Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

Here is a Vtech story you probably haven't heard about..


BAGHDAD - Students in Baghdad, where universities have been hard hit by violence, said Monday they were saddened by last week's massacre at Virginia Tech and hung up a banner to express their solidarity with "our brothers in humanity and in pursuing knowledge."

"We want to let the whole world know that we do not support terrorism anywhere," said Yassir Nazar, head of the student union at Baghdad Technology University, who organized the hanging of the banner near the campus gate.

It reads, "We, the students of Technology University, denounce the attack at Virginia Tech. We extend our condolences to the families of the victims who faced a situation as bad as
Iraq's universities do. The sanctity of campuses must be protected around the world."

"We have lost many friends and professors," said Nazar. "But in spite of our wounds, we want to show our solidarity with the students of Virginia Tech who are our brothers in humanity and in pursuing knowledge."

In Baghdad and other Iraqi cities, scores of students have been killed and their campuses targeted by Iraqi insurgents who often regard universities as bastions of Western thought and political activities they oppose.

More than 200 university professors have been killed in the past few years, and thousands have fled the country to teach at universities abroad, said Basil al-Khateeb, spokesman for the Iraqi ministry of higher education.

On Feb. 25, a female suicide bomber triggered a ball bearing-packed charge, killing at least 41 people at a mostly Shiite college whose main gate was left littered with blood-soaked student notebooks and papers amid the bodies.

On Jan. 16, two car bombs exploded as students from Mustansiriyah University lined up for rides home, killing at least 70 people and wounding at least 133.

Baghdad Technology University, which is an annex of Mustansiriyah University, can seem more like a war zone than a college campus, despite its sports fields, modern buildings and a small garden with wooden benches.

Concrete barriers block nearby streets to keep out suicide car bombers. Students from Iraq's complex mix of Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds and Christians walk peacefully across the campus, but the sound of ambulance and police sirens, military convoys driving past and U.S. helicopters flying overhead is nearly constant.

All students are searched before entering the campus and cell phones — which insurgents sometimes use to set off hidden bombs — are banned. Some students fall behind in their studies or miss exams because attacks or fighting prevent them from reaching campus. Baghdad's frequent power outages also can make it difficult for them to study at home at night.

Although many Baghdad Technology University students regard Americans as much safer and luckier than they are, they were saddened by the tragedy at Virginia Tech, in which 32 people were gunned down by student Seung-Hui Cho.

"We denounce the shooting in Virginia Tech because it targeted students of knowledge," said Hassan Abdul-Karim, a junior engineering major who said he has lost two friends to deadly insurgent attacks in his neighborhood of Baghdad. "Al-Qaida in Iraq does the same thing here in an effort to make ignorance prevail so its ideology can win."

Zahra Hussein, a fourth-year engineering student, said she was shocked by the Virginia Tech killings in a country that is so much more peaceful and secure than Iraq. "For us, such attacks have become normal, even when they target students," she said.

Mohammed Akram, a third-year chemical engineering student, said Iraq has seen many examples of recluses who have become suicide attackers. "But we are determined to complete our studies and do all we can for our country," he said, as several friends standing around him on the campus nodded their heads in agreement.

Source AP
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sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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So, are there peaceful and moderate Muslims after all?  Isn't it a myth?  This must be propaganda from AP.  Those bastards in the media.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

sergeriver wrote:

So, are there peaceful and moderate Muslims after all?  Isn't it a myth?  This must be propaganda from AP.  Those bastards in the media.
It goes hand in hand with this story http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1147988 .
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sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7207|Argentina

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

So, are there peaceful and moderate Muslims after all?  Isn't it a myth?  This must be propaganda from AP.  Those bastards in the media.
It goes hand in hand with this story http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1147988 .
Wait. Lowing tried to prove that most Muslims were extremists.  Are you telling me this is not true?  Man, I'm speechless.  I don't know what to say.  Next thing we'll hear is that Israel is oppressing Palestinians.
thtthht
maximum bullshit
+50|6780|teh alien spaceshit
Many Muslims are friendly. It's just the ones that are extremists we should watch out for.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7031|SE London

thtthht wrote:

Many Muslims are friendly. It's just the ones that are extremists we should watch out for.
Which is why we should not alienate the moderate Muslim majority. That's just likely to make that majority smaller.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6940|Menlo Park, CA
Through all the suffering that those students in Iraq are going through, thats an enormous tribute!

Those students have seen so much more shit than any student at Virginia Tech could fathom, and for them to issue a statement like that is incredible.

Those students in Iraq have a lot of class to say the least!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7051|132 and Bush

fadedsteve wrote:

Through all the suffering that those students in Iraq are going through, thats an enormous tribute!

Those students have seen so much more shit than any student at Virginia Tech could fathom, and for them to issue a statement like that is incredible.

Those students in Iraq have a lot of class to say the least!
I guess that answers the question of "where are the modern Muslims?".
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howler_27
Member
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Definately a story of hope for the world in such a tragic week.
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6906|The edge of sanity
Its good that something like this is reported. It shows that not all muslism are hate mongers like the media would have you believe. If brotherhood can be reached by college students why not other peoples? My guess would be stupidity and bigotry.
David.P
Banned
+649|6724

sergeriver wrote:

So, are there peaceful and moderate Muslims after all?  Isn't it a myth?  This must be propaganda from AP.  Those bastards in the media.
There are. They are not influenced by extremism and idealogy unlike their brethren, These are the people i want in this world whether Judeo-Christian,  Atheist, or Muslim These are people that will help the world not destroy it.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6979|Global Command
I'm on record here as expressing my brotherly love for the citizens of Iraq and state unequivicaly that I supported this war not for American gain but for Iraqi freedom.

Especially when I read words like this, it makes me be better able to cope with this.

RIP my brothers.

Last edited by ATG (2007-04-23 18:23:40)

Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7142|Calgary

sergeriver wrote:

So, are there peaceful and moderate Muslims after all?  Isn't it a myth?  This must be propaganda from AP.  Those bastards in the media.
No, its real, I have a lot of friend from both Iraq and Iran. They want peace just as much as you and me. All they want is too raise their families and enjoy life like we do.
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7142|Calgary

ATG wrote:

I'm on record here as expressing my brotherly love for the citizens of Iraq and state unequivicaly that I supported this war not for American gain but for Iraqi freedom.

Especially when I read words like this, it makes me be better able to cope with this.

RIP my brothers.
It is true my friend.

My heart breaks to all those that die while fighting for freedom, both American and Iraqi

Last edited by Superslim (2007-04-23 18:49:00)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|7101|USA

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

So, are there peaceful and moderate Muslims after all?  Isn't it a myth?  This must be propaganda from AP.  Those bastards in the media.
It goes hand in hand with this story http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1147988 .
Wait. Lowing tried to prove that most Muslims were extremists.  Are you telling me this is not true?  Man, I'm speechless.  I don't know what to say.  Next thing we'll hear is that Israel is oppressing Palestinians.
Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.

Last edited by lowing (2007-04-23 18:58:05)

Scorpion0x17
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lowing wrote:

Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.
Were they "pursuing knowledge"?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7101|USA

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.
Were they "pursuing knowledge"?
Nope, just risking their lives or giving them up, so the Iraqi's could.

I think that was pretty heartless thing to say by the way.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6918

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It goes hand in hand with this story http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1147988 .
Wait. Lowing tried to prove that most Muslims were extremists.  Are you telling me this is not true?  Man, I'm speechless.  I don't know what to say.  Next thing we'll hear is that Israel is oppressing Palestinians.
Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.
So the moderate peace-loving Iraqi college hippies kill US soldiers? I think you should have read the whole thread first, and then before you make your comment think about theirs.
djphetal
Go Ducks.
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Glad to see this side portrayed because the vast majority of the world's Muslims are pacifistic and civilized. Unfortunately, it's that tiny percent of extremists that get the news coverage.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7216|Cambridge (UK)

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.
Were they "pursuing knowledge"?
Nope, just risking their lives or giving them up, so the Iraqi's could.

I think that was pretty heartless thing to say by the way.
Students in Baghdad, where universities have been hard hit by violence, said Monday they were saddened by last week's massacre at Virginia Tech and hung up a banner to express their solidarity with "our brothers in humanity and in pursuing knowledge."
i.e. not a banner to express their sorrow for the soldiers risking/giving up their lives.

Why should everything that happens in Iraq be about the war?

Maybe these students are trying to get on with leading a normal life.

Is that not what the troops are meant to be trying to achieve?

Is it not a little churlish to criticise them for this?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7011

lowing wrote:

Nope, just risking their lives or giving them up, so the Iraqi's could.
Oh please, the invasion of Iraq was never about the Iraqis.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Let's hope their college doesn't get hit by a slew of suicide bombers because of that statement.
EVieira
Member
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lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It goes hand in hand with this story http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 8#p1147988 .
Wait. Lowing tried to prove that most Muslims were extremists.  Are you telling me this is not true?  Man, I'm speechless.  I don't know what to say.  Next thing we'll hear is that Israel is oppressing Palestinians.
Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.
Those people lost a whole lot more than your 3000 soldiers. Its for exactly those kind of Iraqui people that those soldiers died for, no matter what the true political/strategic purposes of the war were. If you showed them the proper respect, you would be repecting your own fallen soldiers.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
lowing
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doctastrangelove1964 wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Wait. Lowing tried to prove that most Muslims were extremists.  Are you telling me this is not true?  Man, I'm speechless.  I don't know what to say.  Next thing we'll hear is that Israel is oppressing Palestinians.
Where is the banner expressing sorrow for the 9 soldiers that were just blown up??

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

or for that matter, the other 3000 troops that died for them.
So the moderate peace-loving Iraqi college hippies kill US soldiers? I think you should have read the whole thread first, and then before you make your comment think about theirs.
Never said they killed anyone. I said how anbout showing some acknowledgement toward the people who didn't just get killed, but GOT killed for them.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7101|USA

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


Were they "pursuing knowledge"?
Nope, just risking their lives or giving them up, so the Iraqi's could.

I think that was pretty heartless thing to say by the way.
Students in Baghdad, where universities have been hard hit by violence, said Monday they were saddened by last week's massacre at Virginia Tech and hung up a banner to express their solidarity with "our brothers in humanity and in pursuing knowledge."
i.e. not a banner to express their sorrow for the soldiers risking/giving up their lives.

Why should everything that happens in Iraq be about the war?

Maybe these students are trying to get on with leading a normal life.

Is that not what the troops are meant to be trying to achieve?

Is it not a little churlish to criticise them for this?
I didn't critise them for this, I asked where is the rest of the acknowledgement or recognition that they should be showing.

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