Ok, I have a 7600 right now. Will it be ok if I change it to a x1950?
why wouldnt it be ok just uninstall nvidia driver it should be ok
OMG...
R U CRAZY?
one step forward two steps back...
which way r u going?
R U CRAZY?
one step forward two steps back...
which way r u going?
?????? Isn't a x1950 better than 7600?HeavyMetalDave wrote:
OMG...
R U CRAZY?
one step forward two steps back...
which way r u going?
X1950 is better then 7600
but not worth the upgrade money.....
but not worth the upgrade money.....
X1950GT or X1950XT or X1950XTX?? WHICH ONE??
I have used all of them, currently have the XTX in my home machine but they are all quite nice.
Why not just spend a FEW like honestly a FEW dollars more and grab an 8600GT, some may say it is not any better than a 7600GT, and I somewhat agree for right now. When taken into context although the 8600GT may not be much faster than the current 7600GT it IS a native DX10 part and includes HDR rendering.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=1
just a thought
AG
I have used all of them, currently have the XTX in my home machine but they are all quite nice.
Why not just spend a FEW like honestly a FEW dollars more and grab an 8600GT, some may say it is not any better than a 7600GT, and I somewhat agree for right now. When taken into context although the 8600GT may not be much faster than the current 7600GT it IS a native DX10 part and includes HDR rendering.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=1
just a thought
AG
If you get one, don't get a Saphhire x1950 PRO.
Get a 8800GTS 320mb version instead.
Agreedcyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Get a 8800GTS 320mb version instead.
8600's are shit. Don't bother. DX10 is not going to make a massive difference to games. And anyway, why would you buy a new more expensive card that consistently performs worse than your current card?agwood wrote:
X1950GT or X1950XT or X1950XTX?? WHICH ONE??
I have used all of them, currently have the XTX in my home machine but they are all quite nice.
Why not just spend a FEW like honestly a FEW dollars more and grab an 8600GT, some may say it is not any better than a 7600GT, and I somewhat agree for right now. When taken into context although the 8600GT may not be much faster than the current 7600GT it IS a native DX10 part and includes HDR rendering.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=1
just a thought
AG
Agreed.Bell wrote:
Agreedcyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Get a 8800GTS 320mb version instead.
Why spend a lot of money on a DX9 card now? If you want ATI, wait for their DX10 cards, otherwise get an 8800.
Thats what I did - now I can't play any games at all...wish I had stayed Nvidia or did better research :Scospengle wrote:
If you get one, don't get a Saphhire x1950 PRO.
EXPLAIN PLEASEHeRbY wrote:
Thats what I did - now I can't play any games at all...wish I had stayed Nvidia or did better research :Scospengle wrote:
If you get one, don't get a Saphhire x1950 PRO.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
to run all high with fraps at 70ps .. pwntghettoperson wrote:
8600's are shit. Don't bother. DX10 is not going to make a massive difference to games. And anyway, why would you buy a new more expensive card that consistently performs worse than your current card?agwood wrote:
X1950GT or X1950XT or X1950XTX?? WHICH ONE??
I have used all of them, currently have the XTX in my home machine but they are all quite nice.
Why not just spend a FEW like honestly a FEW dollars more and grab an 8600GT, some may say it is not any better than a 7600GT, and I somewhat agree for right now. When taken into context although the 8600GT may not be much faster than the current 7600GT it IS a native DX10 part and includes HDR rendering.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=1
just a thought
AG
edit: sorry you said 8600, I though you said 8800
Last edited by jsnipy (2007-05-01 08:39:04)
just buy an 7900 GT
OMG..... dude stick with Nvidia - seriously. Nvidia is so much better than ATI in almost all regards.....
SLi is easier with Nvidia. Match the same Nvidia video card and voila - SLi. With ATI, not only does the card have to be the same, but BOTH have to be Crossfire capable (and not every card is Crossfire capable).
Nvidia drivers are much MUCH easier to install and use than the catylst. Catylst drivers can be a pain in the arse to use.
ATI have yet (to my knowledge, and I could be wrong) release DX10 cards.
If you want a new video card I would suggest the Nvidia 8x series (8600GT, 8800GTS, 8800GTX)
SLi is easier with Nvidia. Match the same Nvidia video card and voila - SLi. With ATI, not only does the card have to be the same, but BOTH have to be Crossfire capable (and not every card is Crossfire capable).
Nvidia drivers are much MUCH easier to install and use than the catylst. Catylst drivers can be a pain in the arse to use.
ATI have yet (to my knowledge, and I could be wrong) release DX10 cards.
If you want a new video card I would suggest the Nvidia 8x series (8600GT, 8800GTS, 8800GTX)
huh .. double click ... yes yes .. next ... whats the difference (rhetorical)-101-InvaderZim wrote:
OMG..... dude stick with Nvidia - seriously. Nvidia is so much better than ATI in almost all regards.....
SLi is easier with Nvidia. Match the same Nvidia video card and voila - SLi. With ATI, not only does the card have to be the same, but BOTH have to be Crossfire capable (and not every card is Crossfire capable).
Nvidia drivers are much MUCH easier to install and use than the catylst. Catylst drivers can be a pain in the arse to use.
ATI have yet (to my knowledge, and I could be wrong) release DX10 cards.
If you want a new video card I would suggest the Nvidia 8x series (8600GT, 8800GTS, 8800GTX)
Last edited by jsnipy (2007-05-01 15:18:00)
Correct, for now. They're days away from releasing their 2900XT's and that will smoke the 8800GTX for the same price. This'll cause a price drop for nVidia, which may trigger a chain reaction for ATI's DX9 cards.-101-InvaderZim wrote:
ATI have yet (to my knowledge, and I could be wrong) release DX10 cards.
My point: Wait a few weeks before buying a new card. When ATI blows away nVidia with its DX10 cards, prices will drop.
Can't really recommend buying a card now, especially Radeon. And just my personal opinion: stick with nVidia, saves you tons of headache.
I would grab a 8800 GTS and depending on the resolution used, 320 or 640 model. You can't go much wrong. Even though 2900XT is faster, 320 model has really good price atm.
I would grab a 8800 GTS and depending on the resolution used, 320 or 640 model. You can't go much wrong. Even though 2900XT is faster, 320 model has really good price atm.
I got an x1900xtx a few months ago and I'm really not overly thrilled with it, and I paid half price for it too. I can't really see the 2900 doing that much better than the 8800, if it beats it at all that much... I would bet that nvidia would drop the price on the 8800 while ATI would have a high price tag on theirs.
You're extremely biased and incorrect dude.-101-InvaderZim wrote:
OMG..... dude stick with Nvidia - seriously. Nvidia is so much better than ATI in almost all regards.....
SLi is easier with Nvidia. Match the same Nvidia video card and voila - SLi. With ATI, not only does the card have to be the same, but BOTH have to be Crossfire capable (and not every card is Crossfire capable).
Nvidia drivers are much MUCH easier to install and use than the catylst. Catylst drivers can be a pain in the arse to use.
ATI have yet (to my knowledge, and I could be wrong) release DX10 cards.
If you want a new video card I would suggest the Nvidia 8x series (8600GT, 8800GTS, 8800GTX)
While I do admit nVidia does have better drivers than ATi, they aren't easier to install... it takes no effort to install ATi drivers.
Also with Crossfire, you can match any two cards, they don't have to be the same. You could CF an X1950XTX with an X800 if you wanted to.
ATi is clearly better than nVidia. Just look at the benchmarks...
The only nVidia cards that beat ATi's best, at the moment, is the 7900/7950GX2 and the 8800GTX. The 8800GTS is slightly faster than the X1950XTX.
And the only reason the 7900/7950GX2 beats the X1950XTX is because it's two cards in one. Put two X1950XTX together and it will beat the 8800GTX.
the 2900XT wont smoke the GTX, at current its just ahead of it as far as im aware. the XTX will "smoke" the GTX but then the ultra and G90 series will be fast approaching after the XTX's release.
Gibbo over at OCuk has a 2900XT sent by radeon btw.
ATI drivers are very good., but then ive never had a problem with nvidia's either.
to say a radeon or geforce are better is just wrong. you have to look at many factors, power consumption, price/power, size etc. and its usually only true for at the most a few months.
btw, they have put X1900's together. it didnt even "smoke" a 640mb GTS. the heat was incredible (had to underclock the cores), and the thing was huge.
Gibbo over at OCuk has a 2900XT sent by radeon btw.
ATI drivers are very good., but then ive never had a problem with nvidia's either.
to say a radeon or geforce are better is just wrong. you have to look at many factors, power consumption, price/power, size etc. and its usually only true for at the most a few months.
btw, they have put X1900's together. it didnt even "smoke" a 640mb GTS. the heat was incredible (had to underclock the cores), and the thing was huge.
Last edited by Toxicseagull (2007-05-01 18:37:56)
I LOL when people say that "it is harder to install ATI drivers" come on dude, ITS F*CKING WINDOWS!!!. Just ok, ok and reboot and you are done. I will paste here some of the Linux commands and configurations to install drivers, that my friend isn't that hard also:
How to install Graphics Driver (NVIDIA)
sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
sudo nvidia-xconfig
sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
* and replacing "nv" with "nvidia"
* Read #How to restart GNOME without rebooting computer
* Enable XvMC by creating the nVidia XvMC configuration file
sudo gedit /etc/X11/XvMCConfig
* Insert the following line into the new configuration file, to tell the players the name of the nVidia XvMC shared library:
libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1
* To use XvMC to accelerate video playback, use the following flags.
xine -V xxmc filename.ts
mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc filename.ts
So quit crying because installing drivers under windows is just clicks away.
How to install Graphics Driver (NVIDIA)
sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
sudo nvidia-xconfig
sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
* and replacing "nv" with "nvidia"
* Read #How to restart GNOME without rebooting computer
* Enable XvMC by creating the nVidia XvMC configuration file
sudo gedit /etc/X11/XvMCConfig
* Insert the following line into the new configuration file, to tell the players the name of the nVidia XvMC shared library:
libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1
* To use XvMC to accelerate video playback, use the following flags.
xine -V xxmc filename.ts
mplayer -vo xvmc -vc ffmpeg12mc filename.ts
So quit crying because installing drivers under windows is just clicks away.
HHmm... I don't really think "shit" is the correct way to describe the 8600GT, while it may not be UBER fast.. it surely isn't SHIT, I have some experience with them and they are a pretty darn nice card. besides a lot of folks don't really have the budget to buy a high end video card like some of us.ghettoperson wrote:
8600's are shit. Don't bother. DX10 is not going to make a massive difference to games. And anyway, why would you buy a new more expensive card that consistently performs worse than your current card?agwood wrote:
X1950GT or X1950XT or X1950XTX?? WHICH ONE??
I have used all of them, currently have the XTX in my home machine but they are all quite nice.
Why not just spend a FEW like honestly a FEW dollars more and grab an 8600GT, some may say it is not any better than a 7600GT, and I somewhat agree for right now. When taken into context although the 8600GT may not be much faster than the current 7600GT it IS a native DX10 part and includes HDR rendering.
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2975&p=1
just a thought
AG
Saying that DX10 is not going to make a massive difference in gaming is a pretty un-informed opinion bro, I guess you have not seen in person the huge differences DX10 can make, I have and it can make some amazing differences when implemented properly...take Conan Hyborian for instance.
look at some of these DX10 videos
http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/con … ected=1022
DX10 does away with the fixed function pipeline for pixel and vertex shaders as these are now programmable unlike before. This alleviates bottlenecks in vertex heavy, or pixel heavy parts of games.
DX10 has also taken many steps to reduce overhead on the CPU by offloading tasks like integer and bitwise instructions onto the GPU. You can pretty much count on the fact that the first generation of DX10 capable titles will be not so amazing, but later on once developers are able to fully utilize it, the difference will be pretty awesome.
To be honest we have yet to see ANY benchmarks of either Nvidia or ATI hardware while using their DX10 rendering pipeline, all of the benchmarks we have seen yet are all of highly optimized DX9 engines. The focus on which rendering path the hardware manufactures chose to optimize has yet to be determined, and I honestly think that we might all be very surprised when we see how true DX10 software performs on each platform depending on how he rendering paths have been prioritized.
AG
Last edited by agwood (2007-05-01 21:28:42)
Ok, that card is three generations old.Toxicseagull wrote:
btw, they have put X1900's together. it didnt even "smoke" a 640mb GTS. the heat was incredible (had to underclock the cores), and the thing was huge.
Look at the X1950XTX in Crossfire, it beats everything except the 8800GTX SLi (as to be expected).
http://www.bioxion-tech.com/index.php?showtopic=223