especially if you were in the militia at the time. The Germans were not as ruthless as the japanese but people still had reason to fear.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
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Sanjaya wrote:

Miller wrote:

It is a very good war to be defined in all terms.
The ignorance in this statement is astounding. Why don't you ask one of the many servicemen who have lost limbs? Or the Iraqis that have lost family members? Good war my ass.
Yeah, ask them if they'd do it again. 90% would say yes.
Sanjaya
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Miller wrote:

Sanjaya wrote:

Miller wrote:

It is a very good war to be defined in all terms.
The ignorance in this statement is astounding. Why don't you ask one of the many servicemen who have lost limbs? Or the Iraqis that have lost family members? Good war my ass.
Yeah, ask them if they'd do it again. 90% would say yes.
Source: Miller's ass.
ghettoperson
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Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

IMHO, stable implies you can walk around without fear of getting kidnapped, shot or blown up. I don't think Iraq really falls under that catagory. At least as a civvie in WWII the Germans weren't going to shoot at you.
Wrong.  People were always fearful of the Germans. Especially if you were in the militia at the time. The Germans were not as ruthless as the japanese but people still had reason to fear.
Wrong yourself. People led fairly normal lives in much of occupied Europe. (with the obvious exception of the Jews) Of course they weren't too thrilled to have them there, but that's a very different matter to what it's like to be in Iraq right now.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
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ghettoperson wrote:

Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

IMHO, stable implies you can walk around without fear of getting kidnapped, shot or blown up. I don't think Iraq really falls under that catagory. At least as a civvie in WWII the Germans weren't going to shoot at you.
Wrong.  People were always fearful of the Germans. Especially if you were in the militia at the time. The Germans were not as ruthless as the japanese but people still had reason to fear.
Wrong yourself. People led fairly normal lives in much of occupied Europe. (with the obvious exception of the Jews) Of course they weren't too thrilled to have them there, but that's a very different matter to what it's like to be in Iraq right now.
Alright, I see where you're coming from. You in an aspect are correct. I would say more but I have a personal problem with a friend to ask people about now...
DesertFox-
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From my perspective I have speculated the reason for anti-American sentiment in the past, here's a tidbit of my musings.

Originally, I could understand and had thought it was jealousy from many places. This country is loaded, and the rich people aren't shy about conspicuous consumption either. You've got a whole bunch of media focus on rich people despite the fact that they are terrible people. Reality shows follow around people being jackasses toward each other for no good reason, and they are extremely popular (something that I will never understand). I hate hearing about rich people or how they got that way because they usually do not deserve it. It's also easy if you have limited access to information to stereotype that all Americans are lazy jerks.

You could also argue that America became wealthy and powerful through less-than-squeeky-clean methods. All the way back to the colonization of the continent you heard of Americans gypping the natives out of land or moving them off onto reservations. The Mexican-American War began with our involvement and eyeing yet even more land, this time from Mexico. You could argue about the franchises like McDonalds or American companies that employ sweatshop workers across the world to turn a better profit. You mightn't be wrong in saying that the country has thrived off of it.

I believe that with the role as superpower, the United States does a lot all around the world and cannot make everybody happy. We're between a rock and a hard place. The country has become allied with Israel while also holding relationships with Europe. Nowadays when Israel seeks to expand their territory, Europe condemns the action while we defend it. We've made too many connections where we seem to agree to contradictory doctrines of action, kinda like Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell: Double Agent. The long-standing isolationist policy seems to be no more, and the country is almost expected to intervene and will be ridiculed or labelled hypocritical if we do or do not. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.
FatherTed
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+3,936|6950|so randum

DesertFox423 wrote:

From my perspective I have speculated the reason for anti-American sentiment in the past, here's a tidbit of my musings.

Originally, I could understand and had thought it was jealousy from many places. This country is loaded, and the rich people aren't shy about conspicuous consumption either. You've got a whole bunch of media focus on rich people despite the fact that they are terrible people. Reality shows follow around people being jackasses toward each other for no good reason, and they are extremely popular (something that I will never understand). I hate hearing about rich people or how they got that way because they usually do not deserve it. It's also easy if you have limited access to information to stereotype that all Americans are lazy jerks.

You could also argue that America became wealthy and powerful through less-than-squeeky-clean methods. All the way back to the colonization of the continent you heard of Americans gypping the natives out of land or moving them off onto reservations. The Mexican-American War began with our involvement and eyeing yet even more land, this time from Mexico. You could argue about the franchises like McDonalds or American companies that employ sweatshop workers across the world to turn a better profit. You mightn't be wrong in saying that the country has thrived off of it.

I believe that with the role as superpower, the United States does a lot all around the world and cannot make everybody happy. We're between a rock and a hard place. The country has become allied with Israel while also holding relationships with Europe. Nowadays when Israel seeks to expand their territory, Europe condemns the action while we defend it. We've made too many connections where we seem to agree to contradictory doctrines of action, kinda like Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell: Double Agent. The long-standing isolationist policy seems to be no more, and the country is almost expected to intervene and will be ridiculed or labelled hypocritical if we do or do not. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.
Possibly the most sensible, well viewpointed statement ive seen in this entire thread. Nice one
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Ottomania
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In Turkey lots of people dont like usa because of supporting jews.

But I think this is the biggest reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_event
usmarine
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Ottomania wrote:

In Turkey lots of people dont like usa because of supporting jews.

But I think this is the biggest reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_event
It was war ffs.
Sanjaya
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Ottomania wrote:

In Turkey lots of people dont like usa because of supporting jews.

But I think this is the biggest reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_event
Because the Kurds are almost as bad as Armenians.
Ottomania
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

In Turkey lots of people dont like usa because of supporting jews.

But I think this is the biggest reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_event
It was war ffs.
no. we arent in a war against you. we supported america for years then this event raised anger suddenly against america.
GunSlinger OIF II
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so weve pretty much established that the world hates jews.
usmarine
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Ottomania wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

In Turkey lots of people dont like usa because of supporting jews.

But I think this is the biggest reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_event
It was war ffs.
no. we arent in a war against you. we supported america for years then this event raised anger suddenly against america.
Yes I know....these things happen in a war.  It was a mistake, nobody was killed, move on.
Ottomania
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


It was war ffs.
no. we arent in a war against you. we supported america for years then this event raised anger suddenly against america.
Yes I know....these things happen in a war.  It was a mistake, nobody was killed, move on.
its easy to say "move on". these soldiers have a honor right? and that is really important for us.
usmarine
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Ottomania wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Ottomania wrote:


no. we arent in a war against you. we supported america for years then this event raised anger suddenly against america.
Yes I know....these things happen in a war.  It was a mistake, nobody was killed, move on.
its easy to say "move on". these soldiers have a honor right? and that is really important for us.
What do you want?  Money?  Blood?  Beer?  What?
Ottomania
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I dont want something. I said thats normal to show reaction against that "accident".
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
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It comes from the many years of manipulating politics,military actions and covert-ops worldwide. Americans are nice and friendly from what I know....the onces I´ve met have been very kind.

Sadly the goals of the common american aren´t the same as their leaders.

USA has done very much internationaly, but when breaking it down....it seems they have done the same amount of harm as they done good.
derstralle
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+29|6665

max wrote:

From a German perspective (I usually live in Germany with my parents when I'm not at university in Switzerland):
Germans see America as a very democratic country that treats everyone in the country equally. It is also viewed as a partially Jewish country. Furthermore America has a thriving economy and is based on core libertarian values with low social security.

Germans hate all that.
They are not democratic; they always want a powerful leader to tell them whats right (e.g. when the 2 major parties formed a coalition everyone was happy that now things could change for the better without the annoying problem of the parliament slowing the government down).
Germans don't believe in equality and think deep down that they are the superior race. There is still lots of antisemitism here.
Germany has a protected economy and view America as a huge evil cooperation that wants to take over the world.
Thanks for spreading prejudices. You are so far off that its funny. The sad thing is that some people will actually believe you.
RicardoBlanco
The English
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Miller wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Miller wrote:


No area is stable anymore it seems... Look, I could say that Iraq isn't stable, which is very wrong.  It is extremely stable compared to other things that have happened. One or two dead soldiers a day isn't much at all. Go back to WWII when thousands died each day. Vietnam had a high casualty rate. Korean war had a relatively high casualty rate.  When it comes to war, this is a very good one.  The only war better than it was the First Gulf War. Quit bitching over how people have died, it happens. This is a very successful campaign to others in the past. But I suppose since it's 2007 any deaths are not worth it.  "The risk and sacrifice of a few are worth the freedoms of many" -Unknown
200 people just died last week in a bombing, and you say that it's stable?!
It is very stable.  9/11 was more unstable than Iraq is at this time.  Like I said, look at other wars from the past. Iraq is a very great success. There is still more to be done, but if people keep moaning about it then it will never get done.
Are you being serious? Exactly what planet have you been on or the last four years?
fadedsteve
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+266|6941|Menlo Park, CA

m3thod wrote:

ATG wrote:

m3thod wrote:

This bitch captures what most people think,

Most people bear no animosity towards the Americans and care little what they do on their own soil. They do, however, bitterly resent the ultra-violent foreign policy of the US government. With its love for wars of aggression, the principal exports of the US are suffering, death and destruction. And of course its blind support to Israel in the enslavement of the Palestinian people is monstrous and unforgiveable.

Annie McStravick, Paris
Would you like a tissue? Your frothing at the mouth and the drool is splattering everywhere.

Do you have any idea how much food, medicine and goods and services the United States exports every year?
Get over yourself.  I couldn't care less about you and your beloved people.

keep your fucking medicine and your godforsaken bombs within your own borders and shove your foreign policy.
What a typical irrational, liberal, jealous, American hating, waco response. . . .I swear the sterotype is RIGHT ON!!

How about you shove your irresponsible, leftist, defeatist, liberal agenda!! Cause frankly NO ONE GIVES A SHIT!

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