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people play karkand cuz theyre noobs that havent bought SF and realized that theres now like 6 more good urban maps.

seriously though, karkand and sharqi are probably the best urban combat maps in regular bf2, and as such are perfect for medic whores to get points reviving, tank whores to get points beating up on infantry uncontested.  i began to hate them though after playing them a lot and all the bunny hopping that seemed to be prevelant on most of those servers.

i dont wanna be rude but your a fool if you think a couple people not buying SF is going to force EA to fix bugs any faster.  just buy it and have fun already instead of brooding over it.

btw, EA doesnt have anything to do with fixing hacks like that one, im thinking its PB's responsibility.

but i hate to break it to ya, but any anti-hack thing that can be coded, can be coded around.  its the never-ending game of catch-up that is punkbuster.

Last edited by YitEarp (2005-12-10 13:15:51)

ryan_14 wrote:

no one cares

Thanks for your input which brought nothing intelligent to the discussion.  This thread is valid in the sense that its not a flame or dis in anyway.  I mearly wonder things about patterns I see and I like input that might help me understand.  Excuse the cliche - Assholes ar like opinions, everyone has one.  I like to hear opinions or even straight answers about this stuff.  Everyone has different reasons for doing what they do, I was interested.  Thats all.

S=Unit92 wrote:

Karkand is by far the most balanced map in regular BF2, which is why I play it the most.

Right on.  Yes i agree with that statement.  I would also state that all maps are balanced as long as the teams are balanced in numbers and skill level, but we all know those are rare instances.



I bought SF because I can still do very well in spite of any hackers exploits.  EA should do more to thwart it but I would rather have my fun then protest a problem that proves tough to beat.  It used to bother me a lot but then I just stuck to my game and I barely notice when a hacker gets the better of me.  Most people that use such things don't have the skill level to be good at being a hacker.  I remember in CS if an aimbotter got in the game it was over for everyone - complete domination.  BF2 has so many ways to die that it really doesnt matter so much if they gots hacks.  Even wall hacks only give them your position as a good commander is always doing with UAV, scans and spotting.  They still have to have the skill to actually gun you down.  A good pair of headphones can do the same thing as a wallhack, sounds give away position.  So listen good.

I play alot of Karkand. Not nearly as much as Wake, but still. Why? Because it's on every single server x alot, whereas other maps are neglected by serverlists.

Karkand is a well balanced map, your success depends on your team. Simple enough. I've found myself in a LAV, not being able to get into the city because of excellent defense by MEC AT dudes. Other times I've whored/raped infantry in disarray, beyond the brink of insanity.

It's a very varying map, with alot of possibilities.

Okay back to the Karkand thing, I play Karkand alot and WAke. At first I equalled them out, but the firefight is a blast #1 and that first control point whether USA or MEC is intense. Same with WAKE. People that play Kark/Mash/Wake/Sharq have a tactic to take a major point out that makes the Commander useless (well for other than USA sometimes). Another is many people notice that jets are superior and play city maps (besides Wake). I play for the intense first flag on Karkand/Wake. To me the rest of the maps are driving/hoofing around for awile, I do like the other maps but prefer City Maps because of the intensity.  To me, it's just preference.

The Reason I like Karkland and play it a lot is because  it is not a Vehicle dependent map.
Even alone you can do well. Lots of choke points make mines Effective. Lots of armor ambush spots.
      In a lot of other BF 2 maps if you don't have a vehicle you cant really fight. I like playing,
not traveling around and site seeing. If Squads don't form and spawn with you its a waste of time and you can spend a lot of the game in transit. 

       I  also dislike Jet Maps. For some reason I get a low frame rate in a Jet occasionally and it will crash. I wont fly because I wont risk depriving my team of Air cover even if temporarily. Jets dominate the game if you don't fly you have a severely limited role. I flew in BF 42 with Excellent results and in  BFV with them Same. Once in BFV I had 32 kills with Napalm, never lost the Jet, and not one TK. In 42 I played several entire games in one plane
" Though I thought that Spinning Helios flag caps technique was a hack and wouldn't do it "

I consider myself a poor to mediocre player in BF2 at best and try and do mostly support roles Repair spot etc. I used to love to mortar in BFV. I miss that in BF 2 I really love to snipe.

At the End of games people would say Nice work in F4 or Good mortar control.

I play Karkand because you don't really need some evil ass attack helicopter, or circling flight of death jetfighter bombing the shit out of your carrier and destroy anyone attempting to get on a blackhawk to go to the flags... with Karkand, you can still stand a chance with practically anything and it has that wicked urbanized warfare feel. Like something that would have happened in Somalia, or Baghdad. Mashtuur City is another good map, but Karkand by far is a more warfare-esque battleground. Mobile division-style warfare with a zing of infantry insurgency. Oh yeah. Karkand's definitely got style but can be a love or hate situation depending on the servers running it.

Personally. I'd like to see a 32 player Karkand map with in-game filters to the server that DISALLOWS the use of tanks & APCs. Jeeps are fine, but I'd like to see a few Karkand map servers strictly without the use of any armor. That would be awesome. Would focus a whole lot more attention to squad-based warfare.

S=Unit92 wrote:

Actually many of us who haven't bought SF are doing so because we're not going to support EA until they fix outstanding bugs and hacks (such as the ones found here: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx regular BF2.

Karkand is by far the most balanced map in regular BF2, which is why I play it the most.

AHHHHHHHHHHH can ppl stop posting that site your just helping the hackers finding 1337 haxs

Last edited by Lonewolf (2005-12-10 14:38:17)

So, I suppose you create this thread after I was made of notice to you, no? Anyways, you would've found my reasoning for such a choice in playstyle within my initial reply for that thread about pompous, highly ranked folk. For your convenience, I will supply you with a link to the exact page this response can be found. If you have trouble reading it, go cry, and then go learn english.

Here - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=6997&p=2

JooProllySucksALot,
Kniero

Kniero wrote:

So, I suppose you create this thread after I was made of notice to you, no? Anyways, you would've found my reasoning for such a choice in playstyle within my initial reply for that thread about pompous, highly ranked folk. For your convenience, I will supply you with a link to the exact page this response can be found. If you have trouble reading it, go cry, and then go learn english.

Here - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=6997&p=2

JooProllySucksALot,
Kniero

I don't understand who or what this is directed to even after following the link.  Can anyone fill me in?

I have played Karkland more than any other. . . actualy over 2x as any other.

Kubra Dam 08:45:24
Mashtuur City 09:21:43
Strike at Karkand 27:54:07
Sharqi Peninsula 11:36:16
Dalian Plant 09:31:57
Songhua Stalemate 07:14:02
Wake Island 2007 06:50:33

These are the only maps I have over 5 hours on.  I tend to play urban maps, because I prefer them.  Often times (because I play late US times) the only well populated servers I can find are 24/7 Karkland servers.  I prefer Mastuur city, but it is rare to find a server running it.  A few servers run only city maps roations (thank you.) such as SFR.  These are the servers I am on most often if they have any one playing.